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Asperger Love

Teenage love with Asperger’s Syndrome. Connecting when it’s not easy.


Jack and Kirsten. (Fred R. Conrad/The New York Times)

A new report found that autism diagnoses jumped 72% since 2007. Those with Asperger’s are on the high-functioning end of that spectrum. They struggle with social cues. With navigating friendships and forming close relationships.

But of course they have emotions and want love. But forming loving bonds when you can’t read another person’s expressions can be challenging.

We’ll talk to one couple that’s navigating those challenges. And finding that their shared diagnosis helps them understand each other.

This hour, On Point: On the spectrum and in love.

- Jane Clayson


Amy Harmon, Pulitzer Prize-winning national correspondent for The New York Times, covers the impact of science and technology on American life, author of the E-book: “Asperger Love: Searching for Romance When You’re Not Wired to Connect“. (@amy_harmon)

Jack Robison, adult with Asperger’s Syndrome.

Kirsten Lindsmith, adult with Asperger’s Syndrome.

Dr. Max Wiznitzer, practicing Pediatric Neurologist at Rainbow Babies & Children’s Hospital in Cleveland, Associate Professor of Pediatric Neurology at Case Western Reserve University Medical School.

From Tom’s Reading List

New York Times “The months that followed Jack and Kirsten’s first night together show how daunting it can be for the mindblind to achieve the kind of mutual understanding that so often eludes even nonautistic couples. But if the tendency to fixate on a narrow area of interest is sometimes considered a drawback, it may also explain one couple’s single-minded determination to keep trying.”

Washington Post “A government survey of parents says 1 in 50 U.S. schoolchildren has autism, surpassing another federal estimate for the disorder. Health officials say the new number doesn’t mean autism is occurring more often. But it does suggest that doctors are diagnosing autism more frequently, especially in children with milder problems.”

The Telegraph “However, in Aston’s experience, this appeal can wear thin. ‘Women fall in love and want to nurture this unworldly, slightly vulnerable man and help him grow up. As the relationship settles, though, they often find their own emotional needs aren’t being met.’”

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  • geraldfnord

    Sorry to jump the gun, but as a (medically-diagnosed, not by the Internet) aspie I have had to learn not to need overly-demonstrative or explicit expressions of love from my wife—and I greatly appreciate her being able to live with what others might consider oddnesses and difficulties pertaining thereto.  In return, she gets someone who can’t lie to her, someone not boringly normal, someone who doesn’t hold her to arbitrary and irrational societal standards, and someone incapable of altering his love when it alteration finds.  Basically, I’m glad that she’s not normal, either…and it’s probably good that she’s not different in the same way as I.

    The only usual difficulty, beside my seeming inability to find a job I can tolerate and which will tolerate me, is that sometimes when I phrase a question in a particular way, e.g. ‘Would you mind if I went out now?,’ her answer ‘Sure,’ confuses me—I have to remember that she were affirming my _intention_, rather than my question….

    • joeybagodoughnuts

       I’m a married (and clinically diagnosed) Aspie too (I was diagnosed at 7, back before the AS diagnosis, I was PDD and ADHD), and I agree 100% with the following statement.  Also, my wife appreciates that I can’t lie, even though there are times it would make things easier.  There were a few awkward moments in our courtship before I confessed to her.  She’s had to learn to be very emotive with me so that I read her social cues clearly.  Sometimes her questions or answers to my questions puzzle me too. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/bkort Barry Kort

    In trying to apprehend how love feels to AS vs NT, I was moved by Ray Bradbury’s insight into that issue in his short story “I Sing the Body Electric” which was originally aired on Twilight Zone, and later expanded into a longer version of the story, “The Electric Grandmother.”

    Bradbury’s point had to do with the distinction (if there is one) between “love” and “paying attention” to someone.

  • nj_v2

    I stepped out for a minute, so maybe i missed it, but shouldn’t the program have begun by defining, exactly, what a clinical diagnosis of autism and Asperger’s Syndrome comprises?

    Is a compromised ability to “read social cues” enough to warrant it being a medical “condition”? 

    Isn’t this a learned ability like writing, reading, drawing?

    Without a context of exactly what the condition really is, the conversation is just floating in the ether for me. I don’t think this is common knowledge.

