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Measuring Hope And Change

We’re measuring hope and change four years after Denver and Obama’s first nomination.  Taking the Democrat’s pulse as the party gathers.

Shepard Fairey's 2008 poster of Barack Obama.

Shepard Fairey’s 2008 poster of Barack Obama.

Four years ago, it was all over the moon for Democrats.  They didn’t know yet, in September, if they’d win the White House.  But they knew they were making history.  Barack Obama was like no candidate before him.

And to top it all, his message, his literal bumper sticker, was hope and change.  Words so sweet that when Sarah Palin mocked them it didn’t matter.  She did get it, said Democrats.  The earth was moving.  Hope and change. Now it’s four years on.  A tough four years.

This hour, On Point:  We talk with Democrats, and more, about hope and change and Barack Obama.

-Tom Ashbrook

Guests

Laura Washington, columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times.

John Harwood, chief Washington correspondent for CNBC and a columnist at the New York Times.

Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, Democratic U.S. Representative for Missouri’s 5th Congressional District.

From Tom’s Reading List

New York Times “Through three nights of gauzy videos, sentimental testimonials and, finally, his own address to the nation Thursday, Mitt Romney worked hard to show he has a heart.”

Washington Post “Mitt Romney made one thing very clear during his speech at the Republican National Convention on Thursday night: He’s happy to run against President Obama in 2012, but he’s even happier to run against the Barack Obama of 2008.”

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  • Mike_Card

    I hoped for change, but Obama turned out to be a darker-complected Dubya.  The only thing worse would be Romney.

    • Shag_Wevera

      Voting 3rd party then?

      • Mike_Card

        We could use a Ross Perot this year; someone to dilute the teabagger funhouse.

    • J__o__h__n

      Romney would not just be worse, he would be far worse.  Bush proved he was much worse than Gore would have been.  And spineless Mitt will be pushed around by an even more extremist House of Representatives than Bush had to work with.

  • Ed75

    The pulse is weak.

    • DrewInGeorgia

      Almost as weak as your comment.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alan.gignoux Alan Gignoux

    I agree that Obama has not fulfilled the hopes and aspirations that we all hoped for in the audacity of hope. remember, it took  FDR 15 years to get his agenda through congress. I have never known so much hatred towards an individual let alone a President as you see from the Republicans whose sole purpose is to destroy Obama although what are they offering?
    I worked for a British news organisation and we were working on a documentary on the rise of the right in the United States. We interviewed a congressman from Texas concerning Obama’s industrial plan for the American mid west. It was a good plan based on renewable energy. It could have created US$ one trillion in revenues for the US Treasury and a million jobs over a quarter century.

    The reply from the Texan Congressman, “We are here to destroy Barak Hussein Obama” (you could not have met a more pompous, arrogant, well, generally unpleasant human being) I have seen british frontline politics but his certainly takes the cake!.

    I would say to the Republicans, stop throwing your toys out of the cot and come and play. 

    • William

       Is your documentary going to discuss the British movie “Death of a President” and compare it to the recently released “2016 Obama’s America” documentary about Obama? Sort of a Liberal movie vs a Conservative movie about a sitting President.

      • DrewInGeorgia

        D’Souza is delusional…and dangerous. Ignorance is contagious.

        • William

           I have not seen 2016 yet, but from what I read he used Obama’s own words from his books etc…and historical records.

          • DrewInGeorgia

            Half-Truths are still Half-Lies. You know as well as I do that anyone with enough determination and willful ignorance can bend almost anything to their will for propagandist purposes. Too bad most of us are unwilling to do the leg-work required to untangle Big Ol’ Balls of BS.

          • WorriedfortheCountry

            Are you referring to Obama’s own words as ‘half truths and half lies’?

            That is the strength of 2016 — it simply exposes Obama’s own words to the spotlight.

          • William

             Like Michael Moore? He is a darling of the Left but his movies are a bit far-fetched.

    • WorriedfortheCountry

       Hey Alan, do you have a link to that ‘plan’?

      Obama spent $80B on renewables in the stimulus alone and has very little to show for that huge expenditure.

  • Shag_Wevera

    I just “hope” that if Romney wins, democrats will vow 4 years of utter stonewalling and non-cooperation.  An attitude of reconciliation, though mature and logical, also would serve to make the democrats chumps after 4 years of conservative intransigence.

  • Mouse_2012

    Obama pushed many of the Bush’s Policies in regards to his Foreign Policies. In some cases he extended them, hired many of the same people who took the country down and has passed even more tax cuts and extended the Bush Tax Cuts.  Yet some on the Right keep claiming he’s some radical Liberal (not the moderate republicans his actions have shown)

  • Mouse_2012

    And even still obama is still better than Romney/Ryan. Who the filp flopping Romney has already sold out to the extremist of his party. Obama instead ditched much of his base. 

  • Ed75

    The BBC said that instead of ‘Hope and Change’ it’s ‘Fear and more of the same’. One difference is deficits, they don’t seem to bother the president, but they concern the Republicans. Please see 2016.

    • Mouse_2012

      2016 is a racist and slanderous piece of junk. The movies promotes  the “birther” claims while trying to claims it’s a documentary.

      Also please cite the BBC link your talking about.

