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Cyberbullying And Sexual Shaming

When cyberbullying turns into sexual shaming, with one teen who decided to tell her peers it’s got to stop.

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In Nathaniel Hawthorne’s “The Scarlet Letter,” the sexually-shamed woman wore her shame with a capital A.  But that three hundred and fifty years ago.  The new scarlet letter is harder to shake.

Digital images, sexual images, taken surreptitiously or otherwise, and posted and shared online.  It’s potent tool of teenage bullying, in particular.  Digital, online, sexual shaming.

A teenage New York high school reporter has brought it vividly, disturbingly, to the public eye.  She’s with us.

This hour, On Point:  teenage cyberbullying and the new scarlet letter – sexual shaming online.

-Tom Ashbrook

Guests

Temitayo Fagbenle, member of Radio Rookies, a New York Public Radio initiative that helps teens produce radio stories. Her radio report, “Sexual Cyberbullying, The Modern Day Letter A” came out earlier this month.

Danielle Citron, professor of law at the University of Maryland focusing on information privacy and civil rights. Author of the upcoming book, “Hate 3.0: The Rise of Online Harassment and How to Stop It.” (@daniellecitron)

From Tom’s Reading List

NPR “In the Puritan times of the 17th century, shaming women as in Nathaniel Hawthorne’s The Scarlet Letter for their wanton acts was a whole town effort. Today, this so-called slut shaming has a new tool. Instead of the town square, some people now turn to social media sites to share explicit photos and videos to shame these women and girls among their peers.”

ABC News “In a recent online trend, teen girls have been posting silly photos of themselves that are then altered to include blunt advice to each other, about things like how to dress more appropriately. But some of the photos have then gone viral, and led to what some are calling a new form of teen shaming.”

BuzzFeed “It seems there’s just something very likable — in the internet sense, at least — about a girl using social media to attack other girls. It may well be easier to build a coalition against an ‘enemy’ who is different from you — as in the girls vs. boys nature of the responses to Boy In Outer Space — but it’s another when the enemy IS you. ‘You’re not being a girl in the right way’ is still a very popular argument to make. So, too, is ‘I’m not like other girls.’”

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  • MadMarkTheCodeWarrior

    The damage caused by bullying to an individual’s psyche is hard to comprehend for those who have not been subjected to extreme bullying, or witnessed its effect on a loved one. The suffering and consequences can manifest in many different aspects of one’s life for decades if not an entire lifetime.

    Those who think this is much ado about nothing have no idea of how extreme bullying can become. Kids descend to horrific levels of barbarism committing unconscionable acts of cruelty. They become like mindless sharks swarming around chum, but such a comparison is an insult to animals: this is not about survival, this is about sadism.

    These acts not only harm their victims but become learned behavior that harms the perpetrators as well. What guilt do bullies have to live with if they drive a child to commit suicide?

    Sadly there’s no accountability until it’s too late and someone is  psychologically handicapped, physically injured or dies.

  • MadMarkTheCodeWarrior

    Can the victims of bullying become bullies later in life, much like abused children becoming abusers?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QMDZ3LH5U2B4GAT7J2HS4TCP6E Jim

    cyber bulling is tough. i believe the solution is to shut down the social media for kids before going to college. i just do not see why kids need facebook. friendship and closeness to people can be had going to school everyday. 

    bullying has been a problem for as long as human civilization existed. but social media is a problem… it can be the problem.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6CO5C2HE4WM2OYGCDVWGPRXXM oldman

    Some kids are just so cruel, it’s always been that way and that hasn’t changed. They just have so many more tools available to facilitate that now.

    • janem03

      it’s not just kids, people at all ages can be so cruel. the subjugation and hatred of women is pervasive in the culture. i’ve dealt with it all my life. many people are sadistic, though it’s not popular to say so, and they like to inflict degradation and pain on whomever they perceive they can. “homo homini lupus”. that said, temitayo is an incredibly observant and courageous voice. please keep it up.

