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Light Pollution And 'The End Of Night'

This program is rebroadcast from August 16, 2013.

A walk on the dark side with Paul Bogard, passionate critic of artificial light and author of “The End of Night.”

(John M. Cropper/Flickr)

(John M. Cropper/Flickr)

Evening falls, and then night, and we look up into that nighttime sky, in all its glory, and see… well, there was a time when we all saw a slew of stars and planets and galaxies. These days, many, most, are likely to look up and see reflected man-made light from street lights and gas stations, shopping centers and parking lots.  Blazing away.  Banishing the dark. We’ve lost the dark – the true dark – says my guest today, Paul Bogard.  And with it, true night.  And, he says, there are consequences. This hour, On Point:  our vanishing darkness and the end of night.

- Tom Ashbrook

Guest

Paul Bogard, author of “The End of Night: Searching for Natural Darkness in an Age of Artifical Light.” (@paulbogard)

From Tom’s Reading List

The Telegraph: The End Of Night by Paul Bogard, review – “Forget Brian Cox – Paul Bogard is the kind of guy I’d want to go star-gazing with. Driving out into the darkness of Nevada’s Black Rock Desert, Bogard’s gear includes a glow-in-the-dark Frisbee; in Death Valley National Park, the sight of Jupiter causes him to laugh out loud with joy.”

The Daily Beast: Is Light Pollution the Easiest Environmental Problem to Fix? – “Not so terribly long ago, people everywhere experienced nights so black that even the Milky Way could cast shadows on the earth. According to some estimates, around 80 percent of people now live under night skies so polluted by artificial light that they’ve never seen the Milky Way at all.”

National Geographic: With Light Pollution, Perseids Meteors Less Spectacular – “It’s important to remember that a night sky was accessible to everyone through human history, and now that’s gone. The night sky influenced art and science and religion for thousands of years—and it did something that we’re now cutting ourselves off from. The night sky is a resource that belongs to all of us.”

Excerpt: ‘The End of Night’

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  • sofiago

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  • AC

    i know this is off topic, but it’s sort of pollution related
    can you please cover the brilliant decision by congress to take money from leaking underground fuel tanks to float the hwy inf. needs (still not enough)? what is wrong with them? let’s see what pops up from this idea. if my child gets sick from polluted water thanks to not seeing to leaking fuel tanks AND i can’t get to a hospital because the roads are poop, can i sue congress for their irresponsibility? (i don’t have a child, just thinking about the worst case scenario here….)

    • Ray in VT

      I wonder if that would fall under sovereign immunity?

      • JGC

        Sorry Ray, now I am intruding on your space, but I tried to post a reply to sofiago below, and I got a Disqus post generated back to me “You cannot reply to a post that is not active.” What I was trying to write about the sofiago spam post was:

        OK this is bizarre. Spammer sofiago is getting a highlighted mention (for more spam!) at the bottom of my page, in the section “ALSO ON “ON POINT” under the Margaret Fuller hour.

        In tiny lettering, there is a Disqus link “What is this?”that reads “Disqus helps you find new and interesting content, discussion and products. Some sponsors and ecommerce sites may pay us for these recommendations and links. Learn more or give us feedback.”

        Here is my feedback: This sort of spamming seen posted on the formum and highlighted as “interesting” content and products is a bad turn for On Point and Disqus to be making. I thought this was just an intrusion made by one person, but it seems to be a new policy accepted by On Point and Disqus.

        Ok now, back to our regularly scheduled programming….

        • Ray in VT

          Bah, don’t worry about “intruding” on my space. JGC. That sort of spam is annoying.

        • Don_B1

          This is speculation, but I bet it is Disqus attempting to generate more revenue for itself, and On Point has to accept it or pay more for Disqus to provide the blog comment service. Sort of a “financialization” of the service.

          Maybe we could earmark some donations to On Point to allow them to reject this “money-raiser” for Disqus? Or, better, get On Point to set up a fund for this purpose.

    • Rick Evans

      “i know this is off topic,”

      So why post it?

      • AC

        the monitors read the comments so i’m hoping they do a show on it…
        the ‘pollution’ factor is a kind of tie-in, just really tangential..