      • Ed75

        The BBC comment was on this morning.

        To be honest, the movie 2016 doesn’t mention the birther issue. It brings up a more serious problem: it places the president not in the American political tradition of Republican or Democrat but in the African anti-colonialist tradition of his father. In this tradition the West is to blame, is wrong. One of his half-brothers is interviewed in the film.

        And if he’s re-elected, he will not have to worry about re-election, and will pursue his more radical ideas, which are delineated in the film.

        • Shag_Wevera

          If he is SO anti-colonial, why did he increase our presence in Afghanistan?

        • J__o__h__n

          The father he didn’t know?  The half-family that the Republicans love to point out he doesn’t send money to? 

        • Mouse_2012

          Must of missed the bbc piece was it the bbc hourly news?

          “anti-colonialist tradition” is birther code word. He interviews Daniel Pipes who believes and has written that Obama is a secret muslims.

          Please tell me you don’t believe that crap movie?

        • Mouse_2012

          Also I listen to the bbc hourly news and found nothing of what you said and went to the website and found nothing as well.

          Here’s the link to the bbc

          http://www.bbc.com/news/world/us_and_canada/

          bbc hourly news
          http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p002vsnk

        • jimino

          A dispassionate analysis would indicate that Barack Hussein Obama is the third-most right wing president since WWII, behind only “W” and Reagan. 

        • Mike_Card

          That’s sick.

      • Gregg Smith

        That’s sick.

        • Shag_Wevera

          What’s sick?

          • Gregg Smith

            The baseless charge of racism.

        • Mouse_2012

          Dinesh D’Souza is a sick man

      • http://twitter.com/ipswichjonesy jonesp

         Save your money on 2016… it is slanderous, just like most of Paul Ryan’s speeches.

    • J__o__h__n

      Since when have deficits genuinely concerned the Republicans?  Cheney said that “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”  Clinton left a surplus which Bush squandered on tax cuts and wars.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/JXSANCUDPIKQSPID5KT2U4XK5Y TF

        Deficits only mattered to them once a black Democrat was elected to the White House.

    • DrewInGeorgia

      Please DON’T see 2016. If your intention is to fund continued self-delusion, however, your dollars probably couldn’t be better spent.

    • Mouse_2012

      Roeper: Fear and loathing in ‘2016: Obama’s America’
      http://www.suntimes.com/news/roeper/14831333-452/the-fears-and-loathing-in-2016-obamas-america.html

      As D’Souza tells us how Jackson claims racism is still prevalent but in more subtle forms, we see staged footage of a young black man walking into a tavern and sitting between two white guys, who instantly get up and leave. The tough-looking characters shooting pool, the other patrons of the bar — they want nothing to do with the black man.
      But wait. Turns out the two guys that left their stools had gone into the kitchen to fetch a cake. It’s the black guy’s birthday! Everyone in the bar applauds as the cake is presented to him.
      Wait, what?

      As the Associated Press has pointed out, D’Souza talks about Obama returning a bust of Winston Churchill to the British as if it were an act of disrespect to our ally, even though the bust was on loan to the Bush administration and was scheduled to be returned. The film also faults Obama for the escalation of the national debt (certainly true) but fails to mention the Bush administration’s role in that escalation; claims Obama is sympathetic to jihadists in Pakistan and Afghanistan but never mentions the killing of Osama bin Laden, and paints slanted, incomplete pictures of Obama’s views on the Falklands and Iran’s nuclear ambitions.
      D’Souza’s movie is equal parts anti-Obama infomercial, fear-mongering screed and psychoanalysis from afar. Traveling to Hawaii, Kenya and Indonesia, interviewing like-minded academics and a few fringe figures from Obama’s past, D’Souza pushes his theory that Obama is an anti-American, anti-colonialist whose father is the dominant guiding force in his life.

  • Mouse_2012

    Worth noting though is the Obama WH has been avoiding going to war with Iran unlike the Romney Camp who has nearly all the same people in the Bush Administration who are openly pushing for War. The odd thing is that this time around we have the media and congress(thanks to the likud lobby) is pushing for war while the WH is trying to be cautious. Even if all of Romney’s Plans somehow worked if he got elected, going to war with Iran would wipe all that out and dramatically increase the price of gas.  

    • William

       But Obama went to war against Libya so why should we think he won’t attack Iran if he gets a second term?

      • Shag_Wevera

        If you consider the Libyan action a war, then we must also be at war with Yemen and Pakistan and countless other countries we have overflown and struck since 9/11.

        • William

           You could say if attacking targets in Yemen, Pakistan, Libya make the Reagan attacks against Nicaragua ok, same with Nixon’s invasion of Cambodia. I would rather see a President get Congressional approval before going to war.

          • Mike_Card

            Congress have been sitting on their collective thumbs for more than 70 years.  Now, they can’t remember which one to suck on and which one to sit on.

          • Shag_Wevera

            William, on congressional approval for war we agree!

      • Mouse_2012

        As I stated, it’s the media and congress pushing for war with Iran the WH to it’s credit has been trying to avoid this. As for Libya the Republicans complained that Obama didn’t act fast enough.