  • ToyYoda

    Is this an American phenomena?  Or does this problem exist in other countries where sexuality is more acceptable like in Europe?  What about in countries like Japan?

  • AC

    so ‘people of walmart’ is adult bullying then?
    i used to giggle at those, but to be honest, as some point i just become jealous that they live so freely…

  • MadMarkTheCodeWarrior

    Don’t child pornography laws apply to these posts? I ask not so much in the interest of individual prosecution, but placing liability and burden on Twitter, Facebook, Youtube etc who are enabling this?

    • ritabutz

      Thank you… I was wondering the same thing. Why not prosecute for child pornography?

  • distractedriver

    Wow, I’m only in my early thirties, work in the IT industry and I haven’t even heard of “World Star.”   I shudder to think what other media outlets kids know and parents are in the dark about.

    • hennorama

      Not to mention the paradoxical conundrum involved.  While pointing out this problem, one needs to reveal some of the methodolgy of the perpetrators, which can then be used to perpetrate the problem.

  • geraldfnord

    Bullying will be a tough nut to crack for the simple reason that bullying has always been one of the ways in which a society passes down its values and sanctions conduct it finds unacceptable, policing individual natures by implanting the policeman _within_, early on that it might stick better. To that extent the values bullies enforce are our true values what we want them to be or not: we despise weakness, interest in topics about which most people, people who talk funny or look funny, and certainly people who won’t or can’t meet our gender rôles.

    To some nonzero extent, bullying is as necessary to policing individual behaviour as prison violence is to our system of legal reward and punishment.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1408098372 Mari McAvenia

    I hope that this broadcast will be heard by millions of teens. If teens can spread vicious shaming online – to be seen by masses of people- they also need the tools to spread peer-to-peer education just as virally. I have great respect for Temitayo. Thanks for your bravery & efforts towards curbing this damaging trend.  

  • krspvd

    I am also interested: aren’t these images child pornography?  It seems like schools, police depts etc could crack down in some way on the basis of criminality.  This is not a case of “kids will be kids” – this is illegal and dangerous.

  • Josiah Vanvliet

    Is this a question of privacy, or of morality? I think that we need to stop judging people on what their sexual behavior. 

    http://metabelief.blogspot.com/2013/01/sex-is-not-immoral.html

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6CO5C2HE4WM2OYGCDVWGPRXXM oldman

    On thing not getting discussed is how a lot of girls get caught up in this – if they don’t participate they’ll get labeled prude, frigid, uncool, not worth going out with, etc. Basically you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1408098372 Mari McAvenia

      Good point. Blaming the victim is the default position of most folks in cases of sexual assaults upon women & girls. Other females tend to be the harshest judges, too, due to low self-esteem & drilled-in social expectations of girls, overall, in America. Smart females have never been considered particularly sexy or popular during teen years.  Unfortunately, the social pressures & imprints from junior high & high school tend to stick. Too many adults have prurient interests in the sexuality of teen girls well into old age. But, that’s another topic….  

  • OnpointListener

    Posting naked photos of people under 18 years old is ILLEGAL.

    Any victim, parent, or school can call the internet crimes unit in their state seeking an investigation AND prosecution.

  • onpointradio

    Question: Is it technically possible to trace the perpetrators of cyberbulling? ARe any laws protecting the victims? Could perpetrators be sued?

  • Steve_in_Vermont

    In high school I was both bullied and a bully. As I matured I realized how
    irresponsible my behavior was and it’s bothered me ever since. I now can’t stand
    to see anyone bullied and vowed to never do it, or allow it, again. For years I
    carried a grudge against the person who bullied me. I ran into him years later
    and, out of the blue, he stated how sorry he was for bullying me and others. It
    appears this is a “phase” many youngsters go through, a part of the maturing
    process, mistakes and all. (Of course in the 50′s nothing went “viral”, as it
    does today. The Internet just makes this issue much more complicated)