        • Don_B1

          You easily could have missed it, but the moderator posted an e-mail address for such requests a couple weeks ago in response to a similar “off-topic” (but much more egregious!) post by [Dis]HonestDebate 1.

          Maybe he will repost it or a search of [D]HD1′s posts might lead you to it.

  • Michiganjf

    Could this be partially responsible for the astounding lack of curiosity evinced by so many today?

    So many people seem shockingly apathetic to anything except their immediate surroundings… there seems to be far more self-centeredness than I recall from years ago.

    I know social networking has been blamed for much of the narcissism these days, but there has to be more as to why people are so ignorant about the world and universe at large.

    When I was a kid, everyone seemed to have a much higher level of curiosity about the larger world, the universe, and just about everything that wasn’t at their fingertips… ahhh maybe that’s it!
    Maybe the internet has made people less curious, as the internet provides so much knowledge on an “as needed” basis.

    • brettearle

      Reflection and Self-Reflection are curious pastimes from a Bygone Era.

    • AnneDH

      ‘… curiosity about those things greater than oneself’ is well-put. This is what the night sky does for me, here in Vermont, where the sky is clear when the weather is.

      Also, memories of lying under the stars as a child come back to me now- what an experience to imprint at an early age!

      • brettearle

        Just about the only thing that comes close to a Vermont Night Sky is a Vermont Breakfast, of a Long Stack with pure syrup and hot liquid butter overflowing….

        You lucky son of a gun….

        • AnneDH

          Also the view of the hills, any season, but especially in the fall and spring.

          I do know how lucky I am and wouldn’t live anywhere else.

          • brettearle

            It’s not Fair!….

        • Don_B1

          That is one of the things I love about my annual vacation to northern Vermont (right now) north of Burlington in the middle of Grand Isle, where it is easy to identify more stars than the Big Dipper, and I can stock up on real maple syrup for the coming year.

          • brettearle

            Do you have to rub it in?

    • http://neilblanchard.blogspot.com/ Neil Blanchard

      I’m not sure that the Internet is contributing to this. I am sure that the general lack of seeing the stars contributes to an attitude of wonderment. And to our general lack of curiosity about the universe. Which leads to a lack of scientific inquiry. And it gives TV (and Internet) an unfair advantage – and to too much navel gazing …

  • jefe68

    I have light pollution right outside the bedroom window.
    The city of Boston has replaced the older duller street lights with ones that seem to be designed to keep people awake at night. They are extremely bright and just as annoying. Not to mention the weird blue light they give off. I think they are halogen, or very bright LED’s. Really awful things. And I’ve wondered what kind of effect they have on vegetables in the garden, as it’s almost daylight under them.

    • Beth

      Exactly. Your intuition about those lights is correct–they are posing public health risks since the blue wavelength blocks melatonin production in humans. Hoping public awareness on this issue spreads so we can solve this growing problem of night glow. Another related issue is widespread and increasing use of consumer electronics with LED screens at night–even if we eventually block out the blue spectrum of these night lamps using filters (which would turn them orangish/yellowish)–the other issue is people would still need blue-blocking screens for their smartphones/computers if they use them right before bed.

      • jefe68

        I have opaque curtains that block them out.
        I hate these lights. There use to be low level yellow lights and while they were also intrusive, less so when compared to the bright blue monstrosities.

      • Don_B1

        I have noticed that my watch stays illuminated (by fluorescence) when it has been near my laptop display as well (or better) than when I have been out in the sun, which used to be the only way the hands and dial numbers became illuminated in the dark.

        Clearly, that means that high-energy photons (higher frequencies, at least closer to the blue part of the spectrum, are the source of that illumination which is not available in required strengths from incandescent bulbs) are emitted by the LEDs used to illuminate electronic displays.

  • Arkuy The Great

    This is clearly an urban problem. Even where I live, in exurbia outside 128/95, a bright night sky cannot be found. Nevertheless, when I have gone camping recently in northern NH or upstate NY the sky has been bright as can be. My kids were able to see the “Milky Way” for the first time in their lives.

    I am not minimizing the light pollution issue but we have to realize it is a highly local matter.