    • DogOnARocket

      Exactly. And to ‘increase the price of gas’ is one of the main objectives of a few very large corporations.  War is an excellent tool for accomplishing a few specific objectives, one being accumulating even more wealth and control for the few. We must be very suspicious of the “America” and ”our children” and “more money in yer pocket” phrases tumbling out of the mouths of certain politicians who are desperate to keep control of the little guy and further the missions of the big businesses funding their runs for office. It’s a psychological, as well as political, game. 

  • Gregg Smith

    “Hope and Change” is the meaningless slogan of a bumper sticker President. 

    • Shag_Wevera

      Kinda like “Restore Amerika”.  Remember compassionate conservatism?  How about “Morning in America”.  What do any of them really mean?  All just silly plattitudes.  Lots of folks can’t digest anything more than a one-liner.

    • http://twitter.com/ipswichjonesy jonesp

       Too glib an answer … bumper sticker space limits specifics which by the way are not given at all by Mr. Romney…
      he can’t give too many or he would contradict too many of his past actions.

    • LinRP

      “Myth Romney” should be his.

    • WorriedfortheCountry

       I saw a bumper sticker in NH the other day.

      LOL!   -  where the O was the Obama campaign logo.

      Simple and to the point.

    • DogOnARocket

      Hope and Change was, and is, a heartfelt vision. It was, and is, made visible with the face of Barack Obama, his beautiful family, their challenges, courage, and intelligence. Hope stands with Faith, against all odds, with all that is good. Change results from that Hope and that Faith. And Change is life. When any creature, idea, nation, person rails against change, it is dying. Life is a process. Life is learning and making hard choices in order to be better.

  • Michiganjf

    Look back at the earliest of my comments, WELL BEFORE President Obama was even elected.

    The economic fiasco begun by years of backward Republican policies and finished off by Bush “reduce tax-yet-spend” policies left us in such a state that I was writing (IN THIS FORUM) that the U.S. economy would be doomed for a decade, if indeed, it would EVER recover… many others were writing the exact same thing.

    Now, four short years later, America has one of the most hopeful economies on the planet (China’s outlook is now somewhat questionable), despite the rest of the world economy still dragging us down.

    Yes, the new realities of corporate America still mean less jobs for everyone, meaning many are still jobless, but I’m AMAZED we’re doing as well as we are.

    I thank President Obama for the progress, which he has accomplished DESPITE Republican obnoxiousness and intransigence.

    Republicans and the global economy have done everything possible to hold our economy back, yet we’re STILL doing better than almost any other country on the planet… Thanks President Obama!

    • William

       Obama extended Bush tax cuts and started his own by taking money out of Social Security for pay roll tax cuts. Also, spending has not been reduced. What progress has Obama made if he is using the same policies that Bush used?

      • Michiganjf

        SPENDING HAS BEEN REDUCED!

        Bush left the yearly deficit at 1.4 trillion/year, Obama will end this year with a 1.1 trillion deficit, AND THIS DESPITE THE RECESSION AND REDUCED REVENUES!!!

        • Mouse_2012

          Many forget that the yearly 1.2-1.4 deficit would have been happen under obama or Mccain. I believe it was actually 1.2. trillion and all of obama actions have added 200 billion(far cry from the republican claims of adding trillions). Yet the Feds spent over a trillion in QE1 and QE2 backing bad bank loans and giving free money to the banks. Also the Feds also backed 13 trillion in bets made by the banks as well.

          Yet one rarely hears of outcries about the Fed spending and backing banks on with the exception of the Ron Paul Crowd.

          • Michiganjf

            Here’s a link, by a CONSERVATIVE website, showing the 1.4 trillion left by Bush to be a conservative estimate!

            Remember! … 2009 was the last year under a completely BUSH budget!

            A very little bit of Googling a few sources will leave you closer to the 1.4 trillion/year I cited.

            Here’s the link:

            http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

          • William

            Obama signed the 2009 budget. It was his handwork.

          • Michiganjf

            LOL!!!!!!!!!

            Clueless!!

            Draw out that timeline for us, genius!!

          • William

             OB signed it March 11 2009. Loaded with ear marks. He owns it.

          • Michiganjf

            You boneheads always like it both ways… “Obama and the Dems have never provided their own budget,” yet somehow Obama miraculously drew up a budget and enacted it before he even had a chance to sit down in the Oval Office.

            Get a brain, or at least a little integrity!!!!

          • Mouse_2012

            I stand corrected.

            Thanks for the link

          • DogOnARocket

            Yes, Michiganjf, and, though I don’t want to go back to this, we can consider how much the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld Iraq Unnecessary War cost us and how rich it made some private companies.

    • Michiganjf

      BTW, if China falls, the world will REALLY be screwed!!

      GOD HELP US if any Republican is President in that eventuality!!!

      WE NEED PRESIDENT OBAMA!!

    • DogOnARocket

      I’m an overjoyed newcomer to this site. Yes, there are differences of opinion. But I’m glad to see commenters like Michiganjf and so many others speaking up for a President, Barack Obama, who has had to navigate impossible political, economical, and social landscapes, in the midst of, I believe, unprecedented self-interest, deceit, childish ranting and raving and disrespect. The good that President Obama represents, the good that he hopes to extend to all persons, is exactly what upsets Big Money and makes Romney and Ryan shake in their expensive shoes.    

