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Romney-Obama head-to-head on the economy. Civil War in Syria. Sandusky. Colorado burns. Our weekly news roundtable goes behind the headlines.

People gather on a hill to watch the High Park wildfire near Fort Collins, Colo., on Monday, June 11, 2012. The wildfire is burning out of control in northern Colorado, while an unchecked blaze choked a small community in southern New Mexico as authorities in both regions battled fires Monday. (AP)

People gather on a hill to watch the High Park wildfire near Fort Collins, Colo., on Monday, June 11, 2012. The wildfire is burning out of control in northern Colorado, while an unchecked blaze choked a small community in southern New Mexico as authorities in both regions battled fires Monday. (AP)

Barack Obama and Mitt Romney this week, asking the country: “what’s it going to be?” Romney’s clear-the-decks, free market, ditch government economy? Or Obama’s educate, invest, defend-the-middle class economy? Verdict in November. In Colorado, New Mexico, raging fires. Sandusky trial, terrible testimony.

Congress, easy on mega-banker Jamie Dimon, tough on Attorney General Eric Holder. In Egypt, the military pushes back. A cry of coup. In Syria, of civil war. Greece, Spain, Europe, scaring the world.

This hour, On Point: Our weekly news roundtable goes behind the headlines.

-Tom Ashbrook

Guests

Jill Dougherty, foreign affairs correspondent for CNN.

Howard Fineman, editorial director of the AOL Huffington Post Media Group.

Jack Beatty, On Point news analyst.

From Tom’s Reading List

New York Times “The high court, packed with sympathizers of the ousted president, appeared to be engaged in a frontal legal assault on the Muslim Brotherhood, the once-outlawed organization whose members swept to power in Parliament this spring and whose candidate was the front-runner for the presidency as well.”

Wall Street Journal “R. Allen Stanford, the once-highflying financier convicted of masterminding a $7 billion Ponzi scheme, was sentenced Thursday to 110 years in federal prison.”

Washington Post “On a day of dueling economic speeches, Mitt Romney fired the first shots after moving his address up a half-hour, saying the policies that President Obama put in place had made it harder for America to create more jobs, rather than easier.”

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  • Hidan

    Looks like the U.S. might manage to install there own dictator in Egypt again. If only they can get the former torturer elected again while having no paraliment to counter him. I’m sure Clinton and the likes will call it a success or ” Yemen Option”(in which the only person on the ballet is the U.S. backed guy who any calls for free and fair elections is now sanction or threat of sanction per the Obama White House Executive Order )

    BTW I much prefer a secular government in egpyt but to deny the voters there vote there in free and fair elections is something else.

    • mary elizabeth

      Where do you get your information.?

      • Hidan

        Mostly World News, bbc, the guardian, Haartez,Euro News, RT News, LA times, NPR,The Telegraph, Ynet, Salon,al jazeera, and many others. normally if you go back and check the news before a big event they tend to talk about stuff they latter omit before they start to omit it.

  • Hidan

    As for Syria the U.S. can’t be serious about complaining that Russia is supplying arms to a Dictator which the U.S. used Loop Holes to supply arms to Bahrain, still supplies arms to Saudi Arabia and of Course does the same for Israel(no matter what it does s qualitative military edge anyone?)

  • Jacob Arnon

    HIdan just loves Assad and Co. He is the dictator’s best friend.

    • Hidan

      ad hom but it’s expected by people like yourself and provides nor proves anything. I don’t support dictators nor racist and apartheid states how believe god’s a real estate broker.

      The taboo has been broken hommie deal with it.

  • Azra

    John Edwards is a free man again, but who would want to change places with him? His life is ruined, as is his political career, to say nothing of the conflicted feelings his children must have about him. He may be free physically, but his conscience will torment him until his dying day.

    .

    • Gregg

      As it should, he’s a creep.

      • Steve_T

        You only think he’s a creep because he’s a Dem. If he were a Republican, you would find an excuse for him, not finding one you would make one up.

        • Gregg

          Please don’t tell me what I think.

          • Steve_T

            Weren’t you ready to vote for Newt? So please tell what you think. Would it be anything different than what you say?

      • Azra

        He’s dispicable.

    • JGC

      I am not so sure his conscience will torment him; I think he feels huge relief that he dodged the bullet.  

      And I think he will be back  (Political Rehabilitation with New Fresh Scent!)  just like George “macaca” Allen in Virginia…

      • Azra

        Only time will tell.

    • William

      It is hard to think a guy like Edwards has a conscience. He not only cheated on his wife, most likely for years, but had a love child with his little cupcake. Then he lied to his wife, children, parents, voters, press and the American people. No, Edwards sleeps very well at night and will be back.

      • Azra

        I’ m not so sure. I think he hates himself, and who could blame him?

  • Azra

    George Zimmerman’s wife are both in jail now; a sad state of affairs. Does anyone know if they have children? If so, what has become of them?

    • Azra

      George Zimmerman AND HIS wife…

  • Azra

    We’re so happy that Ron Barber has won the special election in Arizona.. He won by a LANDSLIDE, although people I’ve spoken to weren’t even aware that the election had taken place. Mr. Barber is a very fine man.

    Congratulations, Ron!

  • Azra

    The answer to our prayers . . . gas prices keep dropping, and at the time of year when they have always been highest. There’s a town in California, and one in North (?) Carolina, where gas is now $2.98 per gallon!!!

  • Azra

    Oh, I must maje a correction to something I posted a few days ago, about the woman who is eight minths pregnant, and was tazered. That took place in Chicago, not Dallas, as I originally thought. Anyway, the court has ruled that the officers broke the law, so the woman was set free. However, she is still extremely worried about how the tazer might have affected her unborn baby, and has tears running down her face whenever she is intervewed by WGN News. She was pretty obnoxious to the police, who gave her the parking ticket, and she was parked illegally. The officer’s defense was that they didn’t know she was pregnant when they tazered her, but should that have made a difference? Is it ever okay to gang up on, and harm a woman in that way?

    Answers on a postcard, please.

    • Azra

      CORRECTION: officers’ defense

  • Ed

    A large study came out this week that concluded that children do best in a home with a mother and a father:
    Study Shows Homosexual Parenting Not Equal to Heterosexual Marriage
    By Wendy Wright and Lisa Correnti
    WASHINGTON, DC, June 15 (C-FAM) A groundbreaking study reveals that adult children of homosexual and lesbian parents experience far greater negative social, economic and emotional outcomes than children raised within intact biological families.
    The Catholic Bishops, in their current semi-annual meeting, reaffirmed their unanimous support of the struggle to protect religious freedom. Telling people they have to act against their conscience is unprecendented in U.S. history.
    Today is Bloom’s day, the book where J. Joyce carries out Stephen Daedulus’ plan from Portrait of the Artist by mocking and removing Christ and God from the author’s life, in favor of devotion to art. This book is followed by Finnegans Wake, which shows a world without God, the book of the dark.

    • Newton Whale

      So, I guess you think we should only allow rich people to have kids:

      Children raised in rich families do better

      Those from poor families were more likely to leave school without qualifications, have babies before they were 20, commit crimes, go on welfare and have addiction and other mental health problems in adulthood.

      http://www.odt.co.nz/campus/university-otago/194817/children-raised-rich-families-do-better

      • margbi

        No, no, we should only allow marriage between people who are of childbearing age and who promise to bear children. Phooey on those older and/or barren adults.

        • Azra

          You said it. As far as seniors are concerned, why don’t we undo what President Obama has put in place. Let’s make them pay higher prices for prescription drugs. Let’s abolish Medicare, and other things that make life better for them. After all, we must cut corners, if we want to be able to extend those tax cuts even further;
          you know, the ones for some of the wealthiest people in the world.

      • Still Here

        Have you been reading again. NIce.

    • lodger

      Ed, I know two guys who adopted an infant who was addicted to crack. And a lesbian couple who adopted some older kids. Should they give them back? Because according to your study the kids are more likely to have difficulties?

      No one is doubting that intact biological families with parents raising their offspring is a great situation, maybe optimal. But what happens to the kids in situations that fall short of your ideal?

      • Don_B1

        Let’s require all male-female families earning more than $1 million to adopt at least one autistic, crack or otherwise disadvantaged child from an adoption agency or pay at least 40% of their income over $1 million to provide for adoption by others.

        • Still Here

          Is that your best hope to being adopted?

    • J__o__h__n

      I thought the study found no difference between intact two parent families and that the problems they gay parents faced were due to lack of support (like marriage) to keep their families intact.
      The Catholic Church is in no danger of having its religious freedoms compromised. Any non-church function they administer much merely follow the same rules as everyone else. They should spend that effort cracking down on those evil nuns who think they have a say in church policy.

    • MrNutso

      Wendy Wright is former president of Concerned Women for America and Lisa Correnti is Director of Operations for the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute. I question how groundbreaking this study is given its source.

    • Azra

      What does the study reveal about children who grow up in orphages, with NO parents in their lives? How happy nd well-adjusted are they?

      In America, everyone has religious freedom, except Muslims. No other religion is prevented from worshipping the god of their choice.

      In this country, all men are created equal . . . unless they’re not exactly like we ar.

    • Terry Tree Tree

      Priests are going to marry their VICTIMS?  So the children can have two parents?   One of which is a LIAR, Child-Abuser, Child-Molester, and all-around HYPOCRITE?
        Is THAT really the BEST family for a child?
         THAT is the ‘religious freedom’ YOU have been advocating for months!
        YOUR ‘men of God’, are CRIMINALS!  Are YOU one?