  • Joanna Gilbert

    She’s my hero!  I heard the original Rookie Reporter report and then heard it rebroadcast on BBC last week.  My son is 11 and already the boys talk about the girls who are “sluts”.  I asked him why they don’t talk about the boys that were with these girls.   He had no answer and that made him think about it.  The attitude of the boys in Temitayo’s original report sickened me and anything I can do to educate my son and his friends not to behave this way is a small step in the right direction

  • Ashlee White

    Question:  Does it not take 2 to Tango? Why are these young men not considered whores or ho’s?  What if there was sexual shaming of men online?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1408098372 Mari McAvenia

      They’d immediately start to COMPETE for the title of nastiest. Wouldn’t work.

  • nolamom05

    WOW!!!
    Excellent report and so incredibly sad!
    Why don’t people realize the lasting impact this has on their lives. Totally scares me for my children.
    Will share with everyone I know!

  • Human898

    It would be interesting to trace the roots of these attitudes.   Is it innate or learned behavior?  If learned, what are some of the ways to change the patterns?  If innate, are there also ways to change the patterns?    Is there something in our culture regarding fame and inflamy that contributes to all of this?  

    How about one’s own insecurity and some need to put down others, as well as peer pressure, to make one somehow feel empowered where they may otherwise feel simply another number and powerless in a sea of humanity?

  • Scott B

    Unfortunately this country still sees the victims of sexual harassment and crime as the deviant, and the one to be shunned. 

    They think it’s all done in fun, and don’t see what the problem is. Kids brains aren’t fully developed, and that’s part of the problem. Too many just can’t grasp the consequences go along with their decisions.

    These days the first thing schools should be doing is having a student assembly and explain that certain images are considered  child  porn and subject to prosecution.

  • http://twitter.com/RheaBecker Rhea Becker

    Please provide a context of feminism to the discussion. Online shaming is just one more manifestation of the overwhelming misogyny in our culture. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HTGZURGGT24RX5BL4BNRRUZ27A tracy

    People do thinks that they regred, everyone has as a teenager. To me, it sounds like there needs to be an education campaign directed at young boys. Sex is supposed to be an exploring, careful, sensitive activity. Being recorded without permission is akin to rape, if you think about it. If the girl was asked, and she said yes, then it would be excemt from this assertion. Who is reminding young people that sex is supposed to be about trust?

    On another note, if a corporation took your face and used it for an add campaign, you would be able to assert your rights to your image (unless you have agreed to it in writing), the law should do something similar regarding this behaviour (liebel?).  I don’t understand how a cellphone, during intercourse, is consciously being reached for and used, sometimes secretly, maliciously. I think its really sad that malice and secrecy is part of any sexual experience.

  • ThisDudeAbides

    As a society we have rushed into technology without really considering its ill effects on us as people. This is probably just the beginning of a lot of awful surprises for us down the road. Kids are being kids as always, but we have given them new and dangerous tools.

  • OnpointListener

    Warning to children and teenagers – child pornographers are stealing facial photos from facebook and other sites and are photoshopping naked bodies onto those faces.  In other words, no one is safe unless they protect their images from exposure on the internet….

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1408098372 Mari McAvenia

      Very true! It’s big business. Many years ago, at the dawn of the digital age, I worked, very briefly, for a software distributor. I saw that a lot of their wares contained pornographic images of teens & pre-teens for overseas shipment. Totally disgusted & enraged, I quit. In order to get another job I did not go to the authorities. ”Whistleblowing” is not a lucrative career choice. The guys who were the leaders in the field, back then, were very perverted & creepy but also very, very wealthy. I’m still broke but morally sound. DON”T allow anybody to get sexually explicit pictures of kids! Teens need to protect themselves before it’s too late. 

