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Colorado's Six Months Of Legal Pot

Six months after recreational marijuana got the green light in  Colorado, we look at the economic, social, and health impacts of embracing pot.

A customer pays cash for retail marijuana at 3D Cannabis Center, in Denver, Thursday, May 8, 2014. (AP)

A customer pays cash for retail marijuana at 3D Cannabis Center, in Denver, Thursday, May 8, 2014. (AP)

Six months ago tomorrow, Colorado became the first state in the Union to legalize recreational marijuana.  It’s been an eye-popping half year.  First all the “Rocky Mountain high” jokes.  Then the reality.  Nearly $200 million in pot sales.  Stores and factories churning out pot, pot candy, pot soda.  Nearly 10,000 Coloradans working in the marijuana business.  The Colorado Symphony Orchestra announcing “weed concerts.”  Kids getting sick on their parents’ pot gummy bears.  A couple of deaths.  And lots of new insights. This hour On Point:  What Colorado has learned about legalized pot.

– Tom Ashbrook

Guests

Ricardo Baca, Marijuana editor at the Denver Post. (@bruvs)

Alicia Caldwell, member of the Denver Post’s editorial board. (@AliciaMCaldwell)

Bill Masters, sheriff of San Miguel County, Colorado. (@sheriffmasters)

Dr. Richard Zane, chair of the department of emergency medicine at University of Colorado Hospital.

From Tom’s Reading List

The Cannabist: $202 million in pot sales?! (And 9 other facts from 6 months into 2014) – “Here are the absolutes, the facts, the hard numbers we know after the first six months of legal recreational cannabis sales in the modern world. Some of these numbers, including tax revenues, mean something tangible and allow us to plan for the future. Some of these numbers, like crime stats, are interesting but incomplete, given the many factors that contribute to citywide crime.”

New York Times: After 5 Months of Sales, Colorado Sees the Downside of a Legal High – “Five months after Colorado became the first state to allow recreational marijuana sales, the battle over legalization is still raging. Law enforcement officers in Colorado and neighboring states, emergency room doctors and legalization opponents increasingly are highlighting a series of recent problems as cautionary lessons for other states flirting with loosening marijuana laws.”

Slate: Yes, We Cannabis — “Voters in Alaska and possibly Oregon will decide this November whether their states will join Colorado and Washington in legalizing the commercial sale and recreational use of pot. Similar initiatives are at varying stages in more than a half-dozen other states—Nevada, Arizona, and California among them—where advocates are looking toward 2016, when they hope the presidential election will turn out enough liberals to push those efforts across the finish line. All told, more than 1 in 5 Americans live in states where marijuana use has a legitimate chance to become legal between now and when President Obama leaves office.”

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  • Matt MC

    I’m sorry, but if you go to the emergency room for smoking too much pot or eating a cookie, you’re an idiot. You can’t die from smoking pot, nor can anything bad happen to you from smoking pot. You’re just really, really high.

    • HonestDebate1

      Maureen Dowd had a bad trip.

      • Matt MC

        lol… yes she did…

      • Jeff

        She’s an idiot…I read that article, it was laughable…the idea that someone who was high wouldn’t be able to get to the door to get food, right then and there I knew it was propaganda…if someone is high they are going to get to food that’s just a law of nature.

        • Charles

          Took the words out of my mouth.
          She was giving her readers what they wanted to read.

      • 65noname

        maureen dowd IS a bad trip.

    • TFRX

      Maureen Dowd has been working on the 16th minute of her 15 minutes of being taken seriously for a dozen years now.

      However, if it’ll keep Modo from another off-track bitchfest aimed at Hillary, I’ll contribute to keep Dowd half-baked.

    • geraldfnord

      I think that ‘idiot’ were too strong a term, given the delayed effects of edible pot, the lack of good potency labelling in many cases, the inexperience of some people, and the uproariously funny variation in cannabinoid metabolysm by the liver—some people get no effect at all the first time, others get too much.

      Note: I’m also in favour of cutting first-time drinkers some slack: there’s no good way to understand what ‘drunk’ feels like and what coping effectively with it entails until you actually experience it.

  • John Cedar

    Pot is illegal everywhere in the United State, including Colorado.
    Pot being illegal, “is the law of the land”, to borrow phrase.

    • OrangeGina

      you’re a real downer, man.