  • Newton Whale

    “The high court, packed with sympathizers of the ousted president”

    Imagine my surprise when I finished that sentence and learned they were talking about Egypt.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/15/world/middleeast/new-political-showdown-in-egypt-as-court-invalidates-parliament.html?hp

    • Still Here

      You should read more often. Your world view is so off, the surprises would never end.

      • Freddie Vasco

        So you have the definitive world view?

    • Hidan

      Of course the U.S. and Mrs. Clinton must be outraged?

  • AC

    & these used to be good paying jobs – def. Bush’s fault. Or Obama’s….
    http://singularityhub.com/2012/06/03/meet-robot-rx-the-robot-pharmacist-doling-out-350-million-doses-per-year/

  • Gregg

    Seriously, isn’t this avoidance of contempt charges against AG Holder for “Fast and Furious” getting a bit weird?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O3Wk2n8P6dQ

    • Hidan

      scary music, no mention of Bush starting the program.

      Lies and distortion hommie.

      Thanks for proving my point the video was produced by

      American Future Fund

      http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Future_Fund

      American Future Fund, according to an opinion piece in the conservative New Republic, was “founded by long-time Republican operatives Alex N. Vogeland his wife, Jill Holtzman Vogel, who together run the consulting agency Holtzman Vogel. The couple is joined by Republican pollster Jan Van Lohuizen, who previously worked for George W. Bush. The president of the group, Nicole Schlinger, is the former executive director of the Iowa Republican Party. … This group is geared toward helping Republicans in congressional races, allowing others to focus on the presidential election. So far, their activities have included an extensive campaign ad against the Democratic contender in a Minnesota senatorial election, as well as some suspiciously timed polling in Louisiana that appears to have been coordinated with Freedom’s Watch. It’s difficult to track major donors, as their anonymity is a major bonus of 501(c)4 status.” [1]. According to NPR, a large number of AFF’s leadership were members of Mitt Romney’s 2008 failed campaign for president

      In the 2010 election cycle directed its efforts at 14 “liberal” politicians that sat on committees with jurisdiction over energy and agricultural policy. [2]

      AFF has also actively campaigned vigorously against Obama’s health care reforms. It created several ads targeting the bill, many of included factual inaccuracies.

      factual inaccuracies? in nicer terms lies.

      • Hidan

        More,

        AFF leverage populist farmer sentiments by supporting massive government
        farm subsidies while hiding behind the claim of believing in “free
        markets and conservatism”.

        Essentially they promise to protect big govt intervention in the
        agricultural markets while at the same time claiming they aren’t for big
        govt.

    • Still Here

      Holder owns this, but Democrats never take responsibility, look at our welfare system. Disaster.

    • Trimegistus

      It’s not a crime if Democrats do it. Perjury, theft, murder — not a crime for Democrats.

  • Gregg

    President Obama in his ongoing attempt to blame his disastrous record on GW Bush has been complaining that Republicans had a steak dinner and left him with the bill. Cute. So Wednesday he took some military servicemen to lunch. When he left, he stuck them with the bill. Shameless.

    • hidan

      Reading your post reminds me of a song by Kid Cudi

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG7yHCbMQ40

      “No one believes you”

      • Gregg

        Why on earth would you not believe me? I don’t make things up. If you disagree with an opinion ,fine.

        http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/06/white-house-forgets-to-pay-fathers-day-lunch-tab/

        • Hidan

          Dude you make things up all the time,along with distorting of course. You rely nearly solely on rightwing web sites and news who they themselves lie and distort but as George said to Jerry on Seinfeld I’ll say the same to you

          Greg, just remember it’s not a lie if you believe it

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

          Sure your comment about the military vet is coming from a rightwing website as well.

          • Gregg

            I am an NPR fan and I got the link from ABC. What are you talking about?

    • mary elizabeth

      So typical. You forgot to add that the White HOuse settled the bill by the end of the day. Half truths and misinformation. Is that the best you can do?

      • Azra

        It is.

      • Don_B1

        And that is less than half the time that Gregg and Still Here do even that well. But this was a great time to just twist the results rather than have to make it up out of whole cloth. They just could be lazy and save their thinking for snark.

        • Gregg

          Really B1, do you not see the irony after his steak dinner analogy?

      • Gregg

        I should hope they settled it at some point.

        • mary elizabeth

          Same day, in fact.

    • lodger

      What’s more shameless is you comparing an oversight involving a $50 meal with unfunded wars whose costs were hidden from the taxpayers.

      • Still Here

        Ha, keep repeating the lie, maybe some day some one will believe your delusions.

        • lodger

          What lie? Ad hominem remarks like yours are the last vestige of the desperate.

          • Gregg

            The lie would be the wars were funded and on the books. They had nothing to do with the mess Obama made. If you are worring about the books then complain about Obama who doesn’t even have a budget.

    • Still Here

      So typical for a Democrat, expecting others to pay for their good times. He must of been in a rush to play golf.

      • Don_B1

        I don’t remember the details, but Ronald Reagan did something similar because as President he never had to carry a wallet so did not have any money with him. I am sure everything came out right in the end, just as it did on this occasion. But by telling just half the story these slime throwers could see if we were paying attention and also distract the reader from the real news.

      • mary elizabeth

        Just another cheap shot. Is that the best you can do?

        • Azra

          It is.

      • TFRX

        “Now watch this drive.”
        “Mission Accomplished!”

        You really want to play this game?

  • Hidan

    Obama’s Excetive Order against democracy in Yemen

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/05/16/statement-press-secretary-today-s-executive-order-yemen-s-peace-security

    http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2012/05/16/white-house-targets-yemen-transition-obstructors-with-new-sanctions/

    Protesters for democracy may need not apply

    The sanctions would freeze any U.S. assets and property of a designated individual or entity, and it would bar Americans from engaging in transactions with them. No one was named in the executive order.

    “This order gives Treasury important authorities to target those who threaten the peace, security, or stability of Yemen by disrupting its political transition,”

    Not sure how many people saw “The Dictator ” at the end he finally says he will have elections than when people go to vote tanks come in and than he’s at his election rally showing he got 99% of the vote and makes a comment about freedom and democracy.

    On 23 November, Saleh signed a power-transfer agreement brokered by the Gulf Cooperation Council in Riyadh, under which he would transfer his power to his Vice-President within 30 days and leave his post as president by February 2012, in exchange for immunity from prosecution.[39][40] Although the GCC deal was accepted by the JMP, it was rejected by many of the protesters and the Houthis.[41][42]

    A presidential election was held in Yemen on 21 February 2012. With a report claims that it has 65 percent of its turnout, Hadi won 99.8% of the vote.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%932012_Yemeni_revolution

  • kaltighanna

    I wonder what kind of media attention, if any, the Rio+20 (UN conference on sustainable development) is getting. The impression I’m getting is that Americans don’t know and don’t care about it. I understand the economy is really bad and there’s a presidential election going on, but still… Not one line about it on NPR? Why?

  • Hidan

    While the U.S. complains about Russia selling Arms to Syria the White house used Loop holes to sell arms to Bahrain.

    Obama administration using loophole to quietly sell arms package to Bahrain
    So Russia sells arms to a dictator and the U.S. sells arms to a dictator. Which one do you think the Corp media is going to cover more?

    President Barack Obama’s administration has been delaying its planned $53 million arms sale to Bahrain due to human rights concerns and congressional opposition, but this week administration officials told several congressional offices that they will move forward with a new and different package of arms sales — without any formal notification to the public.

    The congressional offices that led the charge to oppose the original Bahrain arms sales package are upset that the State Department has decided to move forward with the new package. The opposition to Bahrain arms sales is led by Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA), and also includes Senate Foreign Relations Middle East and North Africa Subcommittee chairman Robert Casey (D-PA), Senate Majority Whip Richard Durbin (D-IL), and Sens. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), Benjamin Cardin (D-MD), and Marco Rubio (R-FL).

    Wyden and Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA) have each introduced a resolution in their respective chambers to prevent the U.S. government from going through with the original sale, which would have included 44 armored, high-mobility Humvees and over 300 advanced missiles.

  • at

    I notice that the Chomsky interview is not presented as one of the recent shows anymore. I wonder why that one was buried so quick. Too much truth I guess.

    • Still Here

      Lack of interest is more likely.

      • at

        Lack of interest in the truth is a problem with no easy answer. But every person who is more interested in seeing what they want to see as opposed to what the facts indicate is someone else’s dupe. That’s the deal they cut.

    • GlennLevitt3

       I don’t think it disappeared faster than other shows do, but I can see why you would think that it’s significance relative to the typical OnPoint would justify a longer run in the spot-light.

      It was a truly historic interview just in terms of the intelligence and humanity evidenced by both parties.

      I think I will listen to it again right now.

    • Terry Tree Tree

      It is still listed in Past Shows, to my computer.

      • ClemTone

         I think he is referring to the shows that still have the little pictures for their links.

  • Still Here

    In the last 6 weeks, China’s oil company has made two offshore oil discoveries totaling over 1 billion barrels. Where are the peak oil guys?

    • Sean

      WoW, Still here (unfortunately), that’s HUGE!
      That’s, like, almost 70 days worth of oil for the world!! Two Months!! We’re ALL SAVED!!

      • Sean

        As though the world needs more carbon spewed into the atmosphere anyway.