  • Human898

    If one looks at the history of the world and our nation, it was not until the last century that the mothers of every human being on earth gained a legal “right” to choose their own destiny as voting citizens.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1408098372 Mari McAvenia

      We haven’t had recognizable “souls” for too long, either.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2FJWQIZJZKXKPIQ3FE2R6ZCUOE Amy

    I really do think that we need to be educated about this type of shaming and bullying.  As a parent, I want to educate my daughters and hope that parents of boys will also do so.  It doesn’t mean that we will stop it, but in the same way that I talk to my children about safe sex, I’ll talk to them about this too.

  • MadMarkTheCodeWarrior

    So how about enforcing child pornography laws at the corporate level. Are they not are complicit in this?

    • http://profiles.google.com/rickevans033050 Rick Evans

       Someone is reading my mind or projecting thoughts into my mind.

  • burroak

    Kudos to Temitayo Fagbenle for her radio report; let this be a catalyst for a national teenage movement that will confront cyberbullies.
    Do not let the bullies shame your character. Do not let misery win over integrity.
    Stand up and let your voices be heard.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MS3BJQ5PI4LRON67F54DSUXF3M Tommy

    Are(n’t) there many willing participants?  How can we raise a generation of boys respectful of women, when so many women seem completely willing to participate in both the actions (and also inthe shaming that follows?  Seems like we’re just conflicted:  We want a sex-positive, free love culture, but then we’re easily “shamed” when our actions are exposed.  Seriously, do those participating “have no shame”?  If not, should(n’t) there be _some_ social stigma in order to help deter/warn young people from doing what they (say) they don’t really want to do?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1408098372 Mari McAvenia

      The backlash is always delayed. Hindsight is 20/20. There are a number of cliches that apply here but the fact remains: kids do stupid things sometimes. Add alcohol & drugs plus peer-pressure & a camera- there it is, for the whole world to see. Adults have a choice in the matter, sometimes, but kids often can’t think beyond the moment. That’s why sexual predators prey upon the young more often than they do upon old(er) women. Dumb boys and ill-informed girls armed with all the goodies of networking technology are bound to do idiotic things. Sadistic things? Yes, those, too. That’s why strong boundaries need to be set & reinforced. This can only come from the kids, themselves, with careful guidance from concerned adults. 

    • Chelsea Sargent

       This is a good question. It is both men and women who are a part of a culture and perpetuating the cultural beliefs and behaviors.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ryan.briscoe.169 Ryan Pb

    It is not just women that are shamed in this way. However, there are more of them.

  • http://profiles.google.com/rickevans033050 Rick Evans

    If explicit sex involving minors is happening on Facebook why don’t the feds hit Facebook with child porn charges. Knock a few billion$ off the portfolio of the Zuck and get attention of the little dictator of Zuckbergistan’s attention.

  • MarthaARB

    Temitayo….Thank you so much for your thoughtful and intelligent research which raises fundamental questions about who we are and our relationships with one another as human beings.  Please keep asking your questions, and exploring this sad area of bullying and exploitation.  You have opened my eyes to something we should talk about in a national discussion.  Your fresh and original inquiry rips down the curtains that hide what’s going on today, and shines light on the corruption and shame.

  • Human898

    Look at our cultures, where narcissistic behavior, greed, machismo, vengeance and power, all things that contribute to inconsiderate and disrespectful behavior become dominate in certain eras in societies around the world.  

    While so many claim to believe in the teachings of mutual respect and love of the tenets of their religions and “god(s)”entities, many in many ways, act in a manner that is the opposite of highly valued human virtues.    They then pass this blantant disrespect for their fellow human beings on to their children.

  • http://www.facebook.com/valerie.spain.1 Valerie Spain

    I would sincerely like to see kids who are involved with this, both perpetrators and victims, educated NOT incarcerated. Locking up and frightening (mostly) young men will not stop the problem–making people take ownership of their behavior and learn deeply that this is hurtful, as well as giving victims a way to speak up, would go so much further to change what’s happening. Also, we can’t blame young people for learning from the adult behavior they see all over the place–from politics to advertisements!