    • http://neilblanchard.blogspot.com/ Neil Blanchard

      Even the remote areas in the lower 48 have some light pollution.

      My moment was on the south island in New Zealand, near the west end of the Heaphy Track, on the Heaphy River.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaphy_Track

      The Southern Hydra was a light cloud. I had to shout!

    • Rick Evans

      “This is clearly an urban problem.”

      I don’t think so.

      I travel to Harvard, MA to use a telescope and despite the town’s minimal street lighting in deference to a local observatory there is plenty of light pollution from neighboring towns.

      When I moved to greater Boston from NYC I could glimpse the Milky Way from Norwood 12 miles outside of Boston. Today it’s permanent twilight.

      In the ’70s I could drive 30 miles north of the Bronx to Purchase and easily see the Milky Way. Only a few years later it was yellowed out by garish sodium vapor emission.

      • TFRX

        I think that we’re dealing with a redefinition of “urban”.

        I’ve been living in New England suburbs my whole life, and the “infill” building of residences, retail, office and light (no pun intended) industrial is really filling in the square miles between what used to be separate places, or rural areas.

        (See “vanishing farmland” as well.)

    • Gary Welch

      “This is clearly an urban problem.”

      Even the most remote areas of the Grand Canyon still pick up light pollution from Las Vegas.

    • nj_v2

      http://geology.com/articles/satellite-photo-earth-at-night.shtml

      Satellite Photo of Earth at Night

      http://www.citiesatnight.org/

      One Earth at Night, under One Sky

      On this web site you can find one gallery of cities over the world at night. This gallery have been compiled to show how much we have changed the ecosystem of the night and also how the humanity looks from the Space.

      http://gizmodo.com/5928072/the-most-spectacular-night-view-of-earth-ever-captured-by-nasa

      The Most Spectacular Night View of Earth Ever Captured by NASA

    • Don_B1

      Try a map of artificial light on the earth:

      http://astronomy.santa-cruz.ca.us/node/9167

      and see how pervasive artificial light pollution is.

  • http://hlb-engineering.us/ HLB

    Most of my home, Alaska, is light-pollution free.* Otherwise no aurora: except for effects on power lines and high frequency communication systems.

    * Man-made lighting sources includes open fires and flares.

  • http://hlb-engineering.us/ HLB

    Thermal power plants + hydro + alternatives = Global Heating.
    Global Heating = sea level rise.
    Mean tide level UP = FL, DE, RI, Washington, D.C.* go under.
    Cities & States gone forever = a lot of light pollution disappears.
    Mother Nature applauds.

    * A lot of pointless & expensive hot air removed, as well.

    • Don_B1

      It is the burning of fossil fuels, carbon removed from the atmosphere over millennia, millions of years ago, which will take millennia to return to the earth but only if no more extra CO2 is put in the atmosphere, that is heating the atmosphere and changing climates across the earth. This is because the path to return this extra atmospheric carbon to the earth is not robust enough to achieve that return fast enough to keep the atmospheric CO2 at the levels that humans were able to develop the current civilization.

      But by burning sustainable fuels (biofuels, etc.) the quick regeneration of those fuels removes the CO2 that was released in burning them over a few years and there is no resulting buildup in the atmospheric level of CO2 and thus no increased warming of the planet.

  • adks12020

    I grew up in rural upstate New York and was a counselor at a camp in the Adirondack High Peaks in high school. We took multiday backpacking trips with kids from near the city for the most part. Their awe and amazement at how many stars are actually in the sky blew my mind. Something I was so used to was completely foreign to them. Some of them never remembered seeing more than a star or two at night.

  • AC

    to be honest, i’m more annoyed with noise. but this is very interesting

    • Arkuy The Great

      Yes!! Every city in which I have ever spent any overnight time has that distinctive “roar”, even through a backyard window.

    • S David H de Lorge

      I decided to redefine the nonstop roar of my adjacent arterial street. How would it be to live near Niagra Falls, I told myself, or by any really rapid river, or the constantly crashing surf, or even a ceaselessly windy prairie.

      It finally came to pretty much work for me, and I can still hear the nearby birds – although the full neighborhood chorus is long since drowned out.