    • Sean

      WOW, that’s almost 70 days worth of oil for the world! Two months! We’re saved!!

      • Still Here

        Gee if every 6 weeks we find another 140 days of oil, you do the math.

    • Don_B1

      But is the oil recoverable at near current price levels?

      What is really amazing is the way the oil industry actually acts and by that action acknowledges the threat of climate change:

      http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/06/14/499502/oil-companies-that-caused-climate-change-now-fear-its-financial-impacts/

      Keep denying, and prepare for the consequences! They will not be pretty!

  • Hidan

    Also remember how Dianne feinstein was complaining and calling for the government to investigate the people who leaked to Sanger? Turns on of the last people Sanger talked to was….wait for it……. Dianne Feinstein. Her reasoning was that Sanger was just too smart and she never called for criminal charges for the leakers

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/06/feinstein-says-she-talked-to-sanger-before-stuxnet-story.html

    Feinstein says she talked to Sanger before Stuxnet storyhttp://mondoweiss.net/2012/06/feinstein-says-she-talked-to-sanger-before-stuxnet-story.html

    Well in an interview on CNN last week, Senator Dianne Feinstein also denounced the leaks then said she talked to Sanger before his story came out. The problem, evidently, is that Sanger is so smart

    http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/06/06/exp-sr-blitzer-feinstein-intv.cnn#/video/bestoftv/2012/06/06/exp-sr-blitzer-feinstein-intv.cnn

  • Sean

    The Gregg/Still here troll is rabid today! Who is this guy?
    I guess Obama’s excellent speech yesterday, mocking the very notion anyone would consider Romney for Prez, has him worried.

    • Still Here

      Please, Obama blows and so does his economy. Obama can give a speech and that’s it. Otherwise he is a complete and utter failure. Only mindless sheep like yourself continue to buy the garbage he spews. America deserves better! And anything would be better.

      • Freddie Vasco

        So tired of your mindless comments. Anything would be better? How about Pol Pot? Please use your damn mind when commenting!

        • Still Here

          Such a sheep! Pathetic.

        • Azra

          MIND?

      • Don_B1

        Please read Bruce Bartlett, member of the Reagan and G.W.B. administrations, on the sources of today’s economic problems:

        http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/the-fiscal-legacy-of-george-w-bush/

        This exposes the Republican myths so we can win bets from them and recoup some of our losses from the devastation caused by Bush/Republican policies that Romney wants to repeat.

      • Azra

        Romney can’t even give a speech. He has no idea what he would do as President, so he doesn’t even pretend that he’ll do anything. No one has heard a single plan from him. He’s beyond secretive, won’t make appearances on late night talk shows, The View, or aywhere else. He becomes furious at the very idea that he should let us know about his income tax returns, like the rest of the candidates. He seems to think that he’s above all that, and is insulted whenever he’s asked about .

        His record works against him. When he was governor of Massachusetts, that state was almost the biggest failure, in job creation, but best for health care. MASSACHUSETTS WAS FORTY-SEVENTH OUT OF FIFTY STATES! Two governors in America did a worse job than Romney did. When he left, things picked up.

        • William

          Where is Obama’s plan to make everything fair? Raise taxes? That’s it? Hire more overpaid government workers?

          • Azra

            He has only lowered taxes. Haven’t you noticed? Tax cuts and tax breaks for small business owners and others. He won’t be raising taxes anytime soon.

          • William

            Where is the plan? He said he wants to raise taxes by not extending the Obama/Bush tax cuts. That is it? That is the plan? Raise taxes?

          • Azra

            That’s not his plan. It was Dubya whodecreed when the tax cuts for the richest people in the world would expire. It was President Obama who foolishly extended them.

          • William

            Bill Clinton is pushing to keep the Obama-Bush tax cuts in place. If you can’t trust Bill, who can you trust?

          • Azra

            His commitment to fairness is alive, very well, and very evedent.

          • Azra

            EVIDENT

        • Call_Me_Missouri

          As a Massachusetts Resident during Romney’s tenure I think your painting of his time in office sounds like talking points and not reality.

          The job statistics could be argued many ways because that statistic was from when he took office which was when the Dot Com bubble had recently burst and the economy was bleeding jobs.

          Romney did a good job of Balancing the Budget during two difficult years with huge deficits.

          Romney also didn’t get anything else done. His inability to work with other people in a cooperative manner impeded his ability to do things that got done in the first year with Deval Patrick. I speak mostly of the merging of the Turnpike Authority with the state Department of Transportation. This was a NO BRAINER move that desparately needed to be done and he couldn’t get it done because he couldn’t get people on board.

          So if your complaint with Obama is that he couldn’t work with Congress… I would not expect that to get any better with Romney.

          Romney is an Executive who is used to Authoritative Power. He will not have this power as the President and he will fail just as he did in Massachusetts.

          • kelty

            The major problem I had with Romney while he pretended to be the MA Governor was that he kept saying he didn’t raise taxes, but he substantially decreased funding to cities & town who in turn raised property taxes by the maximum amount every single year, it drove us right out of the state. He also raised the fees on almost everything the average person applied for/dealt with: excise/registration/licences/court filings, you name it, they all went up. All so he could proclaim he didn’t raise state taxes. Phooey! Then he abandoned his job to go around the country running for President and making fun of the state while he was still Governor. Yeah, he’s a great guy, that Romney.  

          • mary elizabeth

            Romney is one dimensional with a narrow focus and without the life experience that comes with struggle, to lead a diverse nation.  It is all about the spreadsheet to him.

          • Azra

            How out-of-touch is someone who thinks that Russia is our enemy.

            He hasn’t heard that the cold war ended. TWENTY YEARS AGO.

            He’s a very dangerous man., indeed.

          • Azra

            I have NO complaints with Obama. He’s our knight in shining armour.

            He can work well with Congress, but they refuse to work with him. After all, if they did, they might get something done. If it turned out to be good for the Country, maybe America won’t fail. Their only goal is to make us fail, (was that Dubya’s goal too? If so, he did a great job), therefore, they can’t cooperate in any way; too risky.

        • William

          Gov. Romney is more of a middle of the road kind of guy. You could sit down and have a beer with him and he would pick up the tab. He is not a radical like Obama. He did not ride some affirmative action program through college and get some no-show job after he graduated. He is the logical choice for our next President. I just home he can get into office before it is too late.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            You pick a President based on whether you think you could have a beer with her/him?
              Have you asked President Obama for a beer?  If that’s all it takes for your vote, I’m sure he would.

          • William

            Is that much different that electing a guy that was a community organizer?

          • Azrastarr

            YES. MUCH different. One thing has nothing to do with the other. One indicates character, empathy, compassion, selflessness, sacrifice, a willingness, (and feeling of a duty), to help others; the other means that you drink beer.

            Do you find a similarity?

          • Azra

            No, you couldn’t sit down and have a beer with him. First of all, he’s extremely secretive, and he won’t let anyone get that close to him. Secondly, HE DOESN’T DRINK BEER.

    • Gregg

      Obama’s speech was an embarrassment. Even MSNBC panned it.

    • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

      Why is it that anyone who disagrees with the left-wing position gets labelled a troll? This is not the exclusive domain of the left.

      • he is a replublican
      • Trimegistus

        It’s NPR, Greg: if anything’s the exclusive domain of the Left, it’s NPR. They’re so far up Obama’s ass all you can see is their hiking sandals.

    • Stillin

      I for one, will not miss Greg, when he goes.

      • Azra

        Is he going?

  • J__o__h__n

    More blame Bush for economy than Obama. How would Romney bringing back the Republican anti-middle class agenda help?
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57453042-503544/poll-finds-more-blame-bush-than-obama-for-economy/

    • TomK in Boston

      It’s amazing, we get a voodoo econ crash, Etchasketch proposes to fix it with more voodoo econ, and some people think that makes sense.

      • Azra

        Only people with very little, or no sense of their own, think it makes sense.

  • Freddie Vasco

    The state of Michigan as 800 golf courses, and the two most crime-ridden cities in America (Flint and Detroit).
    It is a perfect microcosm of our country.

  • William

    Tom could you discuss the incident with the HBO series “Game of Thrones” and how the creators used a fake George Bush head on a pike in a scene. Can we expect to see more of this type of crude behavior from Hollywood and the Left going into the election in November?

    • Terry Tree Tree

      It was a FAKE head of ‘W’?
         YOU wanted them to use the real one?

    • Terry Tree Tree

      What about all those FAKE ‘men of God’, that committ CRIMES? 
         THAT doesn’t bother YOU?  WHY?  Are YOU one of them?

  • Jim

    forget about domestic problems this week. Watch the Greek election on Sunday!

    btw. if you think the Fed providing a possibility of monetary easing to combat the aftermath of this election is good… then i think you might be sorry in October..

  • Freddie Vasco

    Does OnPoint want fewer people to comment? This new Disquss format is just awful!!!

  • Greymans

    NPR tells us freshly that (yet again) the Obama Administration is crafting policies that just happen to lend themselves to enhancement of the President’s re-election chances, viz., allowing illegal immigrants w/o criminal records to evade deportation (at least until after the [re-?]election). Of course, Obama’s already on record for the high rate of deportations since January 2009, so something had to give . . . purely coincidental that the reversal comes in this election season.

    • lodger

      Right, because all those non-deported illegals make up such a huge voting block.