  • Cary Bradley

    Recovery
    Act helped us keep COBRA after losing 30-year job and helped us insure
    our family of 4 until we got new jobs with insurance. Also my niece was
    able to buy 1st home with $8000 First Time Buyer grant in a not
    attractive Southern California market, and now she is happy homeowner
    and taxpayer! ACA allowed us to insure our 23-yo job hunter, and now
    she has found great job with benefits! Long live Obama/Biden! America
    Hooray!!!

  • Michiganjf

    Tom,

       You’ve spent the last few years presenting hundreds of HOURS of analysis about ALL THE COMPLEXITIES that have resulted in the economic downturn, aside from Republican/Obama politics!

    How about some HONEST perspective on the things with which President Obama has had to contend to keep our country afloat???!!!

  • gala1

    uhm, this is not what we are listening to.
    we’re on wbfo in buffalo and we got the archived show, at 11am

  • gala1

    ah, nevermind, 7pm!

  • TomK_in_Boston

    4 years ago we weren’t sure if it was 1929 all over again. How soon we forget! We are a hell of a lot better off than we were with the financial criminals running around like chickens with their heads cut off and 750,000 jobs vanishing in one month. How can anyone ask?

    Yes, President Obama has been too timid in taking the actions needed for a stronger recovery. The stimulus had a big role in stopping the free fall but it was way too small and weakened by too much tax cutting and too little spending. This is a combination of him being basically a centrist “Rockefeller republican” type and the vicious, disloyal opposition to everything he tries.

    Regardless, the election is a choice, and I’m not choosing thermonuclear class warfare by a ticket headed by a member of the class that wrecked the economy, the financial con men.

    • hennorama

      It is truly amazing that people so easily and quickly forget how close we were to complete economic collapse in 2008.

      To me, that is actually a testament to the success of Pres. Obama’s administration’s efforts in stemming the losses and turning things around.  While it is true that the economic situation is far from perfect, we are massively better off than what was happening during 2008 and the beginning of 2009.

  • http://twitter.com/Jtaylorvt John Taylor

    I remember watching Obama’s face as he sat in with Bush and his economic team in 2008.  I thought then that if I were him I’d leave that room and tell the reporters ‘Let McCain have it – these guys have screwed the pooch here.”

    Sure he’s not been tough on the criminal bankers and been too conciliatory to the GOP while they’ve shafted him but at least he’s stayed in the game and tried.

    • TomK_in_Boston

      Right – and the GoP is offering more of what led to him sitting in that room. Crazy!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GYOKNNUKGSRTSA4RNFMUJRO5WE Greg

    Does anyone know a station that is playing the Hope and Change show?

    Why is OnPoint on the radio suddenly not matching up with the website? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1155042916 Mike Hanson

    “I will be held accountable. You know, I’ve got four years. A year from now, I think people are gonna see that we’re starting to make some progress, but there’s still gonna be some pain out there. If I don’t this done in three years, then there’s gonna be a one-term proposition” – Barack Obama

    Nice knowing you Mr President … now, as you predicted, its time to pack your bags and get back to Chicago. 

    • TomK_in_Boston

      You prefer class warfare and doubling down on what caused the bush crash?

      • WorriedfortheCountry

         Please explain the ‘doubling down on what caused the Bush crash’.

        1) Tax reform —  there is zero nexus between the crash and Bush tax cuts.  Further, Romney/Ryan want tax simplification not a return to Bush tax policy.  In fact, their proposal is very similar to the reforms of Simpson-Bowles.  The primary difference is the the amount of new revenue.  Both plans tear up the horrible 74,000 page tax code.

        2) The two regulations that had direct causation to the crash was the repeal of Glass-Steagall AND the CRA.  Both were done under Clinton and both had bi-partisan support.  Bush tried (maybe you could argue weakly) to reign in over lending by the banks but was blocked by the Pelosi-Reid congress.

        Dodd-Frank did NOTHING about too big to fail and did nothing to restore Glass-Steagall.

        • TomK_in_Boston

          Why do you care who did the deregulation? – the RR boys want more of it. I don’t.

          There is a connection between tax cuts and the crash. The lower the top rates, the greater the incentive to play the financial casino.

          What’s with the obsession for tax “simplification”? It wd be nice, but it’s hardly pressing. What we need is higher rates at the top and more revenue. “Simplification” is a smoke screen for cuts. RR will cut taxes – that’s easy – and then it will be “Oops, sorry, we really couldn’t find enough loopholes to close, guess we’ll have to “reform entitlements” some more.”

          • WorriedfortheCountry

             No surprise but I disagree with your analysis.  Also, I thought you were applying Obama’s blame Bush for the downturn argument.

            We need tax reform to reduce compliance costs.  Maybe we need new revenue but there is a tradeoff between new revenue and economic growth.  Growth has to be the primary goal.

            btw -  Obama’s plan to stiff the rich — the centerpiece of his campaign an next term agenda — pays for exactly one week of deficit.  That isn’t a plan but a campaign gimmick.