  • sr

    A few years back we vacationed on the Outer Banks of N. Carolina and we were stunned by the stars we could see when it got dark. Surrounded by ocean, it was so much darker than we ever experrienced at home. We spent every single night out on the patio just drinking in the stars that were so clear and close we felt we might touch them. It was one of the most memorable experiences of my life.

  • AnneDH

    Many years ago I went to Crete and was astounded by the number of stars I could see at night there. The sky was absolutely crowded with them.

    Being in a dry climate makes a big difference.

    • Don_B1

      Even that depends on other aspects of the location. Where the land becomes dry and wind can pick up small particles, as in the Sahara Desert, the particles can rise up and produce a haze. Particles from the Sahara are carried all the way to South America, along with microbes which ride on them.

  • JB

    On my first visit to Martha’s Vineyard I commented to a friend how cloudy the sky always seemed to be at night, at which point she pointed out that the “clouds” I was referring to were in fact the Milky Way.

  • Susan

    The only place I can still see the stars is in Maine. When I saw them again after living in the Boston area for years without them, I felt like I was reunited with wonderful friends.

  • cof

    I have a friend that lives on a farm in the upper reaches of rural Vermont and the one time I visited him I was in awe of the view of the sky. It so moved me and I realized that it’s no wonder that the human race is loosing touch with their interconnectedness with nature if we are deprived of that view. I believe it should be a human right. I believe our primal selves yearns to see the universe. Being blinded by the perpetual light of our times is like being in a prisoner with a perpetual light on in our cell.

  • SuziVt

    I live in Vermont & I can often see the glow from our nearest town, but usually, on a clear night, our sky is so full of stars, it seems there are more stars than space around them. We lived here for something like 6 years without electricity. We were so appreciative of a star filled sky & were always well aware of the stages of the moon. With a baby, it was very beneficial to have moonlight when attending to him in the middle of the night. Whereas before we moved here, we never noticed the stages of the moon or a clear night. One night we stood outside & watched the northern lights & it looked like robed men & women marching around a huge arc in the north. We finally had to go in from the cold & go to bed. We appreciate the dark & the light. Our closest neighbor is a half mile away, we love the serenity.

    • Don_B1

      I spend a couple weeks in Vermont on Grand Isle in the middle of Lake Champlain, and the sky is fantastic on a clear night, but the lights from Plattsburgh are distinctly noticeable.

  • Megan

    I saw the Milky Way for the first time last year at McDonald Observatory in west Texas, which is facing it’s own issues of light pollution. Since then my boyfriend and I wake up between 1-3 AM when camping to try to catch a glimpse of the beautiful night sky. We have only been fortunate one other time in Central Texas at Colorado Bend State Park. It was so breathtakingly beautiful it changed my world view. We currently live in my home town of Austin, which you can see glowing throughout places in the hill country. We live across the street from a Ross store with security lights so high and bright you can see them over our roof line.

    • Don_B1

      Are you aware of the StarDate notes broadcast on many NPR stations and the magazine, which originate at the University of Austin, but use information from the McDonald Observatory? See:

      http://stardate.org/

      Also, http://earthsky.org/ is a great site for astronomical and other science news.

  • Deborah Hilscher

    I live in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula and am fortunate enough to live on the Keweenaw Peninsula where we are surrounded by Lake Superior. Yes, there’s light pollution to a very small extent but for the most part we are able to see, and I mean really see the night sky, including the magnificent Aurora Borealis when they are active. I grew up in rural North Carolina where the night sky was lit up like a fireworks factory but lived in lower Michigan between Detroit and Ann Arbor for most of my early adult life where stars are few and far between. Moving to the U.P. gave me the night sky back and I’ll never live anywhere else!

  • Gary Welch

    Just curious here – do the street lights that cut off light and direct it downwards reduce the amount of light pollution, or do they just change the light from point source to diffuse?

    • Don_B1

      They actually do cut the amount of light pollution, and the amount of energy needed to give the same illumination to the ground area. By sending (almost, in well-designed fixtures) all the light generated to the desired target, the total light emitted can be less to achieve the same ends.