    • robertsjackson

      VAlerie–  Thanks for this.  Do you have any comment on my post above on cyberwarfare — I intend to suggest something short of incarceration, etc., yet that gives “victims a way to speak up.” 
        

  • Human898

    I wouldn’t say it’s just kids who do not seem to be able to fully grasp the consequences that go along with their decisions.   Look at the “just peachy” shape of the world.

    Greed unfortunately drives people to do anything, regardless of moral and virtuous value.    Money also drives protection from moral condemnation of human disrespect for other humans as well as drives laissez-faire attitudes about legal prosecution.   Laws are one thing, cultural beliefs and attitudes are another.   Laws don’t work well without being placed in a society that also stirves for high civil, humane and human virtuous values.   Corruption is all about payoffs to look the other way or monetary gain and profit outweighing the cost to what some seem to consider “expendable” human beings.

  • Human898

    I agree Valerie, I believe while we teach many things in society about survival, in some cases to be greedy and individualistic and “self-reliant” without any civil and humane guidelines, we don’t seem to be able to instill a solid “ethic of reciprocity” in young people where before doing something, they think about being in the position of those they are about to do something to.   “Ethics of reciprocity” have been expressed across human history and in many different cultures as universal sage values, coming from many bases, practical or religious.   It simply asks all human beings to ask themselves if they would like to be in the position of their victims or basically if they would like others to treat them with respect and suggest that if people want to be treated with respect, they offer the same to others by way of mutual interest.   There are many easy and practical ways to teach this.     One merely has to get children to take roles and act them out with supervision and certainly using easily translatable metaphoric examples, by no means the actual acts spoken of, even if they might be discussed and used to question children if they would like to be treated in the manner some of them have demonstrated they have treated others.

  • Human898

    Yes, so many born to life still go starving, because societies still see them as too expensive to care for once born or as a means of making a profit.

  • MarkKnoeller

    Are there not laws that address our identity rights? Don’t the girls in this case should have rights controlling these images?

  • hennorama

    Part of this is due to the “Pornification of America.”  Porn is widely available and easily accessible for free.  Sex tapes have been used by some to become celebrities with no other discernible talent.  The list is so extensive that no example is even needed.

    Children and teens often see this as just a normal part of American life and society.  Combine the easy ability to record still images and video with man’s inherent ability to be inhuman to man, and it’s no surprise that this phenomenon exists, even (perhaps especially) among the youngest members of society.

    The “Pornification of America” now extends to males and females mimicking behavior they’ve seen in pornography, and acting out over-the-top sex scenes.  This is viewed by the participants as both normal and expected behavior.  Yet it can be unsettling to both parties, who are often both turned on and repulsed by porn imagery.

    Technological change has seemingly outpaced our ability to both cope with and adjust to these issues.

  • http://www.facebook.com/futo.buddy Futo Buddy

    bullying is not a new thing whats new is that a digital record is created of it.

    • Yobo2

      Yes, that is the point. You’d think all this technology would also mean we were more socially advanced. This story just goes to show that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Sad.

      • http://www.facebook.com/futo.buddy Futo Buddy

        technology evolves much faster than people

  • Mike_Card

    “Oxtrasized?”  This is what is considered good on-air journalism?

    • Josiah Vanvliet

      She is 16, cut the lady some slack. 

      • Mike_Card

        And “cut her some slack” on her presentation of facts, too?

        • http://twitter.com/WiseSoph Sophia T

          Feel free to post YOUR nationally featured journalism. 

          • Mike_Card

            I forgot–everybody gets a trophy nowadays.  My articles are up there, if you can read.

          • GumDrGooby

            I believe that she is considered a ‘rookie’. This an inner city kid that put together a well thought out, fairly comprehensive piece. I think her slighting of the language is not as important as what she did and how she did it. College English will fix the grammar, but the natural ability for reporting and for having enough passion about an issue to actually do something can’t be taught, IMHO.

    • Yobo2

      We rightly overlook such minor pronunciation errors in young people (because we know that with gentle correction and encouragement, they will learn and improve their skills).