            The RR boys want smart regulation.  Not bureaucratic bloat.  Glass-Steagall was only 30 pages.  Romney said he will measure the cost of any regulation. A true cost benefit analysis.   Dodd-Frank and SarBox never would have passed in their current form with that standard applied.

    • StilllHere

      Liar ‘n chief!  I am no longer proud to be an American!

  • MadMarkTheCodeWarrior

    History shows us that we could not expect an overnight recovery. History warned those of us that were listening that this would take more than four years.

    Clueless wonders refuse to acknowledge that the very policies that they propose to go back to were the basis of our economic state: Randian Laissez-faire (non)governance, in other words, deregulation through non-enforcement let the foxes guard the hen house – and the hens got slaugtered. Tax cuts for the wealthy and loopholes favoring corporate outsourcing of jobs have hurt a great deal as well.

    Not understanding that these major factors at the heart of our economic failure were their policies, and refusing to acknowledge their duplicity in watering down our economic recovery, all they have to offer up is tax cuts for the wealthy, deregulation and austerity that has pushed Europe into a double dip recession.

    To expect a better outcome is from the new Republican ‘plan’ is insane. It’s nothing more than the Devil’s arithmetic presented by two clean cut guys who propose to lead us with plans based upon lies.

    • DogOnARocket

      Well said, MadMark. Thank you.

    • WorriedfortheCountry

       No, Reagan showed us we can have a V shaped recovery.  Also, Reagan had the stagflation problem to overcome.

  • StilllHere

    higher unemployment
    higher unemployment recipients
    longer unemployment
    lower labor force participation
    higher underemployment
    higher disability recipients
    higher food stamp recipients
    higher personal bankruptcies
    higher foreclosures

    yeah, count me in for another four years of this

    • http://twitter.com/Ziljan_Vega Logan

      Why is that Republicans blame Obama for the mistakes of the previous 8 years of bank deregulation, and yet they give Reagan credit for the “delayed effect” during the Clinton Era of Prosperity even though G.H.Bush was in for four lame years in between Clinton and Reagan?  Talk about Voodoo economics!!

      Can’t we find some common ground?

      We all agree that banks caused the collapse right?  Can’t we also agree that the solution involoves enforcing the existing banking regulation and putting tighter controls on the wild wallstreet gambling that is still happening under our noses?   And if this is true, do you honestly believe that Romney is going to be tougher on Banksters than Obama will be?  I think they’ll both be too soft really, but the middle class has a much better chance of surviving the comming economic pitfalls without yet another crony capitalist in the whitehouse.

      • StilllHere

        Way too simplistic.  A glut of savings in Asia was as much to blame as anything. 

        The question was are you better off?  The answer is clear for millions.

        • Mike_Card

          That’s sick.

          • StilllHere

            I’m sorry if everything you know came from John Stewart, but life’s a little more complicated than that twit thinks.

          • Mike_Card

            Bush/Cheney started two wars because China had too much money??  I’m def better off now that Bush/Cheney are hiding out in parts unknown.

          • http://twitter.com/Ziljan_Vega Logan

            So your brilliant idea is that Obama is to blame for China saving too much? And China saving too much means they weren’t buying american products?  Surely your chalk board conspiracy theory is more likely than the banks halting credit due to making risky loans and credit default swap schemes…  thank you for educating my simplistic mind. LOL.

            Ever heard of Occam’s Razor?

          • christophertwood

            What’s wrong with sources (Stewart and Colbert) that offer FACTS? Your dependence on factless points and argumentum ad hominem offer nothing. 

  • http://twitter.com/Ziljan_Vega Logan

    The republican political machine threw the last presidential election so they wouldn’t have to claim responsibility for the consequences of their deregulatory scams.  Meanwhile Obama & Co. are left to pick of the pieces, take the heat, and do the heavy lifting while the republicans drag their feet & obstruct to make sure the nothing meaningful gets done. Thus making Obama look like a “do nothing” president who failed to pick up after the rich kids’ mess. 

    I think Obama could have pushed harder on certain issues, but honestly I think he’s doing the best job he can without rocking the boat as much as JFK or MLK did in their time.  I’m sure he is well aware that there are alot of angry gun totting yahoos out there who wouldn’t mind being the patsy for entrenched interest groups who will not abide boat-rockers.

  • Bill Janis

    What happened to hour 2?  Kathleen Turner?  Where did THAT come from? 

  • WorriedfortheCountry

    Here is Obama’s first attempt to implement Hope and Change and remove the divisiveness in Washington.

    “we won, you lost” Barack Obama 2009.

    • Mike_Card

      Get used to it.