  • Deborah Hilscher

    Send the caller from Illinois here……. Pure Michigan!

    Prestigious International Dark Sky Park designation has been awarded to
    Emmet County’s Headlands property, a 600-acre thickly forested gem
    situated along the clear blue expanse of Lake Michigan just west of
    Mackinaw City.

  • skelly74

    I have seen the milky way camping at the south rim of the Grand Canyon as well as camping in the Bahamas…amazing.

    If you have access to a boat, you can go out far enough away from the light as well.

  • Jim_thompson

    Great program-as usual. Regarding your question on gas lights earlier Tom, not everyone was thrilled with the use of gas lights. Although it took him years and he had to fight the powers that be-something he would do throughout his career-Dr. Milton Helpern Medical Examiner of NYC at the turn of the century proved that gas lights were killing people at alarming rates through carbon monoxide poisoning. Actually cleared murder suspects when he showed it was the gas lighting that killed victims.

  • Peg Kennedy

    The name of the fungus that the recent caller described is Foxfire. So common in the woods – but you need darkness to see it. I came in late to this segment – How much does all this lighting pollution cost us? – in real dollars and in carbon pollution? I live in rural upstate NY so I get to see the night sky – but I was totally disgusted several years ago on a flight across the US at night – there was NEVER a moment when I couldn’t see the lights of some city leading our way across the whole country.

  • Leonard Bast

    “It’s lovely to live on a raft. We had the sky up there, all speckled with stars, and we used to lay on our backs and look up at them, and discuss about whether they was made or only just happened.”
    ― Mark Twain, Huckleberry Finn

  • http://neilblanchard.blogspot.com/ Neil Blanchard

    LEDs are full cutoff lighting – they light the ground (better than our current lights) but they do not shine upward. So, we save a lot of energy – and money – and we regain some of the night sky.

  • Joe

    Our neighborhood here in Vero Beach FL has pockets of
    lights. Our street mostly low light. Half the street a block away is as we call
    it “Ghetto Light area” we avoid it, hurts the eyes. But it is just a pocket as
    if one neighbor turns up the lights and the rest feel they need to also.J

  • JGC

    In the newer developments, the developers are installing vastly more exterior night lighting than necessary on their McMansions. These neighborhoods remind me more of Times Square and the Vegas strip, than some sort of safety or mood lighting.

  • keruffle

    Bright night
    Sad sight
    Far scars
    Mars stars
    White glare
    Nightmare
    We toss
    World turns
    Sky lost
    Cities burn

    @keruffle

  • Duxyak

    In mid-Atlantic, standing night watch at the helm delivering a ketch to the Caribbean, with a glowing red binnacle light and our running lights as the only artificial dots under a magnificent dome of hundreds of visible stars–unforgettable. And to think that most humans enjoyed that celestial splendor as a matter of course for countless millennia…..

  • S David H de Lorge

    For awhile there, I thought my night vision must be getting better with experience. Eventually it dawned on me that effortfully reading a newspaper by the clear light of the full moon is not the same as walking around the garden without stumbling because the whole sky was aglow with the scattered residue of the electric lighting everywhere for miles around.

    One time, while turning my compost heap during the night, I was surprised to find glowing filaments in the middle, visible so to speak in the shadow provided by overhanging bushes as well as the dark compost itself. No doubt bioluminescent fungi as reported in his lawn by a caller.

    High mountains, or far desert and high plains locations, still permit breathtaking visibility of the Milky Way – at least last I saw. As awe inspiring revelation in its transition from “normal” as anything I remember from decades ago. I do know aging neighbors who still visualize overflying satellites, including the Intl Space Station, with unassisted eyes.

    I also know of the meaning of melatonin suppression, and wonder what ill effects will yet come to light.

    Finally, however, in the air pollution basin in which I live, auto emission control and other cleanup have made a few of those less bright stars below and opposite Orion visible near the horizon. When I was here forty years ago, I never saw them. That’s something, right?

  • HonestDebate1

    I don’t know, pollution just doesn’t seem to be the right word. Toxic fumes in my living room or in my yard are pollution. In my living room I like bright light so it’s not pollution there. No point really, just nit-picking. I guess I’m lucky, where I live there is zero light insert term here.