    • http://www.facebook.com/bkort Barry Kort

      Yes, one can learn to recognize and interpret non-verbal cues, just as one can learn to recognize phonemes and scribbles on paper as spoken or written language that can be decoded.  For some reason, they don’t teach children how to recognize and interpret non-verbal cues like facial expressions, tone of voice, or gross body language.  As a child, my parents expressly admonished me not to pay attention to these nonverbal cues.  I never fully understood why this was forbidden, but I didn’t really begin to acquire that faculty of non-verbal language decoding until I was in my thirties.  Like learning any language later in life, I am not as fluent as those who learned it in early childhood.

      • Chuck Palson

        As a high functioning aspie, I can only partially agree that recognizing non-verbal cues can be learned. I know I can’t read a lot of facial expressions because I have been tested. I can learn them to some extent, but it’s useless in actual interaction because the recognition delay to long to be useful. In addition, I suspect there’s a lot I don’t have a clue about.

        • http://www.facebook.com/bkort Barry Kort

          I’m useless at fleeting micro-expressions.

          And I’m mediocre at recognizing and interpreting subdued levels of expressions.

          In the early days of silent movies, the actors way over-acted to express fear or other easily recognized emotions on the face.

          When Bones or Spock raised an eyebrow on Star Trek, I learned that it signaled skepticism, but I’m sure that a lot of the more subtle, subdued, and nuanced expressions were lost on me.

          • Chuck Palson

            I know from my own experience exactly what you describe. But on the plus side, now that I know I’m missing stuff, even though I can’t count on what it is, I can often respond in ways that at least don’t break up the conversation, so I am a part of the general give and take. 

            But I get the most satisfaction out of people with whom I share interests in common. Such people often seem to be high functioning aspies although they may not know it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/bkort Barry Kort

            It took me decades to discover that when I was waxing loquacious on some topic, everybody was missing stuff, but they were too polite to tell me they had no idea what I was talking about.  In the last 30 years, exactly two highly educated people disclosed to me that they had no idea what I was talking about.

          • Chuck Palson

            That wasn’t my problem. Everyone knew what I was talking about, but they were subjects that was not supposed to be discussed in casual company.

        • d clark

          I am not ‘aspie’; I can easily read people and intuit there ideas and motives. I just don’t give a sh*t. What is that called

          • Chuck Palson

            Without more information, it’s hard to say. But if this reflects your usual behavior, I suspect it’s simply a case of a total lack of empathy – which is a defining characteristic of psychopaths. 

            Then again, maybe you are just an extremely angry person and need some anger management sessions so you won’t be your own worst enemy. 

      • Chuck Palson

        Barry – do you have any idea what motivated them to tell you not to pay attention to nonverbal cues?

        I know from direct experience that some cultures (e.g., Brazil) consider it normal to refer to each others’ nonverbal cues, and we never do in normal conversation – it’s simply unthinkable – UNLESS it’s an expression of aggression. 

        But to not “pay attention” to them? Was that a general rule they expressed or did they admonish you only when you mentioned it or they knew by observing how you acted? 

        I’m wondering if they themselves might have been high functioning aspies and realized at least that they made embarrassing errors they didn’t want you to make? I never knew or heard of any parents who admonished their children for this. I find it very interesting and wonder how common it might be. (I was trained as an anthropologist and so I’m always curious about seeming divergences – that turn out to be common but mostly hidden.)

        • http://www.facebook.com/bkort Barry Kort

          I remember the episode well.  I was probably 8 or 9 years old, playing outside with the neighbor kids when my parents called me in for lunch.  As I sat down at the kitchen table, I began reporting on some exciting discovery I had made with my playmates, whereupon my brother, a year older than me, rolled his eyes.  Now I had never seen that before, had no idea what it meant, or even the vocabulary to say, “Steve just rolled his eyes.”

          So I stopped and asked what that meant.  My father, having no clue what I was referring to, asked me what I was talking about.  I said, “Steve went like this…” and I mimicked the eye rolling movement for my father’s benefit.

          “It doesn’t mean anything,” said my father, “pay no attention.”

          “It has to mean something,” I protested.

          “I said it doesn’t mean anything,” said my father in a stern tone of voice.

          Now I was a fairly obedient kid at that age, so I accepted my father’s dictum, and discontinued any further effort to notice or decode non-verbal cues.  

          Fast forward a coupla of decades, and I find a book on body language.  I read the book and discover that all those gestures do have a meaning.  The next time I call home to chat with my parents, I mention this discovery to my father, telling him that those odd facial expressions and body language really do carry meaning.