    • Godzilla the Intellectual

      Then how do you explain the grocery stores where all they sell are edibles, gourmet snack foods and chocolates that contain THC oil and marijuana.

      http://www.ganja-gourmet.com/

      http://incrediblescolorado.com/?age-verified=0880275096

      http://dixieelixirs.com/

      According to the Denver Post’s Cannabist, members of the Williams family, who own Medicine Man in northeast Denver, are embarking on a $2.6 million expansion including a 20,000-square-foot retail space “all in white like an Apple store.”

      Medicine Man opened in 2010 and quickly became one the state’s largest dispensaries of medical marijuana. According to the Cannabist, the company was the first to apply for a license to distribute recreational marijuana. On Jan. 1 — the first day retail pot sales opened — the store sold 15 pounds of marijuana, taking in close to $100,000. More than 600 customers came through Medicine Man’s doors.

      • Benjamin Greenberg

        John is right, it is illegal, under federal law.

        However, Colorado has created state laws, allowing for use and distribution, which means that the state will not view it as illegal, and therefore will not prosecute people. However, that being said, the feds could come in and charge people under federal laws…

        That is the explanation.

        But I also agree with OrangeGina, John is a downer!

        • Godzilla the Intellectual

          Yet, attorney general Eric Holder AND president Obama have stated unequivocally they will not pursue federal cases… “de-prioritized”.

          • Benjamin Greenberg

            Which is good for Colorado, and the rest of the states that choose to go the same way…

            I was simply stating that it was still illegal, through the Feds eyes, even if “de-prioritized”.

    • geraldfnord

      Alcohol prohibition was nearly a ‘dead letter’ in New York State and Maryland once they didn’t coöperate in enforcing it.

    • James

      Not for long, there is bipartisan support in Congress to past legislation that will keep the DEA from meddling in states that legalize pot.

      • John Cedar

        The future will bring what the future will bring, I am talking about the erroneous headline used in this segment to describe the present.

        The justice department is supposed to be concerned with enforcing federal laws. That would not be “meddling”.

        Legalized drugs is the one and only time democrats come out in favor of State’s rights and agree with what the rest of us have said all along, that big centralized government is a bad thing.

  • HonestDebate1

    I played music for a private party in the mountains Friday night. It was at a very ritzy country clip and there had to be at least $100 million in combined net worth in the audience. When we were done an elegant, dressed to the nines, older woman approached us and said, “I have $50, who has a joint?”

    No point really.

    • twenty_niner

      $50.00? What’s the going rate for a joint?

      • adks12020

        Sure as heck isn’t $50. Should be able to get several quite large joints for that.

        • HonestDebate1

          I don’t think the $50 meant that much to her. You know what they say: Pot will get you through times with no money better than money will get you through times with no pot.

          • geraldfnord

            `I’ll get you for that, Fat Freddie. ‘

            Read carefully, the Freak Brothers worked really well as honest anti-drug propaganda—well, anti-[stupid-use-of-]drugs propaganda….

      • HonestDebate1

        I’m pretty sure it’s less than that. Unfortunately we couldn’t help her.

  • Godzilla the Intellectual
  • Godzilla the Intellectual

    If I had the capital, I would open an edibles business in colorado in a heartbeat.

    And to be clear, I am what they call a “straight edge”.

    • geraldfnord

      I’m not sure that’s true: unless taxes get so high as to preserve the ‘black market’ with its attendant evils, the price will go down to the extent that the revenues will diminish significantly.

      And, I must admit, I’m innately sceptical that any single major problem can be solved at one blow, let alone four. Improved, yes, but not solved.

      Thank-you for your support despite your abstinence: it’s significant for its lack of self-interest.

      • Godzilla the Intellectual

        With a NATIONAL sales tax, significantly improved.

  • Godzilla the Intellectual

    The reality is, our education system, medicare, social security and foreign policy toward south american immigration could ALL be fixed if ALL drugs were legalized and taxed…

    Anyone NOT willing to do that is responsible for the results of inaction if we don’t.