      We also overlook such things when the story’s content is as important as this one is – and when we reflect on the huge risk this reporter is taking in order to bring the details to us.

  • Josiah Vanvliet

    I think that there are two things here that didn’t get brought up in the discussion. One is that this behavior is clearly just cover for boys to excuse themselves from wanting to look at their naked classmates. And further that the some of girls doing the shaming are jealous of the “sluts” having sex, and thus projecting their own shame about what they wish they want to be doing.  

  • quinlandk

    Child pornography is child pornography. Maybe if we actually charged these kids, boys and/or girls, they would get a clue. I have worked at a high school for 10 years. By actually punishing the students we have seen a decline in this behavior. A night in jail and 10 days suspension. Plus we made the kids go to an assembly about cyber bullying and sexting. They hated it!! We threaten another assembly if they go back to their old ways. Hahaha
     

  • L_Ardt

    Anytime someone is put in a sexual situation that they did not consent to it is rape.  
    Putting a sexual picture online of anyone without consent should be called cyber rape.  Anyone who puts a sexual picture online without the subjects consent should face a criminal punishment, the same they would if they sexually assaulted a classmate in any other situation.  This is rape!

  • robertsjackson

    I advise teenagers who have been attacked with cyberbullying to refuse victimhood.  Fight back. Use cyberwarfare.  Invent tools. Organize.  Brainstorm.  Include adults as useful, including lawyers if necessary. Create cyber weapons.  EXAMPLE:  Post picture of a person who has taken secret compromising photo of you and posted it on the web without your knowledge or consent.  Add language such as:  “DANGER.  Do not trust this person.  I trusted him/her and he/she betrayed me.  Contact me before trusting this person.  UNRELIABLE PERSON SHOWN HERE.

  • mbellafiore

    Can we put pressure on Facebook to not allow underage postings? Threaten mass cancellation???

    • hippoguy

      they will just lie about their ages same as always. in smoking and alcohol they have to show ID. This is not as easy on line.

  • Heliman206b

    Amazing reporting! Excellent radio broadcast! This is one of the most important issues that we must deal with as a generation. How we handle this will define our culture as one that either facilitates hatred or promotes respect. Enforcing and possibly creating new laws is clearly necessary but it must also be addressed at a cultural level. It would be great to have a space for educating young people who may have a distorted view of themselves or a distorted view of others, which might address many of these issues at their core.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1372136583 Laura McLean

    What an amazing young woman Temitayo is! Thank you! I am going to ask all the young people in my life to listen to this.
    And parents, school staff: listen to the kids, and be honest with the kids.

  • http://www.facebook.com/adelaide.maisy Adelaide Maisy

    Racist comments, comments about skin, color, weight as well as nationality amounts to bullying and these bullies are
    nothing but psychos who need medical help. At home, I use a free app called Qustodio to monitor who my girl talks to on facebook as the app allows me to watch the profile pictures of accounts she interacts with. My way of ensuring that she stays safe. Just Google for it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VAHYC547SWDI7C2T4DGF5DTMN4 Diana

    I haven’t read all of the comments, but did anyone think to tell these girls that maybe they shouldn’t do things that they don’t want publicly exhibited? 

    • Chelsea Sargent

       Young women are going to explore their sexuality. Sometimes they are photographed without knowing that they are being photographed. People have sex. Teenagers will have sex. Don’t blame the victim.

  • hdesignr

    There should be a focus on the root causes of this happening. The media is the main thing that influences today’s youth. The images they see, the storylines they watch in cinema and film, the music they listen to. This needs to be addressed.

    • Chelsea Sargent

      This is way beyond media. We have a culture that devalues women and has issues with their sexuality. The media is a new form of an underlying cultural situation.

      • hdesignr

        The media helps define a culture, especially in today’s age. It needs to be addressed.

  • Michele

    Temitayo Rocks!  I hope that you continue on as a journalist because you have amazing insight and empathy.  Thank you for your bravery and insight!