          “That’s a lot of hooey,” he says, and that’s the end of that.

          For a long time I wondered why reading non-verbal cues was such a taboo.  And then it occurred to me.  My parents were in their twenties during the Holocaust years. I was born just as WW II was ending.  It turns out that a lot of people in my parents’ generation had “survivor guilt” in the years after the end of WW II.  The last thing they wanted was for their children’s generation to practice “mind-reading” on them by learning to decode subtle non-verbal cues.  So my generation grew up without being taught the rudiments of emotional intelligence.  We simply did not psychologize about the suspected but undisclosed emotional states of others.  It was an unacceptable practice in that culture.  

          Compare that to the “emo” culture we have today, more than half a century later.

          So that’s my hypothesis, Chuck, for what it’s worth.  I really don’t know how to confirm or falsify it at this point.

          • Chuck Palson

            Maybe, but it doesn’t quite ring true. I wonder if it was more a function of the culture from Europe – For example, I can imagine that GErman Jews might have inherited the attitude from German culture. But like you, I can only hypothesize.

          • http://www.facebook.com/bkort Barry Kort

            Chuck, here is some intriguing evidence that it was cultural.

            At the link below, compare two clips of popular music, one from the 1960s, and one contemporary, both numbers expressing a lamentation of a lovelorn youth.

            From Cool to Hot

          • Chuck Palson

            It’s certainly one of the cutest videos I’ve seen in a while. But the subject of culture and displays of emotion gets complex when studied cross culturally. For example, in Brazil, it is expected that people won’t be sincere the way we think of it – in fact, Americans are considered quite naive in their beliefs being and showing sincerity by showing emotional connections to each other. In the case of Brazil, while Bosa Nova involves restriction of displays of emotion, most musical styles in Brazil are the opposite. On the other hand, such displays are rare in ALL of Japanese and Chinese culture. 

            There are reasons for these differences, but it would take too much space here to explain.

            But thanks for the opera stuff – I really enjoyed it.

          • koprods

            You make a good point. I just viewed several of Astrud’s videos and at first I thought she was performing that way as an ‘act’ to be different. Then I watched a 43 minute live performance. She was older and learned not to be so stiff but she introduced her band, then a very good artist friend who appeared on the show and then afterward she was interviewed by a correspondent. I scanned through it quickly and it seems that everyone around her kept at least a 3-4 foot zone away from her. No hand shakes or anything.  The Mozart Aria was a good comparison.  You have a good eye!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFta0xxPtd4  Live Astrud 43 minute performance. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/bkort Barry Kort

            Like the Girl from Ipanema (as described in the lyrics of the song), Astrid Gilberto is herself aloof and emotionally unengaged, making no eye contact, inviting no intimacy or physical embrace.

            Like the enigmatic Mona Lisa, her largely expressionless countenance conceals far more than it reveals of her inner emotional landscape.

            The signature song is in a muted minor key, signifying an emptiness, a longing, an absence of any desirable emotional connection.

            It reminds me a little of Hitchcock’s Marnie, a character who was comparably emotionally distant and aloof.

    • http://www.facebook.com/frank.richards Frank Richards

      You have inadvertently nailed it. Yes, it is a learned ability like reading or drawing. And these people are the equivalent of dyslexics. 

      Dyslexia is a medical condition, and its effects can range from having to try a little harder than average, to a complete inability to convert squiggles to words. The “autism spectrum” works the same way but with social interactions and extreme personal interests.

      But, caveat from an aspie who cannot lie, once you get past “high functioning autistic” it’s all guesses. No one who can talk to the normal world can talk to them.

  • http://twitter.com/iambrandsuz Suz Carter

    Did someone define ‘neurotypical’?  What is that?

    • nj_v2

      If they did, i missed it, too.

      They also keep talking about “on the spectrum.” (??)

      What are the criteria which define and bound “the spectrum.”I honestly have no idea what they’re talking about.

      • joeybagodoughnuts

        “Neurotypical,” or NT, is what some people on the spectrum use to define people who intuit the world through normal sensory ways such as reading faces and social reciprocity.  Basically NTs are “wired” in way most non-ASD perceive the world and the unspoken language of body and face communication. I’m on the spectrum and don’t much care for the term, it’s a bit discriminatory.