      Face it, the people who benefit most from not deporting illegals are we, the consumer. Who cleans your office at 2 am? Who picks your lettuce and strawberries?

  • Freddie Vasco

    I’d like to believe that America couldn’t possibly elect a two-faced doppleganger like Mitt Romney. Then I remember that we elected Dubya… TWICE!!!

    • MrNutso

      And Tricky Dick – twice.

      • Trimegistus

        And Barack Obama. ONCE.

    • Still Here

      And slick-willy twice

  • Dan

    Obama: “not from the top down…” Is that a joke?

    We don’t want top down Finance rule, and we don’t want top down corruptible and fallible technocratic government rule. Obama favors the latter, most of us neither, as they both feed off each other.
    We want organic markets, no too big to fail, and self-government.

  • Dan

    Boy the party loyalist back and forth, missing the greater points, deeper corruptions, is so tiring. Day after day.

    Follow the money, see the revolving door technocrat appointees/Wall St coke-head goons, look at the monetary policy that feeds it at our expense, and stay on target til it changes.

    • Dan

      equally both establishment parties, defending themselves with same old shallow justifications, and we jump in hook line and sinker.

  • Sean

    …It’s also a question of WHY the economy “is not doing great,” and the reason is NOT Obama… unless you’re a shamefully mindless Republican.
    …instead, look to Republican policies of the least 30 years!

    • Dan

      Too big to fail and a monetary policy fueled misallocation of debt/capital to Finance is not a Republican policy. Its an Establishment policy and your precious Dems are just as dirty, naive, corrupted, ignorant, whatever, to play along.

  • manganbr

    What was the average GDP during the Bush years?

  • Thinkin15

    My Repub. friend who lives in NH told me “everything’s great” there. ‘People out on their boats, drinking cocktails, no unemployment, no food stamps’, etc, etc. but he’s voting for Romney. So is it about the economy for them or is it about which party holds the White House and anti-Obama sentiment? Corporations making the highest profits ever and they are the ones complaining!!

    • kelty

      Hmmm, He must live in a different part of NH than I do

  • William

    Obama does not seem to think the Congress matters. He just announced his own Dream Act, his war in Libya, secret war in Africa using contractors and his own words saying he will do what he wants despite what Congress says.

    • MrNutso

      It’s an unfortunate result of our system of government. If a large share of congress is only interested in getting their man elected, then President is pretty much swiss cheese.

    • Azra

      Much like Dubya, who did it a lot more.

    • Azrastarr

      Congress does not seem to think that America matters. He’s President, and within his rights. During his campaign, he promised to get this done in his first term. With that in mind, Republicans built even higher, (maybe electrified by now?), walls, and refused to do the right thing. Knowing that no normal human being could reason with the dysfunctional irrational Republicans in Congress, President Obama took the initiative, and it’s about time. Check off one more campaign promise realized. Bless you, President Obama, for listening )once again), to your consience, and to your higher angels.

  • Thinkin15

    The government has “gotten out of the way”. Corporations and the 1% have prospered greatly. NO trickle down is the problem with that method.

    • Dan

      No, it has used its power and discretion to institutionalize and protect the finance sector from accountability to market forces, and WE pay for the bailouts and carry all the pain of the consequences. There is no free lunch, we the people are paying.

      Decades of revolving door finance/appointee corruption and collusion by both parties, and Fed policy that feeds the beast, is our problem. We need to deal with it.

      The old Dem lines against Republicans don’t cut it anymore.

      Both parties speak half the truth, but never let us have it all, and keep us occupied at the ping pong table.

      Ron Paul was trying to tell the truth. Nader tells the truth. Only we can take it and do something. Voting like good little D’s and R’s won’t cut it.

      http://progressivelibertarian.org/about/

  • manganbr

    The military and many voices in the private sector argue that we need to invest more in our education system.

  • MrNutso

    Government is not a business.

  • Robert Letcher

    Why I’m Still “All In” for Obama

    Robert Letcher

    mid-June 2012

    I
    went “all in” for then-Senator Obama back in 2008 because he was the only
    candidate in either party who had [1] the nuanced insight to see the complex
    problems the county and the world faced; [2] the imagination to see through the
    complexity of those problems to workable solutions; and most importantly, [3]
    the rhetorical skills to persuade us to come together behind him, to transcend
    our differences, so that we could in turn persuade him to lead us toward
    remedying the dire problems we face.

    In my
    opinion, the problems we face—social division and economic calamity—are so
    severe that just getting people to work together would have to be considered a
    major accomplishment. Examples of his putting these skills to practice
    include: his 2004 speech that addressed social division directly; his 2008
    speech on race and the perfecting of the constitution, given at Constitution
    Hall, where the Constitution itself was written; and his 2009 speech in response
    to his being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, a speech notable for acknowledging
    that there is a rest of the world, and that it matters, too.

    More
    recently, President Obama noted that there are significant differences between
    being CEO for stockholders of a company and being President for all the
    citizens of a country. Those
    differences are manifest in social institutions; for example, many universities
    operate both a business school and a public policy schools, and continue to do
    so even during this Second Great Depression. In turn, the different schools teach different courses,
    toward purposes that are often better seen as complimentary in their
    differences, even though there are times when differences remain
    differences.

    President
    Obama’s accomplishments in these regards would have been significant even if
    Republicans hadn’t responded with their “No, Nothing. PERIOD!” strategy.
    But that’s exactly what they did. And they have been unabashed about why
    they adopted it: to make President Obama a one-term President.

    Another
    key difference is that a President’s decisions must often be taken in a context
    of too little informationt, and that eventually brings morals into their
    discussion, in this case, public morals, not personal. In contrast, CEO’s must, for reasons
    that follow from their repeated appeals to the Jack of All Obfuscations:
    “fiduciary responsibility”, to maximize their “bottom line” for their
    shareholders.

    Such
    obeisance to profit reminds me of the bumper sticker: “Selfishness is NOT a
    family value.”

    Which
    gets me around to similarities beween family values as I learned them and as
    Obama learned them. Central to
    both of us is concern for other people.
    Mom always insisted that my siblings and I “share and share alike”.
    And Dad often recalled the advice he had received from the priest who
    married them: “Marriage is a 60-40 proposition; just make sure that you’re not
    on the 60 end very often.”

    That
    caring for others that Obama and I share came out most visibly in my
    demonstrating in public in support of the his HealthCare Reform and enduring
    some really ugly treatment at the hands of some anti-HCR people. But as ugly as those people treated me,
    none of them stomped on my head, as one campaign staffer for a Republican
    candidate for US Senate did in a similar situation did just ahead of the 2010
    elections. Such a stomping would
    have killed me.

    And
    those stories are taken from the voting side of life. Stories from the work side of life are even more
    compelling. My Mom’s Dad lost all four
    fingers and most of his thumb on his left hand in an unfortunate encounter with
    a cement mixer more than 80 years ago.
    Had there been stronger labor rights, there probably would have been an
    OSHA, and his accident would have been designed out of the realm of possibility.

    One
    final indicator of the depth of my support for re-electing Obama came in an
    awareness that I experienced when I saw him during a 2008 visit to Columbus: it
    occurred to me, “I’d take one for him”—a bullet, that is. And let me add:
    I’m proud to have actively supported this country’s electing its first
    President “of color”.

  • Call_Me_Missouri

    We’re spending too much because REVENUE SHRUNK.

    Austerity has not helped one country in Europe.

    • Dan

      Print more! It will all be fine!

      • Call_Me_Missouri

        All in due time.

        It took four years to clean up after the Dot Com Bubble.

        It will take 10 years to clean up all the ridiculous mortgages that were written.

    • Willaim

      It works for Germany. They live within their means and what is wrong with that?

      • Call_Me_Missouri

        There is nothing wrong with that when you are NOT IN A RECESSION.

        Germany set up that system about what 10, 20 years ago when Europe was not in financial turmoil.

        Trying to do it NOW is idiotic.

        There is a time and place for everything. Now, is not the time for Austerity. It does not take an economic genius to figure that out.

        Now, if you want to have this conversation when employment is back around 5-6%, then OK. I’ll gladly have that conversation with you. But right now, the Government NEEDS to be the employer of last resort either directly or indirectly through contract work.

        • William

          The free ride is over and if you don’t have the money in the bank, you money, you need to face reality and get to work. Bailing out failed nations like Greece will not put them on the right track. Give them a cold slap in the face and let them fail. It is the only solution.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Banksters find new ways to steal your money in the bank?

      • AmbridgeMan

        Germany’s prosperity is based on imbalance: they export a lot more to their euro partners than they import from those economies. That can’t go on forever–and now it’s payback time.

        • kelty

          Ok, call me crazy, but won’t the Germans benefit from all the other EU countries not competing with them in manufacturing and exports. If the other countries flounder, Germany flourishes. Seem to me they stand to gain the most the longer they press for austerity for everyone else. 

      • jefe68

        Except for the little problem that the economy of Germany depends on Europe being sound. 
        If this keeps up and Europe does not stop falling into the Rabbit hole of economic despair, Germany will be on dole just like the Spanish are.

        • William

          Not really. The Germans sell their products around the world. It is more about some people in the EU work harder than others.

          • jefe68

            Wrong, a huge part of Germany’s exports are in the EU.
            If the EU goes down so does Germany. You don’t get it.
            As to the idea that some work harder than others that’s a straw man argument if there ever was one.

            By the way the Dutch work less hours per week than we do and are more productive. How do account for that other than the amount of hours one puts in does not mean you’re being more productive.