  • http://twitter.com/allen2saint allen 2saint

    Temitayo, I am a fan!

    Not to sound like an old person, but is this not an hour long commercial for parenting? Parent your kids! Give them some real self esteem! Create a family! What is the internet but an opportunity for children to create their own Lord of the Flies scenario? They don’t think like or reason like adults and if we give them the keys to their own world, then we, adults, are to blame. 

    • Yobo2

      Great post. I would also add that part of good parenting is taking a stand against the role models, media images and other cultural attitudes pedalled to sell products that end up shaping young kids in unhealthy ways. There’s so much that is unhealthy for kids. (For adults too!) It’s up to parents and other adults to stop the onslaught. 

  • http://twitter.com/allen2saint allen 2saint

    Also, is this not a huge commercial about how we raise men? Young men posting sexual images of women they know? Of course it is malicious! My little nephew’s ideas are warped by all the music and entertainment industry’s images of women. OK, so it’s digital. Human nature is still the same.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002355053321 Ping Eye Hacker

    I never thought I’d be glad to have gone through school in the 80s, but I am now. At least back then, many kids had some refuge from bullying when not at school. Now it’s 24/7 in the internet age. 

  • S A. Fasciani

    Hello Tom
    When you guest is interviewing the student who posted a video of his girlfriend he replies to the effect “porn websites do it everyday”. To this you replied “he has a point”.  Let me correct you as you seem to have made a error in judgment. He does not have a point! When someone post an intimate video on the internet of a young girl who has not given her consent to do so he should be prosecuted and jailed!  
    Porn stars are paid to do this and the give their consent. 
    Wake up people these are our children. 

  • Yobo2

    Many boys (and some grown men) think sex is something men do *to* girls/women, that it’s an act of dominance. The most extreme example of it is in cases of rape, but this dominance thing happens in more subtle ways too. Boys (who these days are growing up on a daily diet of hardcore porn) are less likely than adult men to know that there are different kinds of sex, and that it can be something men and women *share.* They seem to think that if a boy has sex with a girl, then he has “won” (i.e. he has asserted his dominance over her). I think a lot of people think like this, though they may be unaware of it.

    Our movies & tv shows never depict this sex-as-an-expression-of-male-dominance dynamic (except in rape scenes); instead, they show sexy women as having the power to entice men or control men.  Teenage girls, then, think that if they act out their sexuality, they will be seen as powerful. Or they’re just doing what comes naturally, and they are unaware of the double standard — many young girls have no idea that some people think girls/women should feel ashamed of their female sexuality. They don’t know that if they exhibit too much of their sexuality then many people will automatically lose respect for them. So they find out the hard way, and it can be devastating.

    I don’t think the answer is to teach these girls to hide away their sexuality, like in the pre-feminist era. Instead, I think the better solution is to address the sex-as-dominance attitudes of so many men (and the double standard held by many boys, men and even girls & women).

  • Regular_Listener

    I haven’t finished listening to Prof. Citron’s comments, but I would like to say that I thoroughly disagree with her.  Yes, cyber bulling and posting sexual content are problems that do need to be dealt with.  But she calls for police and law enforcement involvement in what are interpersonal problems, and not rightfully an area for criminal law.  People like her probably have some super PC vision of a world in which everyone’s unpleasant words or deeds are the grounds for arrest and prosecution, particularly anything that is at all offensive to a woman or someone who is not heterosexual.  She would probably like to see people like herself in charge of this process.  But I say watch out – if we follow Citron and make unpleasant or disturbing speech illegal, then we are doing two very wrong things: increasing government involvement in personal life to an unprecedented degree, and creating the grounds for people like Citron to be jailed and prosecuted when the winds of fashion change and people like her are deemed abusive.  She may be a law professor, but I think she needs a little tutelage on the subject of freedom of expression.  No doubt the Nazis and Soviets would have found a lot of uses for the kind of system she would like to see.

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