        “On the spectrum” is a term now used by psychologist and people with Autism Spectrum Disorder to describe the many different ways the Disorder manifests itself.  It used to be that all autism-based disorders had different diagnoses, but research has found that it’s more of a continuum, and people can, with therapy and training, go from one part of the continuum to the other.  On the spectrum you’ll find classic non-speech autistic people, autistic savants (think Rain Man), high functioning austism, Asperger’s Syndrome, and people with autism who are a little eccentric (I fit in the final category, but was much closer to high functioning autism earlier in life).  There is even some research to see whether Attention Deficit Disorder, ADD, is on the spectrum (many ASD have it, but it’s still not seen as causational, but rather correlational).  Hope I could help!    

        • http://www.facebook.com/dominique.meyers.79 Dominique Meyers

           I can understand the usefulness of the term NT to help convey the difficulties people with Asperger’s are facing, but as the mother of a son recently diagnosed I felt horrible about this idea that I was NT and he was not. I asked for guidance from the psychologist whose testing resulted in the diagnosis and she pointed out that I was what Tony Atwood would call a hyper-empathizer. I don’t want to take anything away from those struggling with Asperger’s, but I think there are many more who are not on the spectrum who are also not NT. Perhaps hyperempathizers will have a category one day. For what it is worth I was evaluated throughout childhood and teen years and I think there was a lot of head scratching going on. Maybe some here knows about fragments and tendencies in families with others on the spectrum. I haven’t found anything that satisfies me yet. And I would like to add that I think that pathologizing differences is problematic for everyone. Did I just open a new can of worms?

    • Rivka

      neurotypical means someone without aspergers/autism (or some other diagnosable thing.)

  • Jim Quane

    I’m surprised by some of the awkward questions being posed to these two delightful young people.  Who would ask on national radio whether they’re thinking about marriage, having children or how they think differently from others?  As the gentleman mentioned — how can he answer such a strange question. he can no more tell how he thinks differently from the interviewer than the interviewer can say how she thinks differently from him

  • http://www.facebook.com/bkort Barry Kort

    The evidence that people on the Autism Spectrum are just as capable of sexual interest or arousal as NT is in the name of the syndrome itself.

    Eugen Bleuler considered a diagnostic label of “ipsism” whereas Sigmund Freud proposed “autoerotism.”  Bleuler ultimately shortened Freud’s suggested label, and settled on “autism.”

    Source: Autism, E-Notes with citations to original correspondence between Freud and Jung, when Jung was the resident at Bleuler’s Burghölzi Clinic.

    • joeybagodoughnuts

       Yep, I like sex just as much as any other guy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kathy.warren.908 Kathy Warren

    A wonderful show. No one in my immediate family has aspergers but I’m struck by the universality of their problems / concerns. 
    There coping skills and problems solving around these issues are helpful for all people in all kinds of relationships. Just as accessibility ramps are a god sent for many more people than those they are designed for – moms with baby carriages, those with with slightly creaky legs, toddlers, anybody moving heavy objects etc.

    Great show.
    Kathy from Lexington Ma

  • anonymous22140

    I’m an east coast trucker and enjoy listening to on point whenever I can. I have had to turn off this episode though because it is causing me great anxiety. I have always been a “square peg” in this world. I assune, from my own research and having a friend with asperger’s that I may too have it. I’ve never been diagnosed, and have had to find my own way in the world. I’m married, with two children. I know I fail to meet the emotional expectations of my familial role. I am convinced after this program, that I need to seek some assistance on this matter. I’m sorry I couldn’t continue to listen, but the surge of anxiety/guilt/something was too much.

    • joeybagodoughnuts

       Anon, try to get a proper diagnosis.  There are too many “self-diagnosed aspies” out there for my taste.  You probably won’t learn anything you don’t already know if you get a diagnosis, but there are great therapists out there that can help you learn more about how the world works and how you can better interact with it.  Good luck on your journey! 

      • anonymous22140

        Thanks joey, used to work in medical field, so I understand the abhorance toward the wonderful world of webmd’s out there :-) Though at the same time I couldn’t make official inquiries for quite awhile due to schedule and personal considerations. The “fake it til you make it” approach to life has served me fairly in the meantime, but today’s program really kinda shoved it into my face how over my head I am.

    • Chuck Palson

      You might say I’m a self-diagnosed aspy, and I suppose I am. But my self-diagnosis of other conditions has been confirmed a few times, and this one is simply too obvious to ignore. In fact, I have struggled over the last three years to connect the dots – to pull together my dreadful lack of social skills. By the time of the program – and with the help of my love of 17 years – I was on the cusp of understanding it that it was indeed asburgers. 