  • DogOnARocket

    Hope and change was the message, and President Obama delivered!  We have seen more clearly in the last four years the criminals who have manipulated and deceived members of the Republican Party. We have seen how these same criminals were responsible for the melt-down of the economy, the crumbling of the middle-class, the increase in numbers, and increased burden upon, the neediest of people in our society, the sinful mentality and motives of so many hard-hearted and selfish members of the most powerful and wealthy upper class. These revelations are what give us hope for the future. One must first SEE the problem before one can fix it. We have also seen a brilliant, compassionate, logical, virtuous, courageous man of vision lead this country with a steady, strong hand through one of the worst times this country has known.  Not one other person could have stayed focused and productive the way Barack Obama has in the midst of domestic and world crises. Imagine a John McCain or a Mitt Romney handling these complex monumental problems with such careful consideration and intelligence. It’s laughable. Add to that the fact that Mr. Obama is a black man. Yes, he has had to withstand the hatred and personal attacks of many Americans simply because he is not white. Race is alive and well! Where are the voices of the Democratic party in all of this? Where are the president’s so-called supporters? They are either sitting mute in their little offices, betraying the president with their silence, or complaining on radio and tv shows that he didn’t immediately give THEM everything THEY wanted. Grow up! The hope is there. The change is coming. People must commit themselves to what is good, to the man who wants to do the best for all decent persons, for this country.   

    • mikeylong

      You can’t have Hope and Change immediately that is why Obama had to appoint Jack Lew from Citigroup as his Chief of Staff. Do you ever bother looking at Obama’s appointments: Bernenke, Geithnar, Gentler or the wonderfully talented Jack Lew? I know you love the propeganda but how do you explain the worst of Wall Street being brought into key positions. Explain that? I donated to, marched for, and defended Obama in every way. I want the “Hope and Change.” I believe in it. I just don’t think Obama believes it. 
        

  • Brandstad

    Democrats attempt to suppress their own delegates by requiring photo ID at the DNC Convention!

  • WorriedfortheCountry

    OMG.

      MA judge orders taxpayers to fund murderer prison inmate’s sex change operation.

    Nuts!!
     

    • WorriedfortheCountry

       Ew, that last word is a unintentional pun.
      Ooops.

    • christophertwood

      Distressed that you didn’t have the procedure when you were imprisoned? Shouldn’t taken that early parole for being a rat.

  • mikeylong

    “Hope and change was the message, and President Obama delivered!”  - Are you kidding me?  

    Ben Bernenke – Chair of the Fed under Bush RECONFIRMED under Obama

    Tim Geithnar – Chair of the New York Fed under Bush PROMOTED to Treasury Secretary

    Jack Lew – Obama Chief of Staff – Made millions at Citigroup selling mortgage backed securities that had to be bailed out under TARP

    William M. Daley – Obama Chief of Staff, J.P. Morgan Executive

    Gary Gensler – Commodity Future Trading Commission (GOLDMAN SACHS EXECUTIVE!!!!!)

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    Other Obama Accomplishments:

    - Fewest number or SEC prosecutions in US history (even beats Bush)

    - Explosion of Derivatives to 10 times the notional value at the peak of the housing crash including Credit Default Swaps
    Current Estimates are at 250 Trillion. Goldman Sachs has an astounding 41 Trillion in notional value alone.

    - First US President to have a major financial crisis and kill all prosecutions. Holder is off checking for hunting licenses in Alabama. Holder couldn’t prosecute a financial crime if his life depended on it.

    - Collected donations from Goldman, Citigroup, J.P. Morgan and every other scum bag he could find. 

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    The US is going into a Wall Street corruption death spiral and when the next crash hits it will kill everything in its path.

    • jimino

      Obama is the third most right-wing president since WW II, behind only “W” and Reagan.  So it’s really no surprise we are where we are. 

      The surprise is that so many see him as a socialist when he is really just following the right-wing playbook..

      • mikeylong

        Even the first Bush had 1000 prosecutions during the savings and loan crisis when William Black was head of the Office of Thrift Supervision. People will  really believe anything if they think Obama is for anything but cashing checks and kissing Jamie Dimon’s ring. I can’t believe how bad Wall Street has gotten. This has to stop.

  • WorriedfortheCountry

    US Debt has officially crossed the $16T threshold.

    Good thing the private sector is doing fine.

    Oops!!!

    • StilllHere

      It better be doing well enough to pay the gov’s debt.

    • christophertwood

      The stock market is certainly doing well in the last 3 1/2 years.

      Under 8 years of Bush the S&P 500 returned -5.1%. Even if those years were split into the two 4-year terms, the money maker’s poster child presided over a market that returned 5.6% in the first 4 years (average just 1.4% per year) 

      Under Obama
      2009 = 26.5
      2010 = 15.1
      2011 = 2.1
      2012 YTD = 14.2

      Since Wall Street doesn’t create jobs, but does create profits on investing…why are the money boyz such haters?

      • modavations

        Had the govt. taken no action “the boat would have righted itself “and we’d be two trillion ahead of the game.Nasdaq peaked at 4500ish.It’s 3000ish today.I bought the market at 7200,it sank into the 6000′s(?) and popped I made 3000 off a 20,000 bet in ten days.Watch the P/E kids,the Dow is right where it should be.
              When Bill Clinton was Pres.the Dow went from 3000ish to 4000ish(2 yrs).After Newt and the boys came in,Pres.Clinton dropped the Cap.Gains tax and the Dow went from 4000 to 10,000ish(maybe 8000ish)

        • Mike_Card

          That is nonsensical.

      • mmaaaxx

         Repeating how awful Bush was, does not make Obama better. Obama is just as bad as Bush and even worse as he destroys our liberties, kills Americans without trial, flames overseas intervention, etc. etc. etc.

    • Mouse_2012

      That’s about the same amount the Fed’s agreed to back the Banks. 