          • William

            The Germans work very hard and produce products that the world wants to buy. There are just too many people in the EU that can’t or won’t work as hard as the Germans do. It was a huge mistake to bring some of the failed nations like Greece into the EU.

  • Sean

    Yup, all the government job cuts make it doubly impressive that Obama has managed to maintain positive job growth in the private sector during his term thus far!
    … I’d hate to see what would happen to America under yet ANOTHER Republican!

    • Trimegistus

      What government job cuts? Government payrolls have gone UP under Obama.

      • Sean

        WOW! Which FOX news source are YOU addicted to??!! Lay OFF the crack!

      • mary elizabeth

        Absolutely false.

        • Azra

          That doesn’t make any difference.

  • ian

    Which new regulations that Obama has implemented are such an impediment to business? I keep hearing this but none asks which ones?

    • Azra

      If anyone did ask, they wouldn’t get an answer.

  • Worried for the Country(MA)

    The federal government doesn’t hire teachers and fire fighters. Krugman essentially argues for hiring to dig – and then fill ditches. He even went as far as for wishing for an alien invasion (ie – WWIII). Silly.

    The federal government is spending at over 24% of GDP – a post WWII high.

  • Roy Mac

    Listener Mark, with his “in my family, we just need to cut spending,” is parrotting the Teabagger line. To compare government finance to family finance is like comparing apples to oil pans.

    • Dan

      Because the Government has a Money Tree.

      You don’t understand who Debt, Inflation and Currency Destruction hurt the most. Its not the well-meaning elites, its the honest working class.

      Just as those things benefit the Finance and Washington elite class the most.

      • Azra

        Which well-meaning elites???

  • Call_Me_Missouri

    The problem is not that we are spending too much, it is that REVENUE SHRANK MASSIVELY.

    Austerity HAS NOT helped Europe.

    • MadMarkTheCodeWarrior

      It’s simple math – take money out of a shrinking economy and it will shrink even more. Kind of like taking oxygen away from a patient gasping for air… the right doesn’t want to acknowledge that reality.

      • Still Here

        The left doesn’t understand the reality of the bond market and neither do you.

        • Call_Me_Missouri

          You are definitely wrong about that.

          I do understand Bond Markets and I have been paying close attention to them.  Last time I checked US Bond Rates keep going down right?  Isn’t that a sign of CONFIDENCE, not weakness???

          And No European Bond Market has improved with Austerity.  Their Bond Rates keep going up and up and up and why is that?  Because their economies weaken with every additional Austerity Policy that goes into effect.  It’s EXACTLY like MadMarkTheCodeWarrior said (so I’m not going to repeat it).

          Meanwhile the money from the European Market had to go somewhere and it has ALL come to the US Bond Market where apparently even after our credit was downgraded the Bond Traders (who clearly disagreed with the downgrading) poured even more money into our market.

          The US Bond Market STILL IS the safest market out there and that is not going to change anytime soon.

          So your argument is an ignorant one not based in reality.

          If you can name one thing that will suddenly make the US Bond Market not the safest one, I would love to hear it, but do yourself a solid and don’t come back to me with Spending is KILLING US because it is not.  That’s just an example of the Republican Party underestimating US Excellence…  something they claim everyone else has given up on.

      • Call_Me_Missouri

        Amen!

    • Still Here

      It hasn’t even started yet. The markets won’t let them borrow anymore. The same could happen to us, better to cut now.

  • Dan

    Do you “want” to say you can’t afford?

    What kind of question is that?

    The question is CAN we afford?

  • MrNutso

    How much larger is the government with DHS and TSA, and increased military for 2 wars.

  • Maeldoun

    Nice new web development for leaving comments!

    Anyway, my vote was lost once the current president authorized (or at the very least, didn’t punish) the assassination of a US citizen with a drone strike without a trial, when corporate heads were not prosecuted for criminal actions (see documentary “Inside Job”) that led to the economic downturn, when he didn’t jump on the opportunity to get financial reform done while he had control of congress (a promise he ran his campaign on), and when he tried to mandate that every person in the US be forced to purchase a good/service.

    The executive and federal power has increased under this president beyond what I find comfortable.

    While I might agree that US terrorist should be brought to justice and that healthcare for all is a good idea, I don’t like the way that he did it. He has set dangerous precedents.

    As far as the economy is concerned, it is the same financial CEOs who advise the president and constantly have his ear. Either way (Red or Blue) Goldman has dozens of top advising positions in the government, does anyone think who the president is actually matters when its the same voices whispering in their ears. This trend has been continuing through both parties and several presidencies.

    PS I don’t particularly like Romney either… What to do… What to do?

  • john in danvers

    Hey guys, you can talk all you want about “can we *afford* medicare and social security” in a few years, but the fact is we have no choice. The *costs* the programs address will be born by us no matter what happens to the programs. People get sick, people get old, you can’t prevent the costs.

    • Dan

      It’s the “entitlement” thing. Its not just government program “entitlement”, but the idea of cheating aging, illness and death. On someone else’s dime. Basic health care need not cost anything like today’s costs. And a real market of doctors and patients would work. Of course instead we have the government/Corporate collusion that is “Health Care” and the costs have skyrocketed with the promise of “the government” always there to foot the bill. No sense of limits.

      Hope to cheat time, and the Governments open purse = Bad news.

    • TFRX

      “Can we afford” them?

      We can afford them as long as the GOP, our Beltway uberlords, and Conservadems don’t try to fix them. When those groups say “reform”, hold onto your wallet.

      And it goes without saying that there’s little interest in the press to have the economics explained. It typically starts with the conflation of Medicare and SocSec and gets worse from there.

  • MrNutso

    Bring back PAYGO. I nominate GHW Bush and Clinton as Co-Presidents.

  • rkm0

    Oh good grief, Jack Beatty, public employees are being laid off because their retired brethren are bankrupting state and local governments. And the only difference between Obama and the Republicans is that he doesn’t want to raise taxes on 98% of the population and they don’t want to raise them on 100%. Raising taxes on the top 2% raises less than $80 billion a year, and the federal deficit is $1,900 billion. How, and when, do you plan to dig out of that hole?

    • manganbr

      less than $80 billion a year? why is the tone so much different when Republicans look at the savings from cutting programs NPR funding, etc. There are lots of little ways to save a little money, that will add up to something, but for some reason, this 80 million is not allowed to be part of that?

      • rkm0

        My point is both the Dems and Repubs are idiots, as are the civilians who buy their nonsense. The US federal deficit is equal to the combined after-tax profit of all US corporations. In other words, the federal government borrows as much as the after-tax profits of all US corporations, most of which goes to entitlements and interest. The US goverment is really a heavily-armed but insolvent insurance company; the “government” part is just the administrative overhead needed to make us all pay the premiums in the form of taxes.

    • Dan

      details, details……. Jack is a good partisan stooge, though likely a nice guy, but he plays his role in this entertainment hour well.

      But it is frustrating for those of us who mistakenly think this is really and open minded show about ideas, and rational discussion….

      • Trimegistus

        This show would make Goebbels complain about a lack of objective reporting.

    • William

      The government work force unemployment rate is about 4 percent as compared to the private sector unemployment rate of about 10 percent. It is time to make things fair, like Obama said, and lay off at least another 6 percent of the government work force. This will make things fair.

      • Still Here

        And we won’t even notice they’re gone. We haven’t noticed the first 4%.

      • jefe68

        Sounds like a plan, add more people to the unemployment roster.

        So by your logic the Federal workforce should be on par with public (state and local governments have been laying off at huge rates) and private workforce in terms of unemployment.
        That’s an interesting way to solve our debt and deficit problems. Not to mention the unemployment problems.

        • William

          You need to get with the game plan. We need fairness in outcomes according to Obama so we need to lay off at least 6 percent of the government work force.

          • jefe68

            You sound like a socialist. 

          • William

            I’m reaching across the isle and trying some Liberal ideas.

          • Azra

            What’s fair about needlessly laying people off?

          • William

            Laying off public employees so their unemployment rate is the same as the private sector. It eliminates the “unemployment gap” between the two groups. This is the same logic used with the “wealth gap” that we often hear about.

          • Azra

            Sorry, you’re completey wrong.

            Time for you to do a few nonpartisan fact checks. Their websites are very easy to find.

      • Terry Tree Tree

        Millitary (government) unemployment is OVER the national average, so you are using incorrect information.

        • Azra

          Where do they come up with this stuff?

  • hugh

    Why doesn’t anyone remember that the Bush tax cuts were passed with only a ten year horizon and the promise that they would be rescinded if there were budget problems? If those promises were kept, there would be no arguments now about extending them.

    The sainted Ronald Reagan raised taxes when his cuts produces large deficits.

    • MrNutso

      It was always bait and switch.

    • Pete

      Reagan’s tax cuts increased revenue, it was the spending
      that produced the deficits. Even though he raised taxes, the overall rate was still dramatically lower than under Carter.

    • Azra

      He raised them more than once.

  • John

    The comments from two of the callers show how much the right wing media has distorted the facts. The meme that “we don’t have an income problem, we have a spending problem” is just ridiculous. The Bush Tax Cuts of 2001 and 2003 drastically reduced the income of the nation. Those cuts continue in effect, despite the sundown provisions, because the Republicans in the House held the country’s debt hostage to insure then continued. These tax cuts blew the budget. Of course, Bush also exploded the debt with two unfunded wars. Mr. Obama has reduced federal spending and has not increased the size of the government, which is the second meme the callers stated. The deliberate misinformation propagated by Fox News and others has distorted the thinking of the average American.