      My self-diagnosis of ADHD was confirmed by a professional about 6 years ago. Then I heard that ADHD is related to – if not a part of – asbergers. That and other clues drove me to zero in on how to adapt to it. I may yet go to a professional, but I know I have already done well because people are treating me in new, amazing and loving ways – which confirms I am on the right track. 

      It’s quite an experience to have this happen when I’m in my seventies. I never felt so wonderful about just living and being with people!

      So do what you have to and know you could very well find a wonderful world waiting for you.

    • cynthia atwood

      i believe that this is exactly the point that the interviewer standing in for Tom Ashbrook is trying to get at: how can you tell the difference between your own emotional disconnect with your spouse (or work, or yourself, or whatever) versus someone with Aspberger’s. More to the point…..is it all that big a deal.  These kids are 21 and 22 —-how much different are their experiences to any other kids of their age. Lastly, there are generations of mostly men, but also women who would not know how to ‘explain’ how they’re feeling if asked. or how they ‘feel’ about romance. or how to reciprocate if your girlfriend puts her hand on your leg. etc.
      Back in the day to be a bit socially awkward or to have a more left brained thought process simply indicated you’d have a darn good chance of becoming an engineer.  “i don’t necessarily see aspberger’s as a disability…’ 

      Finally, i hope tom ashbrook gets back from vacation soon. don’t think this show was up to standard

    • shiningnrb

      How courageous of you to share your feelings online around not being able to here the rest of the show!  The truth is that for all of us humans, when something hits close to home that is painful we feel vulnerable……and that leads to all sorts of feelings.  

      While I do not know you, it might help to hear stories from Brene Brown on Ted Talks online. “Typical” (let’s face it, we are all uniquely ourselves) as I might be, my need to grow and learn is the same as my 18 year old who has Aspergers. 

       Brene is described in her first talk as a shame researcher/story teller.  She is funny, real, hopeful and here what I loved most: 4 years ago, she helped me realize that “something being too much” was a universal feeling/experience we all have.  Sometimes when I buried my head in the sand what it was was shame.  We all experience it.  The piece is what do we do with it?  I can share that reading her books, seeing her talks have fundamentally changed so much for me in my relationships, including my husband and children. It might help to know that you are not alone in your struggle, to know that there are others who also struggle with those feelings too (And yes, that includes folks who are “typical”)!

      I wish you for you an amazing journey as you Dare Greatly, as Brene would say. Any husband and dad that can share his thoughts online the way you did,sounds like a great person!  

    • Jennifer Corinne Poag Guzman

      Dear anonymous22140,  Our world would be quite dull if we were all the same.  Please don’t see it as a disability, but just that you march to a different drummer and that is great.  I hope you find peace within yourself.  All the best.

  • joeybagodoughnuts

    To anyone that’s listening, my wife, “Erica from Virginia Beach” called in just a minute ago.  We’re celebrating our one year anniversary next  Sunday!  I love you Erica!   

  • http://twitter.com/StockdaleWolfe StockdaleWolfe

    I am on the spectrum and have been married for almost 24 years to a man who is also on the spectrum.  I went through a very difficult period before I met him at age 35 and so did he.  I chronicled my “learning to love” and finding love in a memoir.  We both bumbled through and just found out about my diagnosis 3 years ago.  I diagnosed my husband although my psychiatrist whom my husband consulted with for a time agrees with my diagnosis.

  • Emilia Nobrega

    I really enjoyed this story as a girl with aspergers (please spell it correctly it just makes you appear ignorant) navigating the tumultuous social world of highschool. My school district has exceptionally good special education resources however, it still remains that I am just one of two girls in the entire school with aspergers. This often makes most to all social interactions with my peers in that class especially awkward. It was nice to hear the story of a girl with aspergers as these stories are so often male centered. My one major criticism was that the way the interviewers spoke about “aspies” as if we are aliens! This obviously is not the case and I expected a less neurotypically biased story from NPR. Also, I was disappointed that the intelligence level of aspies was rated at average even though we often are disposed to higher intelligence (“book smart” kind of course)

    • John Moore

      http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/aspergers-syndrome/DS00551 — offers “Asperger’s syndrome.” So does http://www.autism-society.org. Apparently “Asperger syndrome” is another possibility, on the pattern, I guess, of “Down syndrome.”