    • jefe68

      Pollution can be noise, light or emissions.
      Or, inane comments on forums…

    • Don_B1

      From Wikipedia:

      Pollution is the introduction of contaminants into the natural environment that cause adverse change.[Merriam-Webster] Pollution can take the form of chemical substances or energy, such as noise, heat or light. Pollutants, the components of pollution, can be either foreign substances/energies or naturally occurring contaminants. Pollution is often classed as point source or nonpoint source pollution.

      But then you are notorious for having your own dictionary with little resemblance to any other one.

      • HonestDebate1

        You don’t have to agree, I was just giving my opinion.

        • jefe68

          And you say it’s not about you…

    • nj_v2

      More deep thinking we’ve come to expect from this word-pollution-spewing handle.

      • harverdphd

        Bubblehead stalker strikes again….

        • jefe68

          Troll stalker strikes again.

    • laurabien

      I see your point; it is not the most precise word to describe the phenomenon. Hmm. De-adumbration. Contrast decay. Something like that…

  • Don_B1

    One of the reasons is probably that these LEDs are cheaper to manufacture, in much the same way that warm-white (2700K) bulbs are more expensive than “cool white” (4000K and up) with 3000K bulbs often a “happy medium.”

    I was a bit surprised to learn these bulbs so approximate “full spectrum” as they might thus be marketed as “grow lamps” for growing plants, which have traditionally been more expensive LEDs. Maybe it is the shape of the spectrums of the various LEDs and how well they match the spectrum of sunlight.

    I will be interested in reading the Harvard health link.

  • jimino

    It’s a little late to make plans to see the night sky in a real dark place with some expert guidance, but if you’re in the neighborhood check out:

    http://www.nebraskastarparty.org/

  • cdalpra

    I am relatively young for this conversation (28), but I am lucky to understand the value of the night sky. My favorite memories are while climbing Chimborazo at about 17,000 ft. in Ecuador 2004, I was in awe looking at a very clear Milky Way and Southern Cross. I just stood and stared for a while driving my climbing partners nuts as they wanted to climb fast. Second, Chaco Canyon in New Mexico is an outstanding place to view the nights sky. No towns around for many miles.

  • tbphkm33

    I was thinking along the same lines – I have sailed across the Atlantic close to the equator and camped on the ice in the Arctic, at both locations you lay down and feel like you are being absorbed by the universe. Of course, the absence of light in the Arctic winter is an experience in its own right.

  • Jim Honeycutt

    On a trip to Belize a few years ago I went, before dark, to a restaurant far from any town. On leaving for our car after dark I was stunned at how dark it was. I looked up and saw more stars than I had ever seen. I stopped, my mouth dropped open and I stood amazed at the spectacle.

  • Allison

    I adore this poem!

    • shirley pulido

      Thanks Allison, I’m glad. Perhaps you are a poet..your comment above had that about it!

  • harverdphd

    This discussion is DOA. Localities (taxpayers) get sued for poor lighting. Get over it.

    • jefe68

      What is wrong with you?

    • Don_B1

      If you actually listened, you would have heard Mr. Bogard say that reducing light pollution does NOT mean reduced protection against “crime,” but better use of the light and reduced cost. What is not to like?

      But you seem to be for the demonstration of excess wealth through profligate spending.

  • Allison

    I remember the stars. As a child growing up in Ojai, California, there would be such an overwhelming sparkle and sense of the infinite. Dizzying to look up. A strange kinship with all the gazers who came before me. I was taught the names and shapes of constellations and took pride in their familiarity. Add to this the night air, sounds, and critters… God it was good to be young!

  • oregon_man

    Off topic a little: can anyone tell me the artist that played the bumper music with high scratchy voice and acoustic guitar?

    • Salvor Hardin

      I posted some additional comments below in reply to James. But the 3 songs I picked up clicking through the Aug 16, 2013 broadcast are:

      Pink Moon by Nick Drake
      Night Falls On Hoboken by Yo La Tengo
      Stars by Grace Potter & the Nocturnals

      Could have missed one since I didn’t want to play back the entire broadcast. He announced the songs in this case but it is pretty quick so they are easy to miss. I use the Soundhound app on my phone to identify the song and it keeps a log of the songs if I want to try to buy it later.