    • William

      But there is no budget for 3 years? Where is the budget?

      • Trimegistus

        Bush hid the budget!

        • Still Here

          Hidden in plain sight, probably on the Oval Office desk.  Obama still hasn’t found the desk.  If only Bush had put it at Clooney’s house.

      • Roy Mac

        The House refuses to take it up, and don’t start about the Blue Dogs.

    • Dan

      You need to show the math. You can’t. Your partisan account is not helping.

      • Zero

        Average income earnings decreased $2,000 dollars before the recession, while top income increased.  You can google the charts.  There are also charts that show the wealth gap decreasing during the Clinton years, although per capita income increased. 

        And the CBO says the Bush Tax Cuts are the leading driver of the deficit.  Most independent economist and even conservative think-tanks agree that the tax cuts cost roughly $2-$3 trillion dollars. 

        • Dan

           If Obama wanted to remove the Bush tax cuts AND get the greater government out of the economic micromanagement business, collusion between Wall St Finance, technocrats, Central Bankers and Congresspeople, he might get a following.

          But since he supports the latter, most people are bailing ship.

          • Zero

            Yeah.  I think it was legitimate of him not letting the Bush Tax Cuts expire simple because republicans wouldn’t let him have it on the rich.

            As for the other stuff, obviously he has been spineless about the corporatocracy.  But I think that’s the new political reality.  Hopefully, if he gets a second term and, with nothing to lose, puts an end to it. 

            But if he doesn’t, I will never vote for another democrat again.  There’s no point.  I rather the republicans tick off a revolution than a “liberal” cower to bankers.  I would just vote for anybody who would push for an amendment against money in politics.  

          • Dan

            Well said. I felt that way and am already over the line, Ron Paul was the best available to challenge status quo I could find.

      • Azra

        They have no defense, as shown by their generic rebuttals to everything that would be good for America.

    • mary elizabeth

      Yes, and does that not have some bearing on where the nation is at? Misinformation and propaganda lead to an intellectually crippled citizenry. Facts matter, especially regarding the fate of the country Lies, such as “death panel” cause the voting process to be invalid.

    • Pete

      Here are those “distorted” facts you’re talking about: Total Direct RevenueFiscal Years 1998 to 2008YearGDP-US
      $ billionPopulation-US
      millionTotal Direct Revenue -total$ billion19988793.5274.5523187.57a19999353.5277.9663350.94a20009951.5282.1723675.57a200110286.2285.0823527.75i200210642.3287.8043299.19a200311142.2290.3263456.93i200411853.3293.0463891.15a200512623295.5074243.60a200613377.2298.1094696.05a200714028.7300.7335170.63a200814369.1303.3804700.14aLegend: a – actual reported i – interpolated between actual reported values
      Source: http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/downchart_gr.php?year=1998_2008&view=1&expand=&units=b&fy=fy11&chart=F0-total&bar=0&stack=1&size=m&title=&state=US&color=c&local=s

      Note that after the 2003 tax cuts revenue went UP until the crash in 2008.

      So where exactly has the “right-wing media” been doing this distortion thing?

      • Pete

        Whoops, chart doesn’t seem to want to format here.

        Click the link to read the numbers, revenues went up every year from 2003 to 2008.

         

        • jimino

           Wow!  It’s almost like something to do with our country’s and its citizens finances happened in 2008, isn’t it. 

          • Pete

            Yes, but it had nothing to do with tax cuts.

    • William

      It is not the “nation’s income” so tax cuts are just allowing the nation to keep their money. Obama has not been able to get a budget passed in three years and has made not attempt to reduce spending. It is not that he can’t reduce spending it is he does not want to reduce spending.

      • Azra

        SINCE PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS SWORN IN, GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS THE ABSOLUTE LOWEST IT’S BEEN IN SIXTEEN YEARS! ARE ALL YOU PEOPLE TOO LAZY TO DO FACT CHECKS? IT’S SIMPLE REALLY. ANY DIMWIT CAN DO IT. IF YOU NEED INSTRUCTIONS, YOU ONLY HAVE TO ASK. THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF PLACES WHERE FACTS MAY EASILY BE CHECKED, SAVING YOURSELVES ENDLESS EMBARASSMENT AT THE BLOGS YOU REGULARLY VISIT?

        • William

          The WaPo and NYTimes disagree with your false facts.

          • Azra

            . . . and . . . Maybe you should do some more fact checks, NOT OPINIONS, to find a balance, and enable yourself come to commonsense conclusions FOR YOURSELF, BY YOURSELF.

  • Shtik Dreck

    I have been unable to find a birth certificate in Michigan for a Mitt Romney. Is he somehow related to Willard Romney?

    • Zero

      I heard he was borne in Communist Canada. 

      • Azra

        I heard he was built in Communist China. Think reprogramming is long overdue.

    • Azra

      There won’t be a birth certificate. Think we should look for blueprints of this humanoid, probably in Japan.

  • Thorstein Veblen

    A good economic analogy is to piloting an airplane. If a plane goes too slowly there is not enough air flowing over the wings to keep the plane from falling. A naive pilot would point the nose up, away from the approaching ground, but as any pilot knows you need to temporarily point the plane down toward the approaching ground to gain airspeed. Once flight speed is attained, then level flight can be resumed. Likewise, if an economy stalls, the economic pilot (government) must temporarily increase spending (counter intuitively increasing debt) to increase employment (and spenders) increasing the activity under the economy’s wings until employment is back to normal levels. Once employment is at normal levels, then the government can worry about balancing budgets and let the private sector take over employment.

    • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

      That only works if the airplane is high enough off the ground so as not to crash during the dive. Our government has been aiming at the ground for decades.

      • Thorstein Veblen

        True. Bush did put us in quite a pickle.  But look at the historically low borrowing rates for the US right now (.05%) you can see we have plenty of room to pull this thing out. 
        A country like Greece has no financial credibility and their rates are pushing 5%, 100 times worse than the US. They truly have no room to maneuver.  
        That is why Greece is having such a hard time
        and unemployment is soaring there. Of course if we go full Romney and lay off more teachers, police and firemen, that would cause a real depressionary stall and our borrowing rates will go Grecian causing a real crash.

        • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

           I remember when a one trillion dollar debt was considered frightening.  We’ve been borrowing and borrowing for too long.

        • William

          Greece’s main problem is corruption going back decades.

        • Azra

          Especially if Mitt declares war on Russia. What’s that? He thinks we’realready at war? Bloody hell!

    • William

      A good pilot won’t take off with an overloaded plane because it will crash. A good President will eliminate what does not work in government.

      • jimino

        I agree that much of our federal tax dollars are wasted.

        But not one politician has dared to venture into dealing with example #1 of what doesn’t work in government, at astronomically high expense: the military.  We spend $1 million per deployed soldier, haven’t had an enemy surrender in over 65 years, half of discharged personnel claim life-long injuries or disabilities for which we will be paying for decades, and leave service without decent employable skills in the private sector judging by their unemployment numbers.

        At least we would get something of value if that money and those people were utilized in infrastructure building/improvement or service in our country to our own citizens.

        • Terry Tree Tree

          EXCELLENT POINTS!!

        • William

          The military has been much more successful with the money they have received the last 30 years than the Dept. of Education and Energy. The decline in our education system under the Dept. of Education is a national disgrace. Millions of people have not been able to get a good education due to their failure. The Dept. of Energy has failed to get us off foreign oil despite billions of dollars tossed into it’s in box. We need a military but we don’t need the Depts of Education and Energy because they both have failed.

  • MrNutso

    Why are we paying these Senators if they have to ask the foxes how to guard the hen house.

    • Maeldoun

      I would change the word “paying” to “electing”. Then I would agree.

  • Dan

    What a joke, Dimond. Why do we even take these appearances seriously and dissect the testimony seriously? The guy should simply be there to be tarred and feathered.

    • Still Here

      As should those who spell his name incorrectly, try to keep up.

      • Dan

        sorry to disrespect your king.

    • jefe68

      I agree, the hearings were a joke. But it’s James or Jamie Dimon, not Dimond.

    • Roy Mac

      Dimon was there to pass out this months’ checks and to get his ass kissed.

    • Zero

       I think Bernie Sanders wanted to tar and feather him.  Of course, he’s probably the only uncorrupted politician left. 

  • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

    Sixty-two Federal regulators find nothing? Why am I not surprised.

  • Annie

    One comment on an earlier caller: I’m beyond tired of hearing people compare the Federal budget to a family budget. They have extremely little in common, other than the fact that they run on dollars.

    • William

      But there has not been a Federal budget for 3 years so how can we determine our necessary spending against wasted spending?

      • Azra

        There hasn’t? Your ignorance is showing again, I’m afraid. Better look it up. Read alk about it:

        whitehouse.gov

        • William

          Where is the budget? The last Obama attempt was rejected by the Senate and the House.

    • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

      Right–to go really deep in debt, you have to have sovereign credit.

    • Maeldoun

      Both have incomes and expenses, and both should ideally run in the black.

      There is more in common than you indicate, but only vague generalities can be drawn from the one to the other.

    • Still Here

      The money just comes like manna from heaven

    • Gregg

      Households can’t print money or take it from their neighbors legally. The government can.