  • John_in_Amherst

    Facts remain facts, regardless of the spin. Just last week the NYT ran an article detailing how alcohol is responsible for 10% of all deaths of working adults. Alcohol fuels aggression, antisocial behavior, marital discord, addiction, psychosis and accidents. The article from the NYT cited in the run-up to this show mentions stats from Colorado, where hundreds of thousands of people now have legal access to pot. It mentions kids and adults going to the ER after eating too much marijuana candy, and a murder, committed in conjunction with (NOT necessarily because of) a psychotic episode in which the perpetrator consumed an excessive amount of edible marijuana. Opponents of pot are correct: it is not a totally harmless diversion. Proponents are also correct: when compared to alcohol, pot is relatively benign. They are also correct in citing that thousands of live that would have been ruined by prosecution for pot possession have not been, and hundreds of millions of dollars that would have gone toward interdiction, prosecution and incarceration are now available for other more pressing needs. And it is hard to ignore that violent crime has decreased in Colorado since legalization.

    One of the great ironies of the legalization of pot is that people now increasingly try eating pot instead of smoking. Smoking pot in large amounts has a positive association with emphysema and bronchitis, but an INVERSE association with lung cancer (the more smoked, the lower the incidence). Smoking, though not harmless, offers several advantages over eating pot. Foremost is that it allows the user to quickly gauge how much they have consumed. The high from smoking comes on in minutes. Eating pot, on the iother hand, requires hours before the THC ingested is felt, which opens the door to the souce of many of the copmplaints now arising around pot: people, especially novice users, often consume more than intended by eating the herb rather than smoking it.

    Another critique of the burgeoning pot trade is that pot is now getting stronger through breeding for potency. This is undoubtedly true, but users who used to smoke a joint now realize they can get the high they seek with a puff or two, thereby curtailing the risk of bronchial irritation encountered with less potent forms.

    Pot culture is entering a new phase, in which millions are now experiencing the drug in more open settings and social situations. This is an evolutionary process. Norms and rituals around use are still being established. I recently visited Jamaica. It is hard to overestimate how much cannabis is being consumed there, by all classes of people. One of the key apsects that differentiates how pot is smoked there is that with it being so common, people tend not to pass a joint around. People in groups light up their own joints or pipe, take a puff or two, and let the thing go out. Half-smoked joints litter the ground. People in this scenario have much more control over consumption – they are not “egged on” by the person in the group with the highest tolerance for THC. (In Britain, a similar strategy is used to curb excessive drinking – people with alcohol problems are encouraged to NOT go to a pub and get into “buying rounds” for a circle of people, as this often leads to a “last man standing” situation).

    Pot is not totally benign. Nor is it the “reefer madness” scourge opponents portray. It is a diversion, which some will use to excess, and many more will use without serious consequences. Pot prohibition in the US arose largely from the efforts of Harry Anslinger, a federal alcohol enforcer in the thirties who found himself out of work when alcohol prohibition ended. It is time to stop spurious claims on both sides of this argument and move on to a more responsible, rational approach to legalized cannabis.

    • geraldfnord

      Thank-you for saving me the trouble of writing the above yet again; there are times when the gushing of the people with whom I basically agree bothers me more than the condemnatiin of the other side…though mine is much less likely to result in young lives’ being ruined, marijuana for all its faults being less dangerous than prison.

  • joe

    The only thing I fear about legal pot is that it will not spread to Mississippi fast enough this state is the last for everything good and the first for everything bad …People do not want to be criminals just for choosing a different stimulant then our fathers did .

    • geraldfnord

      I agree with the sentiment, but urge people to reserve ‘stimulant’ for caffeine, amphetamines, and the like, despite the history of the incorrect use of the term forthe depressant/disinhibitor alcohol. Marijuana can be variously described as an anxiolytic, an euphoriant, a tranquiliser, a mild hallucinogen in overdose, and (with the right cannabinoid profile) an anti-inflammatory.

  • Locomotion

    A~re there any websites where an out of stater can order a home supply legally?

    • joe

      No transporting across state lines is illegal.

  • James

    Are there any statistics on how legalization has effected crime rates.

    • joe

      it has been 4 months ..but Id bet that since there are less criminal scumbags in the cells and more consumers on the streets it would go down .

    • John_in_Amherst

      from the NYT piece cited above:
      “Marijuana supporters note that violent crimes in Denver — where the bulk
      of Colorado’s pot retailers are — are down so far this year. The number
      of robberies from January through April fell by 4.8 percent from the
      same time in 2013, and assaults were down by 3.7 percent. Over all,
      crime in Denver is down by about 10 percent, though it is impossible to
      say whether changes to marijuana laws played any role in that decline.”

      • 65noname

        hey, when right wing prohibitionists co-mingle rising crime stats with rising drug use stats the media and the government never requires them to prove cause and effect. so I give full credit to the liegalization of grass for the drop in denver’s crime stats..