      Asperger is a proper noun and thus requires capitalization.

      Who gives you the authority, Emilia, to write “please spell it correctly it just makes you appear ignorant.” What you write is erroneous.

  • Thom Stanton

    Our 16 year old son is an Aspy. While exhibiting common markers, he’s very sweet and loving, and desperately seeks a relationship.

    While being in the Special Education track since 5th grade, taking co-led classes, and Social Skills in high school, we’ve found that there is a lack of giving children the tools necessary for social interaction with others of the opposite sex. It’s not fair to blame the schools for a lack of covering this incredibly important topic (as one in the broadcast stated, they show you the pieces-and-part and maybe even the how to in Sex Ed), but not the means. There’s a definite lack of how to interact with those with whom they would like to develop a relationship.

    This goes to the most basic level of what is and isn’t appropriate, and what will provide the greatest level of success — being attractive, exhibiting behavioral cues of interest in a relationship, and ways to initiate the dating ritual. As our knowledge and acceptance of Autism increases, we must arm those with these attendant social challenges with the means to evolve beyond the adolescent interests, through the frustrations of puberty, and into adulthood with the capability to become involved in a loving, caring, and mutually beneficial relationships.

    In our son’s words, “I’m scared that I’m going to be your age (45) and be all alone… I don’t have the tools to deal with this.” That our son recognized and verbalized this inner turmoil was hard to hear as it echoes conversations held with my wife. And yet, I found this very encouraging as it illustrates his want for both the outcome (a long-term relationship), the means to provide the opportunities, and determination to learn new tools.

    And so we turn the page on a new and exciting chapter in the lives of a family here to love and support each other.

  • Anon7770

    As an adult “neurotypical” woman married for many years to a man recently diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome, I have navigated some rough patches in our marriage. It has felt, to me, that I was doing all of the “navigating.” I found the book “The Journal of Best Practices: A Memoir of Marriage, Asperger Syndrome, and One Man’s Quest to Be a Better Husband” by David Finch, to be very helpful to me. The book is funny, touching, and taught me to recognize how my husband tries and works on our marriage too. I didn’t see it….. Of course, when I asked him to read the book too, his response was “This is uninteresting to me, it is all about him.” :)

  • AlianneS

    The host saying autistic people (which includes Aspies) “aren’t programmed for love” is INCREDIBLY offensive.

    Dear (?) host: in one statement, you both implied that autistic people aren’t human, but rather machines or robots, and told a FLAT-OUT LIE by saying they can’t love.

    This is the kind of attitude that promotes discrimination against autistic people.

    NPR, I expected better from you than to broadcast this ableist bigotry. I certainly won’t be listening again!

    • Mark Neese

      As the father of an Aspie, to suggest they are incabable of love is completely ludicrous and offensive. I’m in complete agreement, AlianneS.

      • Rivka

        Thank you, Aliannes and Mark. I am an Aspie, and have and feel intense love for my closest friend and a child I care for (I’m single) to the point that I could make any sacrifice for them, and they know it.  I love others also, although I’m only good at showing emotions to the first two I mentioned.

  • onp0intlistener

    Another disappointing program on the subject of autistic spectrum
    disorder. Although the one before that was alright.


    Young man who was interviewed is the son of a “professional
    aspie” Robinson who is now apparently publishing a book, and the expert is
    publishing another book with apparent cross promotion motive. Publicizing the
    book is fine, but if the subject of the book is himself indirect beneficiary
    and product of commercial efforts by author’s collaborator, this looks very messy
    and very unfortunate. The relationship is not revealed until last minutes of the program.


    Host kept referring to people as “having Aspergers”. I was
    glad to hear that one of the experts was more careful in choice of words and made
    correction as “having Aspergers diagnosis”.


    To me this is softer version of TAM slip in their reporting
    about Apple. Critical thinking is not applied when reporting on a story
    conforming too well to cultural stereotypes.


    Regular listener for around 10 years.

  • Regular_Listener

    Wow, what an interesting show.  While I have no personal experience of being close to people with Aspergers, although in retrospect I probably have known a few who had it, it is very interesting to learn about what they go through.  On Point continues to surprise me.

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Tuesday, Aug 26, 2014

Why is Burger King buying a Canadian coffee and doughnut chain? (We’ll give you a hint: tax rates).

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