  • Call_Me_Missouri

    This Jamie Diamond thing is a mess. JP Morgan didn’t lose the Government’s money or their Customer’s money and so long as they cover their own losses, I have to admit that I don’t care… Well except that I did find it kinda ironic.

    What is congress really supposed to say to him? Stop losing money?

    As long as they are within the limits of Capital Requirements put forth by the FDIC to cover their Customers, it seems to me like they didn’t do anything wrong.

    • Still Here

      Your first error is his name and then it just gets worse. Try to pay attention.

      • Call_Me_Missouri

        If you are going to tell me I’m wrong, please correct me, otherwise STFU.  Your comment is useless.

        Be compelling, not sniping.

  • Dan

    Why are you treating the Dimond testimony seriously?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gretchen-Hoekelman-McNealus/1046134370 Gretchen Hoekelman McNealus

    Where is the outrage or at least discussion of the secret TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership) meetings Obama is having? Corporatism to the Max and very dangerous for the 99%…engineered by a supposed Democrat.

    • Trimegistus

      If Obama does it, it isn’t corruption.

  • frenchman_alan

    @OnPointRadio A new low in doping – a collective team involvement to dominate a decade of cycling, while using USPS funds to fuel the fraud.

  • MadMarkTheCodeWarrior

    Naive wingnut senators are pretending to act as stewards of our economy? Let’s double down with the right and put another like-minded wingnut in the whitehouse to fill this whole bus with clowns.

    • Dan

      Wrong. It’s a question of the People running the economy through organic markets, vs. people like Larry Summers and Timothy Geithner running the economy.

      Now I don’t pretend that Romney represents the former, but we need to be honest and understand what the establishment parties/figures are delivering, and stop with the naive and useless D-R partisan back and forth.

      Obama won’t deliver an Organic, rule of law, no too big to fail economy, and its likely Romney won’t either.

      We need to realize that and move forward.

  • William

    A federal agent was killed in the USA. Several federal officials were killed in Mexico. Holder needs to resign. Why does government get away with this?

    • Still Here

      Democrats do not believe in personal responsibility, plain and simple.

      • MrNutso

        Politicians do not believe in personal responsibility.

      • Maeldoun

        General culture does not believe in personal responsibility.

        In the past people worked because of a sense of duty to God, their country, family, community, etc.

        Now people (in general) try to get as much as they can for as little as they can—without getting in trouble.

      • jimino

        And you think they are unique in that regard? 

        Here’s a list of EVERYONE held personally responsible during Bush administration for 9-11 intelligence failures;  Iraq intelligence and military planning failures;  Afghanistan intelligence and military planning failures; failure to recognize and deal with housing bubble, Wall Street fraud, and resultant financial crisis:

        NOBODY

      • Zero

        Get real.

        I’m sick of your stupid comments.  Go look at a political map.  The poorest and fattest states are red.  The states with the worst universities are red. 

        I drive throughout the South quite often, and red county after red county if filled with trailer parks and lack of success.  They are a bunch of ignorant people who vote against their economic interest because they are convinced democrats will tax ‘hard working’ white people and give it to ‘lazy’ black people.  They see the world through the prism of republican propaganda. 

        Yet the truth is that liberals have a sense of community, of loving thy neighbor, of being thy brother’s keeper.  They take care of themselves and society.   They don’t help the rich, cut health care from the poor, and let the moneychangers do whatever they want. 

        Your robust individualism is creating a winner/loser society that has little room for the middle class, it echoes Hitler’s social Darwinism, and it ignores the reality that society is made of interdependent (not independent) members working to improve the quality of life.  People should pay back to the society that makes their wealth possible. 

        You don’t believe in the capitalism of competitive marketplaces; you believe in a competitive humanity, which ceases to be capitalism but Social Darwinism.  It is a primitive way of thinking and is not without hubris.

        • Guest

          Zero IQ proves once again that the arrogance and condescension of the liberal left knows no bounds.  It takes a liberal progressive ideologue like Zero IQ to believe that the world would be a better place if only everywhere was like the west coast or the Northeast, and all of the universities were like the Republic of UC Berkeley.  If left up to Zero IQ, the South would mirror the bastion of success and freedom that is the south side of Chicago, all the better because the inhabitants were living in public housing and receiving government assistance instead of working and living in trailer parks.
           
          Conservatives measure their compassion and charity through their deeds and the organizations they support.  Liberals measure their compassion and charity by how they spend other people’s money.  What it comes down to is that conservatives believe in people, and  liberals believe in government.  Zero IQ would impose upon everyone a world in which the liberal ideologues would redistribute the wealth produced by others according to the liberal’s own notions of fairness and need, and afterwards they would praise themselves for their charity.  Hubris indeed.
           
          Your robust collectivism echoes Karl Marx’s socialism, and would create a society in which everyone, regardless of effort, would reap the same rewards.  Initiative would play no part in Zero IQ’s world.  It is a world in which everyone is a ward of the government, and ignores history in predicting the success of Zero IQ’s model.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Got more drivel?

          • Zero

            I know I strike a nerve when people start making inane puns on my name. 

            “Robust Collectivism”…please.  At least I can acknowledge that reality is ambiguous: that there is individual effort and social conditions that influence our lives.  To not think that is solipsistic.  Personally, I am a capitalist who accepts some level of inequality but definitely not the level of inequality we have which rivals China. 

            And you don’t believe in people!  If you would open up a history book, there are two things that have allowed the poor to rise up: unionization or revolution. 

            Personally, my ideal vision is along the lines of what Japan is doing.  They have the lowest taxes on the rich amongst G20 Nations (slightly lower than America’s), and they are able to have a flatter tax because their labor unions are some of the strongest in the world.  You can step on unions and decrease taxes on the wealthy at the same time.

            Read Wealth of Nations, you ignorant republican.  You have no idea what you are talking about. 

            And name one country that is economically to the right of America and is doing well economically and humanely.  Just name one.

            There is nothing evil about free health care and free college education. Just ask Germany. 

          • Zero

            And I like how you try to single out impoverished communities filled with black people to counter my point that almost every red state is a shit hole to live in.  And the ones that aren’t shit holes at least swing blue every now and then. 

            That  whole South Side thing is what it is all about.  You republicans think that liberals just want to tax the rich to hand a check to a black person.  But god forbid we have a program that sends the top five students from each South Side High School to Urbana, Northwestern, University of Chicago….  You’re right, the hell with those kids.  Even though they are growing up on food stamps and their parents grew up on food stamps and their parents grew up on food and before that who the hell knows what they did.  But perhaps we should take away their food stamps, so they’ll get the gumption to start manufacturing companies and dabble at the stock market.  I’m sure that is what will happen instead of them grabbing their guns and charging up Michigan Avenue.   

            Whatever.  I guess helping impoverished communities is much more of a budget sucker than South Carolina giving back a $1 for every $1.20 they earn…. 

        • Gregg

           Your injection of race is sick.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Get REAL, Gregg.  That IS a lot of the attitude in the South, and you know it!
               I sometimes have to be VERY careful about how to respond to it!

          • Gregg

             That’s sick.

          • Zero

            Go read the comment sections on Fox News and Yahoo News.  Your party is latent with racists.  It’s really the only thing that holds republican ideology together: why else would 49% of America vote against their economic interests?

          • Gregg

            That’s sick.

          • Zero

            What is sick is the racism I can go read right now on the comment boards of Fox News….  You want to stop sick people, go on those websites and enlighten them.

          • TFRX

            I love the way so many righties on this board get their tender sensibilities offended. It’s like they’ve never been on a right-wing or non-moderated mainstream place in their lives.

      • Zero

        And go take a look at Rick Scott, governor of Florida.  The guy was CEO and Chairman of a company that was charged 14 felonies, paid $600 million in fines, and is still paying for a $2 billion dollar law suit.

        Instead of going to jail, Scott was paid $9 million to leave HCA, became the head of another health care insurance company, and later was elected governor by an electorite that would rather have a republican with a criminal record than a democrat. 

        Is that the personal responsibility you are talking about?  Is this the brand of accountability republicans are looking for?  

        • Azra

          No comments, huh?

          Why is it, I wonder, that they can never back up, or give specific reasons for their comments? Any guesses?

          • Zero

            These type of statements are about dehumanization, which is always superficial and easily dismantled.

  • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

    Who on earth ever thought that Dumb and Spurious was a good idea–sending guns to Mexico? Yes, it was an outrage, and the hidden agenda of getting new bans on guns is also an outrage.

    • mary elizabeth

      From the lips of Fox to your ears.  Preposterous.
      The Obama  adm wouldn’t touch gun control with a ten foot pole, unfortunately.  War is nuts, but innocents gunned down in the streets of USA is nuts also.

  • MrNutso

    Started by the Bush administration.

    • Trimegistus

      Lie.

    • Still Here

      Democrat lie and distortion!  So typical.

  • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

    Message to Disqus: Go back. Change doesn’t equal good.

    • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

      Um, did they hear me?  We’ve gone back to the older style.

      • GretchenMo

        Can you ask for world peace now?

        • Terry Tree Tree

          PLEASE?

        • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

          What’s the fun in that?

      • J__o__h__n

        I’ve had problems accessing the comments on and off since the change. 

        • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

          With Disqus, the revolution always introduces a whole new set of problems to replace the old set of problems.