  • M S

    It’s funny all of these bubblegumers not knowing the high from an edible is completely different than smoking a j. The metabolites from an edible is way more intense and psychedelic. Colorado needs a public education campaign.

    • Godzilla the Intellectual

  • J__o__h__n

    I don’t care if people smoke pot or not as long as it is restricted like cigarette smoke. I don’t want to breathe it.

    • joe

      At least pot has edibles … every way of consuming tobaccos is gross ..spitting nasty stinky stuff in a cup or blowing obnoxious smoke all over the room …

  • creaker

    gummy bears? you mean like all kind of vitamins currently on the market?

  • geraldfnord

    Has anyone devised a good test for marijuana intoxication? Cannabinoid metabolite levels in the blood don’t seem to correlate well with it: you can possibly pass a urine test five minutes after intense smoking, and fail it days later when you’re unimpaired….

    • Martin Holsinger

      There can be no ironclad chemical test for “intoxication” because more experienced users are better able to navigate than newbies, and can be perfectly fine driving a car at a dose that would incapacitate a first-time user.

      • John Cedar

        Functioning alcoholics have a similar ability to drive well with higher BAC readings.

        • Martin Holsinger

          Some drunks may be passable drivers, but I think there’s a big difference….sorry for not being able to give you a link for this, but both the National Transportation Safety Board and its Dutch equivalent have concluded that typical marijuana use creates a negligible level of “impairment” that is commonly well-compensated for by the driver’s awareness of his condition, and that in fact there are numerous prescription medications that interfere much more seriously with a person’s ability to drive a car. Nobody is testing for those, let alone restricting the driving rights of those under their influence.

          In my opinion, the elephant in the room of substances that impair driving ability is caffeine, which causes people to be short-tempered, in a hurry, and overconfident in their own competence. I’m guessing that well over 90% of all drivers involved in accidents would test positive for caffeine. Where’s the push for prohibition?

  • joe

    Kids can get into anything and hurt themselves and someone around them a gun in the house a knife a lighter can all kill and maim … it s the duty of the parent to put these things away out of reach ..and the duty of the parent to educate the child for the situation..

    • Godzilla the Intellectual

      Agreed.

      Problem is… Statistically, many parents aren’t doing their duty. And it breaks my heart.

  • hennorama

    It seems to me that Dr. Zane has given some excellent marketing feedback to CO’s marijuana marketers: instead of selling edibles that contain multiple doses per unit, decrease the dosage to one per unit. Sell a “six-pack” of cookies, each containing a single dose, for example, rather than one cookie containing six doses.

    • DeJay79

      just like Chef Ramsay would say about people leaving with a to- go box. “you just losing money right out the door”

      • hennorama

        DeJay — thank you for your response.

        Indeed, portion control is very important in the restaurant industry.

        But the OD issue with edibles seems to have a simple fix: one dose per unit. Newbies can start off slowly, and more experienced users will know their tolerance, and can consume more if they like.

  • geraldfnord

    I’m concerned about over-use in vapourisation, especially by people who are used to smoking, since they will have learned to gauge dosage using the attendant irritation of the smoke, which also slows consumption down.

    Add that to the incredible cannabinoid profile distortion induced by marijuana prohibition, and I will be very reasonable in proceeding with caution once it becomes legal.

    • joe

      I would look at it like this alot of people drink ..now and then … then they go on vacation and get plastered and do things they regret..overuse can happen with anything …

      • Godzilla the Intellectual

        But what gerald is referring to is the chemicals in marijuana strains can vary widely both in potency and profile.

        Proper testing using a mass spectrometer needs to be part of the regulation.

        • geraldfnord

          Failing that, you can keep faute de mieux a rabbit and see how much of an extract dripped on one of its ears it takes to make it droop, the only assay method of which I know extant, pre-Mechoulam.

          A littl cruel, I’ll admit, but also absolutely hilarious in its simultaneous primitism and cleverness.

          • Godzilla the Intellectual

            LOL>

            Or you can book a cruise with sea sick radical faeries and get drunk on Absinthe.

  • joe

    You are only seeing the illegal use becoming legal Dr Zane this is not a spreading of a new thing this is the legalization of a very very old thing..