  • modavations

    Corzine,Daley(JP Morgan),Gensler(Goldman Sachs),Phil Murphy(GS),Gene Sperling(GS),James Johnson(who along with Frank Raines and J.Gorelick took Fannie for 100mill),Mark Petersen(GS),David Lippman(GS),Steve Rattner(Lehman),Rubin(Citi),Dudley(GS),Storch(GS),Eric Holder(Wall St.Bundler),Chuck Schumer(high priest of Wall St.)Peter Orzag(Citi).
            These are “All the Presidents Men”…The .05%ers.
    Is this the Hope and Change we were promised?
     
       Sorry,I forgot the Grand Poobah Berrnie Madoff(Dem.)

  • chrisrayhame

    I voted for President Obama in 2008 and I will vote for him again in 2012. He managed to get the greatest health care law passed  in history despite key Republican leaders having vowed that he would have one term before he was even inaugurated. He has tried to pass jobs bills, but they have been blocked repeatedly. He saved the auto industry, ended the war in Iraq, is ending the war in Afghanistan and many many more fine accomplishments. President Obama will show us what he is really made of in his second term. I have been more disappointed in the lack of Democratic backing of his efforts than in Republicans. This man has all of the qualities of greatness and if his own party decides to work with him he will do great things. 

  • ptiton

    I am firmly convinced that there is a concerted effort by the corporate powers to make Obama a target to “take out” by noncooperation by the private businesses that could have enabled economic improvement over the past three and a half years.  The promise and hope Obama represented was a threat to the conservative powers precisely because Obama is a moderate man not a radical. That is what is so threatening!  He is reasonable and middle of the road and sees the flaws in the corporate/conservative model of America.  His opponents have accused himof a radical apprpoach to reform and change.  They have refashioned him with their rhetoric into something he is not. 

    • Mike_Card

      Totally agree.  US businesses are sitting on 3 trillion of investable cash, but won’t.  Their PR firms are beating the drum for “uncertainity,” when that actually translates to a lack of guaranteed, no-bid contracts on a cost-plus basis, with tax benefits, to boot.

      The American economic power house was NOT built on guaranteed income–tell Bill Gates or Apple they should have held out for guarantees from the market.  True entrepreneurs feast on uncertainity, since they understand the risk/reward paradigm.

  • burroak

    Credit to President Obama; he has had to deal with many Republicans whose first priority was to make him a one-term president. How can one do so much when many are against him. It is like trying to push open a door when ten people are on the other side pushing against you. President Obama has tried to open many to doors to bring this depressed country back to better health. He has many ideas and possess the threes c’s-country: creativity, compassion, and committment. This is my opinion and many will disagree; however we are all fortunate to live in a country were political discussion, debate, and civil discourse is valued, but is one of this countries greatest assets.
     

  • ptiton

    The Republicans and the Corporate powers who fund them are apparently terrified by Obama’s message of hope whereas those of us who voted for him and understood where he was coming from did not see him as a threat but rather as someone who might possibly save this country from the greed and selfishness of those at the top who are willing to sel the rest of us down the river in their pursuit of short term profit. 

    I believe the failures of the past 4 years are the work of the opponents of his vision more than Obama’s fault. The Corporations could have worked on behalf of the nation and they have not.  Instead they have worked to stymie recovery. Jobs that the private sector might have created have been deliberately withheld

  • http://twitter.com/theBoBartlett Bo Bartlett

    Americans will not be bought. America will not elect a 1%er. Democracy is alive. Barack Obama will win this election. 

    • mmaaaxx

       haha, Barack Obama IS a 1%er!! He got rich off writing memoirs and then got many millions from banks, unions, etc, to run for office…

  • Dee

    To Mitt Romney and those poking fun at Obama ‘s goal to 
    save the oceans…(See URL)  And , as someone said “If 
    you can’t envision it….how can you expect to create it? “ The Liberal Legacy , Mitchell Rofsky, Boston Common http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0222-05.htmIn addition, Margaret Mead is known to have offered her voice of reassurance to this kind of ridicule in her time….. “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed, citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” ― Margaret Mead

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cacimbo-Smith/1142235495 Cacimbo Smith

    If the show today is the best his supporters can come up with  - Obama is gonna lose BIG.

  • Ed75

    There are two battles going on: the Democrats vs. the Republicans over the economy, etc. The other is the Democratic Party against the Catholic Church. The Democratic Party now has abortion on demand and same sex marriage as platform planks, and they’ve taken on the Catholic Church’s right to religious liberty and is being sued by the Church.

    I don’t see how any Catholic can vote for him. And if they don’t vote for him, he will lose.

    • J__o__h__n

      How can Catholics vote for Republican economic policies and the death penalty? 

      The Church doesn’t have to marry gays and the Church itself is free from providing contraceptives.  Its other entities have to follow the same rules as everyone else. 

  • J__o__h__n

    Why is the ultra conservative Weekly Standard on this week?  No one from Mother Jones was a guest for the Republican convention. 