  • oregon_man

    LOL I asked same question and then scrolled down. I’ve heard that before but don’t know the artist.

  • oregon_man

    I found the On Point web page for bumper music which pretty much explains they don’t have the time to list it and they turned off comments because they are tired of having listeners ask about bumper music every show.

  • Salvor Hardin

    Tom said that the first song was Pink Moon by Nick Drake. You can go to the original Aug 16, 2013 and play it back if you didn’t catch it. You can also use an app like Soundhound or Shazam on your phone to give you the song name/artist if he doesn’t specify it and it is a song in their database. The most used app on my phone other than email is probably Soundhound. I don’t know what I ever did without it. Let me know if that wasn’t the one you were looking for.

  • Angela Michelle

    I was just up at my cabin on a rural mountain in North Idaho and noticed that I couldn’t see as many stars and details as I used to. I was really saddened by this and said to myself, “Ugh… the light from the cities has finally made it’s way up here.” Living in Spokane, a large city in Washington State, there is always a pinkish purple haze covering the night sky and it always look overcast unless you really go out and stare up… Even then, you only see a few of the brightest stars peeping out… I always go to my cabin excited to look at the beautiful night sky that I miss in Spokane…. It’s depressing to know that it’s finally been reached by the damn city lights.

  • anadmckinney

    just before I looked at the receipt ov $8130 , I
    didn’t believe that my sister woz like actualy bringing in money part-time from
    there pretty old laptop. . there aunts neighbour has been doing this 4 only
    about 22 months and at present repayed the mortgage on their appartment and
    bought themselves a Chrysler . see here C­a­s­h­f­i­g­.­C­O­M­

  • Don_B1

    You and your neighbors might want to petition the ski area that it could save money by replacing its lighting fixtures with new ones that direct the light down onto the ski trails rather than the near omnidirectional illumination of “traditional” light fixtures, and using LEDs would also solve the frequent replacement of burned out bulbs and that cost. Since ski areas have been suffering a drop in revenue with the warmer weather cutting the way snow lasts they might be receptive. The one good thing about climate change, at least in the Northeast, is the increased amount of precipitation that more water vapor (up some 4% since 1970) means and the way the upper circulation patterns are changing (due at least in part to Global Warming) so that when the temperatures are in the required range, more snow may be the result. But the warmer weather (except when Global Warming encourages Arctic Vortexes) will shorten its retention.

  • laurabien

    A lovely episode. I loved hearing all of the remembrances of the night sky in the 1960s, though I am sad that is now gone. Thank you for this show, Mr. Ashbrook.

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From "Rich Hill"

“Rich Hill,” a new documentary on growing up poor, now, in rural America. The dreams and the desperation.

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This Monday, Sept. 27, 2010 file photo shows hikers on the South Kaibab Trail in Grand Canyon National Park, Ariz. (AP/Carson Walker)

Uproar over development plans for the Grand Canyon. We go to the Navajo Nation and the Canyon floor to see what’s at stake.

 
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In this Thursday, Sep. 11, 2014 photo, Middle Eastern leaders stand together during a family photo with of the Gulf Cooperation Council and regional partners at King Abdulaziz International Airport’s Royal Terminal in Jiddah, Saudi Arabia. (AP/Brendan Smialowski, Pool)

President Obama says he will build a coalition of partners in the Middle East to combat ISIS. We’ll do a reality check on who’s really stepping up for what.

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Our Week In The Web: September 12, 2014
Friday, Sep 12, 2014

In which you had varied reactions to the prospect of a robotic spouse.

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Beverly Gooden on #WhyIStayed
Friday, Sep 12, 2014

Beverly Gooden — who originated the #WhyIStayed hashtag that has taken off across Twitter — joined us today for our discussion on domestic violence.

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Tierney Sutton Plays LIVE For On Point
Friday, Sep 5, 2014

We break out Tierney Sutton’s three beautiful live tracks from our broadcast today for your listening pleasure.

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