  • James

    It’s in part my own ignorance on the topic, but it seems kind of stupid to have too much THC in a candy bar that you otherwise would eat fairly quickly.
    It seems like that was a product of a bygone era where you gotta hide what you can get.

    Shouldn’t you be able to dilute the THC to a point where it makes sense to eat like a pot candy bar like a regular candy bar?

    • Godzilla the Intellectual

      The same could be said for nutrasweet and sugar, etc.

    • joe

      I think the point is different people have different tolerances ..for one person half a candybar may be fine for another just a bite will do…so it is hard to put a potency or effect label on them .So like taking most medications 5 mg might be fine for one person and 10 mg will be better for another ..Maybe they should have a person to reccomend a dosage in the stores.

    • geraldfnord

      Yes, prohibition is the gift that keeps on giving.

  • AC

    i don’t understand the interest in pot. it’s so boring….

    • OrangeGina

      I feel the same way about alcohol . . . different strokes for different folks!

      • AC

        alcohol is another one. i don’t get it!!!

        • HonestDebate1

          Crack?

          • AC

            lol. honestly, i’m afraid of drugs given my health issues, but i have always thought the drugs that make you hyper are prob the best. i would love unlimited energy!! but they also seem to have the WORST side effects….

          • geraldfnord

            Nice of you to offer, but no thanks, I’m good (or at least chaotic neutral).

        • skelly74

          People drink alcohol and smoke pot so they can’t feel their feelings anymore It’s just the same as Prozac or some other tranquilizer.

    • geraldfnord

      One benefit of legalisation might ge that some of us will shut up about it.

    • MrBigStuff

      I know! The real conversation should be about the legalization of heroin, PCP and cocaine.

  • OrangeGina

    hehehe, she said “hits”.

  • Godzilla the Intellectual

    The truth is the Feds are surprised at how much revenue Colorado has brought in from the six months of legal pot.

  • DeJay79

    Dose control is difficult because everybody is effected differently and many people require much more or less thc to get the same effect.

    • Sy2502

      That’s the same with alcohol. Or coffee. The only way to know is to try and figure it out. There are smart ways of doing that, and stupid ways.

  • johnhaskell

    How can you sell a candy bar with 10 doses? How many doses of various over the counter drugs are sold in a single pack? How many servings in a 1.75L of hard alcohol?

    It’s pot, so criticism changes. There is less doctor and more parent in the guest.

    • joe

      Exactly if you sit down with a bottle and some friends or whatever your not looking at a serving size your looking for your point of satisfaction..

    • creaker

      Look at normal food and see what they specify for servings – I like the ones that are like “approx. 5 chips”.

    • geraldfnord

      The candy bar looks too much like something people already are _used_ to eating at one go; personal and social knowledge is enough that (for example) even alcohol-abusing Russians typically know that fewer than three men per bottle of vodka were a bad idea…and I haven’t seen a scene in a movie or a T.V. show in which taking an entire bottle of pills were presented as a great idea, as opposed to being the marker of being out-of-control and/or suicidal.

  • hennorama

    The hash oil fire idiots sound like an episode of Baking Bad.

    • geraldfnord

      Even when done correctly in all but the most careful ways, including total recovery and isolation of the purest butane most people can buy, this is a bad idea. As much as I risk stereotype by backing small producers of everything from beer to meat, I think that decent chemical engineering practice requires so large an initial investment that it were best done by Big Evil Corporations….

      • hennorama

        geraldfnord — thank you for your response.

        That also is part of the plotline of Breaking Bad, as the protagonists migrate from independent small-batch production, to large-scale corporate manufacturing, with a massive production facility.

    • JacFlasche

      Hash oil is for idiots. You have to understand the MJ industry to know why. First of all, unless it is made with hypercritical CO2 or by consumable anhydrous ethanol it has hydrocarbon contaminates left in it. It doesn’t matter how you do it, they remain in the final product. Also this is how the producers get rid of their inferior product, and the stuff with mold, and bugs, and trim. Also a lot of it has been contaminated with dangerous chemicals that MJ growers MUST resort to in the face of common indoor and outdoor aliments like powdery mildew and flying aphids. These are also concentrated in such products and these poisons are not tested for by the labs. Try smelling some DOW Eagle 20 sometime without a respirator on (actually don’t). This is the only way to get rid of PM in a grow room. It causes reproduction problems in males and a host of other niceties. If you want quality uncontaminated herb, grow it yourself or have a friend do it. Do not trust the commercial growers. If it is between using Eagle 20 and loosing a million dollar corp guess who looses? The stupid hash oil user, that’s who.