  • 228929292AABBB

    Representative Cleaver’s position that the President doesn’t prosecute people (as a defense to his inaction toward criminal bankers) was frightening. He needs to go to youtube for some schoolhouse rock and find out about government in a friendly format. The Executive branch is for enforcement of law, and this President either doesn’t do it (in the case of bankers) or does it without due process (assasination and imprisonment of whomever he pleases).  Maybe if our Hope and Change President doesn’t realize the Justice Department works for him he should just send drones to kill Wall Street CEOs, it’s actually legal now, thanks to him.

    • http://twitter.com/Ziljan_Vega Logan

      I can’t tell how sarcastic this comment is.  But certainly wall street dodging prosecution by virtue of being “essential” to the economy is a blatant perversion of justice.  These same bankers put a virtual gun to the head of the US government demanding bailout money or they would crash the economy.  Of course they’ve paid most of it back, but thos remittances didn’t come directly from their pockets.  Nope.  It came straight out of the interest on middle class debt payments.  These bankers essentially operate as a private taxation system on the use of our own money.  Merchant fees, transaction charges, and up to 29.99% usury on consumer debt.  So much money, that were able to pay back the nearly trillion $$$$$$$$$$$$ in a matter of months and still make a tidy profit. The banks are now basically a shadow govenment that is apparently above the law and entitled to direct emergency civil loans should their irresponsibility every catch up with them again.

  • mmaaaxx

    Wow, this was painful to listen to…it is truly an ideological divide such that those who are happy with a big, powerful government will love everything Obama says, while Liberty-minded people like myself will just cringe at all of it (as we do with much of Romney’s rhetoric). Vote these despots out! They are spending away our future! Out national debt is more than our GDP!!!

    • http://twitter.com/Ziljan_Vega Logan

      I am an Obama supporter, and absolutely oppossed to deficit spending.  I don’t know where you are getting your information from.  The only factions in favor of deficit spending are businesses that directly benefit from it, primarily: the medical industry, weapon manufacturers, and foreign banks. 

      Republicans and Democrats need to stop bashing each other and start stamping out corruption and profiteering on the tax payers dime. 

      • mmaaaxx

        My information (Debt > GDP) is a widely public fact. I did not argue that they “want” to do deficit spending, only that it is a fact and that they keep voting for more spending and keep spending more! Certainly as a percent of our economy, Government just continues to grow.

        I’d say Republicans and Democrats both need to go and those who value person liberty and anti-corporatism need to be promoted. Libertarian Party is not the only answer, but it’s a good start.

        • http://twitter.com/Ziljan_Vega Logan

          I agree with much of what your saying, but I don’t see the link between corruption stemming from a lack of liberty.  Or government spending impinging on personal freedom.  I think the corruption is in large part allowed by too much “personal liberty” for high rollers who fund political campaigns and provide lucrative jobs to ex government officials as post-civil service golden parachutes. 

          There is a large disconnect between the giant anvil of debt hanging over the nation and middle class pocket book.    My taxes haven’t increased once in all these years of government waste unfunded wars, bank bailouts, & unfunded entitlement programs.  If the private sector investment banks imploding caused ripples that cost millions their jobs, what kind of blow can we expect from the collapse of government spending after China & other foreign banks withdrawal their cheap extension of credit?

          I suppose you can call a government hellbent on heading toward bankruptcy a form of impignment on “personal liberty.” But such loaded political buzzwords will only motivate conservative voters who value “freedom” like it’s a vintage artifact that is somehow going out style.  We liberals tend to respond better precise terminology and analysis.  It’s slower and more deliberate, but we find it more effective with less wasted energy on hotheaded witchunts that tend to waste precious political will on scapegoats.

          • mmaaaxx

             Thank you for your reasoned response. The connections between Debt, Corruption, and Liberty seems very clear to me. It may seem as if your taxes have not gone up, but the cruelest tax of all is the hidden tax of your money losing value. That is why our standard of living can fall while nominally we are making the same amount of money. They have the printing press and the ability to go into huge debt (not to mention unfunded liabilities!).

            Corruption is not something that can be legislated against; In my opinion the best solution is not to concentrate the power in the first place–disperse power to the most local level possible.

            So, yes, it sounds like you are heading toward the Libertarian position!
            If the debt explodes and our country goes bankrupt (like cities in CA
            are doing left and right), then there is no
            money and guess what? they are going to tax us all into the ground and we will be more or less slaves to a huge class of government officials. You may not like the term “Liberty” but the left has demonized every way of describing what I am talking about ;( This philosophy used to be called “Classical Liberalism”, but that was co-opted. The “Freedom” movement was mostly co-opted by the neo cons. There are more technical terms, but Anarchism is assumed to be violent and no one knows what Minarchy is ;)

            ok, thanks for the back and forth, back to work-

          • http://twitter.com/Ziljan_Vega Logan

            That is the best argument I’ve heard so far for the decentralization of government.  Maybe we need to be more like the EU and figure which states are like Greece and Ireland and cut them off if they don’t shape up?  LOL.  Certainly I don’t like that engine wrecking ethanol is being added to my CA fuel (despite the Cal-EPA’s authority) just to prop up corn farmers in Iowa.  But more pressing is the $35 billion in CA budget deficit is roughly the amount of federal taxes differential that get redistributed to the poorer red states (ie fed tax money we paid in that never makes it back to CA). 

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