      • hennorama

        JacFlasche — thank you for your very informative response.

  • geraldfnord

    In sum, I would hope that legalisation will result in more of our seeing marijuana as it is, good and ill, without the taint and glamour attendant to its being in the shadows.

    I would hope as well that some of the ills we see now are proper to these early days, transients that will die-out with time or mostly, and to the extent that they aren’t, find social and political remedies that don’t move all the way back to the blunt instrument of prohibition. To be old about it, back in the late ’70s people in my high school discouraged pot-headedness by mocking itnthings were relaxed enough then and there that there was no ‘rebel’ caché to it at all that I could see…I avoided it because the popular kids liked it, always a warning sign. This was far from perfect, but it was light-years beyond the punitive head-in-the-sand-ness of ‘Just Say No’.

  • Tom_in_Quinebaug

    The sugar in the Gummie Bears is worse for you than the THC

  • geraldfnord

    There are surely real problems, but I also wonder if some of the rise in reported medical interventions were due to people’s no longer being afraid to admit the real causes of their problems because they didn’t want prison and fines on top of them—something similar happened after alcohol Prohibition ended when reporting alcohol use was no longer an admission of criminal behaviour.

    • AC

      that is an interesting point…

  • Martin Holsinger

    Another one of your ludicrous, one-sided stories about marijuana…is the DEA your secret underwriter?

    Marijuana use is a learned skill. People learn, and can be taught, how to navigate life successfully while using it, and to take the “trial and error” approach of the first few months as how it’s gonna be is totally unfair to the use of an herb that has been part of human experience for tens of thousands of years. People don’t need emergency rooms for “overdoses,” they need “chillout rooms.” Set and setting help determine the experience, and people are much more likely to have a bad experience in a hospital.

    And the “oh, dear, people are getting really stoned” attitude is out of phase with reality. Marijuana has a vast array of beneficial effects at any dose level, and no toxicity. Comparing it to alcohol is completely inaccurate.

    If NPR is going to continue to occupy the airwaves with this kind of harum-scarum baloney, I will be reconsidering my support.

    • JacFlasche

      Really. . . what do you expect? Terence Mckenna said it best, “You have to be smart to use drugs.” That is, you have to be smart to use drugs and not screw up your life in one way or another. The people who think that eating too much MJ is reason to visit an emergency room are victims or their own hysteria at the fact that other avenues of perception are being presented to minds constricted by a steady diet of fast-food info of the media and the popular culture. This broadcast is almost pure disinformation. Quite like their scare tactics when they call semi-auto rifles, assault rifles, which they have been doing for decades, and which they know is nonsense since an assault rifle BY DESIGN must be capable of automatic fire. They know this but continue to use this hyperbolic term. This has been a parade of MJ dilettantes giving their expert opinion on something they have no expertise in.

      • Martin Holsinger

        Way back in the beginning, Tim Leary suggested that people should have to get some kind of license to use entheogens–and marijuana is an entheogen, make no mistake.

        In traditional cultures where such substances are used, there is a rigorous process of initiation to undertake before being considered adult enough to partake. In our culture,, any fool with money can buy whatever he wants, whether he’s got the smarts to use it properly or not. That’s the paradox of drug legalisation in a money culture. My opinion is that money is a much more serious “substance abuse” problem than marijuana!

        I wish our government was smart enough to undertake sensible entheogen education, but, alas, that’s far from the case.

  • keruffle

    Hope not
    Cash crop
    As cops
    Pop stops.
    New age
    Road rage
    Or sage
    Next stage?
    Mow down
    slow down.

    @keruffle

  • Charles

    I was glad Tom and the guests made it though an hour without any of the incessant giggling or tongue-in-cheek jokes about Cheetos that colored this topic’s discussion earlier in the year.

    Progress!

  • geraldfnord

    You fail to weigh the insignificant value the reduction of your great pain bears against the horrible prospect of some unworthy people’s enjoying themselves.

  • Fredlinskip

    They should offer bong hits at the counter like a wine tasting-
    Probably consumers would dole out more cash- like “kids at a candy store”.
    More tax revenue is what this is largely about, no?

  • John Cedar

    Yes, it makes my eyes red.

  • geraldfnord

    A pity, I guess; you might be able to use a more purified extract. It is also vaguely possible that you’re allergic to mould that, given prohibition, sometimes shows up on pot.

  • GuestAug27

    No surprise here. Legalization of pot (just like health care, education, etc.) turns out to be a disaster once it’s taken over by a bunch of greedy entrepreneurs interested in maximizing their profit, which includes getting as many people addicted to their product as possible (the same way for-profit tobacco and beer companies operate).
    Legal pot should be delivered as a public service by a small number of non-profits (coops).

  • Loren Talbott

    I was really outraged at Dr. Zane’s ridiculous comment that “If a child sees and wants a Gummy Bear he should be able to eat the Gummy Bear”. As a child I wanted to ride the neighbor’s large dog like a small horse, jump off the top of the roof of the house, take home especially cool toys that my friends and cousins had and drink up all of the Pepto Bismal becuse I thought it tasted good. It is the job of a parent to say simply “That is not for you” or “That is not yours to take”. If we were to follow Dr. Zane’s ridiculous comment then no store should allow toys, candy or cookies to be displayed because some child may want to have it then and there.
    How outrageous!

  • Amanda GB

    So many of the arguments regarding concerns about marijuana could be, point-for-point, paralleled to concerns about alcohol. The only difference is that alcohol is better understood and much more widely and culturally tolerated/used. Concerns about “dosage has a widely different effect from individual to individual” or “the dangers of edibles” to me seem identical to concerns about effect of alcohol depending on an individuals weight/tolerance or the danger of hard liquor vs. beer. Also, “if what you’re after is the high, what’s the difference between gummy bears and a tablet”…well, why make cocktails? Why make good tasting alcohol? Such a closed-minded viewpoint, in my opinion.

  • MrBigStuff

    A Democrat against the recreational use of pot? For shame!

  • JacFlasche

    My 2 cents. The money and marketing people jumping on the MJ bandwagon will surely screw up this opportunity for normalization. In my experience one of the very best uses of gov. legislation was when Quebec allowed only small corner stores to sell beer on Sundays. Now anyone who wants beer at big box store discounts can buy it up till MIdnight on Sundays, but this one law has kept many of these small family owned stores in business.

    In my opinion only people with legal disabilities should be allowed to grow MJ for other people, and only a set number of them. Though everyone should be able to grow it for themselves and any other plant they want to grow. This could get a lot of people off of disability because of the artificially high price of MJ. The real reason legal MJ is more expensive than illegal MJ is because there is such a thing as illegal MJ. Otherwise you would be talking price per bushel or hundred pounds, like soybeans.

    This whole thing is a mess basically because as always, the peoples leaders are the worst possible candidates to lead anyone anywhere.

  • Ana

    This program had an interesting discussion, but I’m troubled by two things. First, while the rate of hospital/ER admissions for pot related ‘overdose’ clearly has risen, there was no discussion of any deaths or serious injury from these overdoses. Second, one of the guests suggested it was improper to prescribe pot for back pain (as opposed to glaucoma or cancer). Meanwhile, today NPR reports that “prescription drug overdoses now kill more people each year than car crashes” (Scott Hensley, 7/1/14). To the extent pot is less harmful than common Rx painkillers (i.e. causes less death and/or serious injury in the event of overdose), isn’t prescribing pot for pain a good thing?

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  • Guest

    Two things: 1st; we often hear “back pain” thrown around as if it were trivial. “Back pain” is some of the most intense pain out there and can be debilitating. I have “back pain” from three four crushed vertebrae. I have medical card from the state of Arizona for this back pain. 2nd, we often hear that we need more research before legalization. Great, I agree, but… The federal government doesn’t allow it. The last time extensive research was done, the Schafer Commission, the federal government didn’t follow through with the recommendations because the conclusion of the research did not fit the narrative for prohibition.

  • http://www.helplanelosethecane.com Lane

    Two things: 1st; we often hear “back pain” thrown around as if it were trivial. “Back pain” is some of the most intense pain out there and can be debilitating. I have “back pain” from four crushed vertebrae. I have medical card from the state of Arizona for this back pain. 2nd, we often hear that we need more research before legalization. Great, I agree, but… The federal government doesn’t allow it. The last time extensive research was done, the Schafer Commission, the federal government didn’t follow through with the recommendations because the conclusion of the research did not fit the narrative for prohibition.

  • Regular_Listener

    Were you eating gummy bears not long before you posted this? Just wondering. ;-)

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