      • ThePope

         More likely they were testing the new forms of control and invasion they will have with the new internet addressing and protocols that have gone into effect.  This will allow them to identify who you really are if you have it enabled in the properties of your network connection.  The default is on.  It’s the one with the 6 in it.  You could turn it off.  I did long ago when I realized that having it on allowed the computer wizis at a local school to keep me from using P2P on their system when I used it from an internet cafe. So as I turned it off they couldn’t sniff out the traffic on my VPN anymore.  There may be a more knowledgeable poster who would comment?

      • Gregg

        Thanks, nice work.

      • nj_v2

        I actually wrote to them. Somehow, i doubt “Disqus” reads the forum here.

  • ghm52

    Where is the outrage or at least a MENTION of Obama’s secret TPP talks? (Trans Pacific Partnership trade talks)

  • MrNutso

    How about Sheldon Adelson’s $10 million down payment on buying Mitt Romeny with more to come?

    • Steve_T

      Actually about $30 M he had all ready given him 20 then threw him under the bus for Newt when his ratings dropped. So I guess the new 10 is like saying no hard feelings, I got your back.

      • Terry Tree Tree

        Republicans aren’t cheap, to buy?
           Wonder what a casino owner wants for all that money?

    • Trimegistus

      It’s a pittance compared to what George Soros and the Chinese spent on Obama. I’d say they got a pretty bad bargain.

      • Still Here

        $390 million more and he’ll catch up to the union thugs.  This president is bought and paid for and by “stupid money.”  No wonder he’s been such a disaster for America.

        • Ray in VT

          If your looking for “stupid money”, then just look for the poor people who give their money to the GOP.

          • Still Here

            Since it was Obama that made them poor, it’s only logical.  He’s made us all poorer.

          • Ray in VT

            Yeah, remember how awesome everything was the day before he got elected?  Everything was so good then.  Get a clue.

            Poor fools have been getting duped into voting for the GOP’s trickle down garbage for 30 years, and they just don’t learn.

            How many months of job growth have we had in the page 3.5 years?  How many quarters of GDP growth?

            I’m up 25% in income since he took over, and my retirement account has boomed.  Maybe your just not bootstrapping it hard enough.

          • Still Here

            Wow, try to think about somebody besides yourself once!  You leftwing nuts are so selfish.   Tens of millions are worse off since Osama got elected and have lost all hope.  They want a change!

          • Ray in VT

            I’m sure that Osama was just an honest miskate, right?

            I do think about more than just myself, that’s why I’m not a part of the GOP.

            Again, wasn’t everything great the day before Obama got elected?

            4.6% unemployment here.  I’ve got all the work that I can handle.

          • Gregg

            Things were much better the day before Obama was sworn in. Unemployment was under 7%, gas was under $2 and we had $5 trillion less debt.

          • Ray in VT

            Except for the fact that we were very nearly bottoming out and still heading down.

             

          • Zero

            You know what this country really needs…more tax cuts for the rich and a war with Iran.  That would help all Americans.

          • Gregg

            Man it would have been nice if Obama had nipped the whole Iran thing in the bud when he had his chance in 2009. It’s almost like he wants a war with Iran.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Osama self-appointed himself head of Al Quieda, was NOT elected, as far as I have heard! 
               Besides, Osama is dead?
            ‘W’ promised, on the corpses of ALL those that died in Twin Towers, to GET the ones that did this?
              Like he promised to INCREASE the Budget Surplus?

          • Azra

            They find it very difficult to admit, even to themselves, that they are wrong.

          • Zero

            Dark markets, lack of consumer protection in the housing bill, right to work states, weakening public labor unions, and the tax cuts for the rich that causes fees and tuition to go up, scholarships to go down due to the underfunding of government has made the majority of the country poorer.

        • Zero

          You should call your congressman and tell him push for an amendment that limits campaign contributions to living, breathing individual humans with donations up to 2,500–all political advertizing on television and radio mediums can only be done out of the politicians political coffers–and lobbyist can no longer give a politician a single penny.

          Do the country a favor and help make corruption illegal!

      • MrNutso

        Numbers please.

      • mary elizabeth

        Please document “the Chinese spent on Obama”
        Some of us don’t know.  It is important.

  • augluc

    Let me ask you some questions:
    are you aware that the US government DOESN’T NEED Taxes to pay for stuff? Do
    you really know that monetary sovereign nation IS NOT revenue constrained on
    its spending? Do you really know what the purposes of taxes are? Do you know
    that the same nation doesn’t have a solvency issue like the EU country that all
    USER of a foreign currency? There is a monumental difference and it seems that most
    of you don’t get it.  Are you aware that
    the Debt/GDP ratio is mostly irrelevant? Are you aware that the household-government
    comparison doesn’t hold water? Is a big, big lie trotted out for the purpose of
    reducing the rule of government and put everything in private hand…..the same
    with inflation.   With this respect, when
    you have a big output gap between aggregate capacity and aggregate demand, it is
    basically impossible to have inflation. 

    Please try to read Worren Mosler,
    Bill Mitchel, Bill Black, Marshall Auerback, Stephanie Kelton Randall Wray it
    will help to uncover the truth about these important issues.  If you go for austerity you’re going to shoot
    yourself in the foot! 

  • Terry Tree Tree

    Sandusky says he is NOT guilty, but IF he is guilty, he has a ‘medical condition’? 
        Who does he think he is, Catholic clergy?

  • Trimegistus

    Your guests are damned liars. Operation Fast & Furious was NOT “continued from the Bush Administration” — it began in 2009. And Issa’s investigation is NOT “just politics.” Not only an American law enforcement officer but _two hundred Mexican citizens_ have died as a result of this operation.

    How many people died from the Watergate break-in?

    The Obama Administration’s criminality and incompetence are on full display here, and for your guests to dismiss this as “just politics” or “conspiracy theories” just shows that this show isn’t journalism at all. It’s nothing but Obama Adminstration spin and talking points.

    How does it feel to work for Pravda, Mr. Ashbrook?

    • Still Here

      You can bet Tom’s approach would be completely different if a Republican were in the WH.  We’d have two hour marathons on the topic. 

      • Ray in VT

        Just like how the GOP was silent on debt and deficit issues just as long as W. was in the White House?  I’m sure that Rush and Fox were pretty tough on him for that, though.

        • Zero

           What?  I thought we didn’t have a debt crisis until a democrat took office….

          • Ray in VT

            That would be one’s take if one only listened to the GOP.

          • Dan

             Tell that to the Tea Party. Short Memories or Political expediency? Began under Bush.

          • Pagassae

            Indeed. All of the right wing nuts suffer from amnesia. How convenient.

          • Still Here

            One thing I never forget is how ignorant you truly are, mostly because you do a great job reminding us everyday.

          • Dan

            I meant that the Tea Party was infuriated and fueled by the banisters actions and the crash/bailouts/too big too fail, under Bush.

            As much as people love to disparage the trailer trash tea party, at the true grassroots its regular little p people completely mistrusting the entire power elite, not still trusting the government half like some naive progressives.

          • Gregg

            Absolutely right, if not for Bush’s reckless spending there would be no Tea Party takeover of the Republican party.

          • TFRX

            And yet he was a “conservative” and the right’s hero, and feted at CPAC. And Rush and Fox and everyone nodded about how he was a rockstar, and a real man, and doing everything the country needed, and nobody who didn’t want their ass handed to them by the propaganda machine opened their mouth.

            This continued up until the moment everything fell apart and his support hit 27%.

            Why don’t you go back in time and worry about your political allies as much as you do your enemies now?

          • Gregg

            Because I don’t agree with your assessment of Bush. IMHO he’s a great man. Sue me. I’m here in the present, live in the past if you want.

          • TFRX

            I don’t care about what you say you think of him.

            Watching delude yourself into the ret-conning and needle threading like everyone else on the right, and the MSM, is reward enough.

            You can hold a meeting of your ilk–Bush spent too much and I told everyone then!–in a phone booth.

          • Gregg

            No, according to Democrats before the 2006 midterms Bush’s trillion dollar deficit was disaster. It’s odd because deficits were shrinking for years until TARP which Senator Obama voted for and President Obama implemented half of. Bush only got $350 billion but set it up so Obama could get the next installment on day one. Still the deficit all goes to Bush. That’s cool but Obama called it unpatriotic and then took credit for it saving the economy. Now trillion dollar deficits are the norm. As a matter of fact their higher, a trillion dollar deficit would be austerity to many. Remember this one?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_PJ4vQICBk

            The deficit in 2004 was $428 Billion; $318 (2005), $239(2006), $151(2007). Democrats took Congress in 2007 and the deficit was back up to $415 billion for 2008. Back then a trillion dollar deficit was unthinkable. Then the meltdown and TARP, 2009 was $1.274 trillion. Off to the races.

          • Zero

            In the real world, GDP was contracting at 8% with 8 banks about to file bankruptcy.  Just think about that.

        • Gregg

          Yes Ray, they were brutal. Especially Rush. To say “Fox” is pretty general but still accurate. The news division as well as the commentary division was very hard on him. I suppose it’s fair to say the many very hard left commentators on Fox were a little tougher but not not much. It resulted in the GOP loosing congress in 2006 and the Presidency in 2008. Obama called Bush “unpatriotic” for debt less than a quarter of what his is now. Even Krackpot Krugman was freaking out about the debt. Now he says we need more debt and isn’t worried at all. Go figure.

          • Gregg

            Also see my reply to Zero to understand why they are so much more upset now. The deficits back then were dreamy.

          • Zero

            You do realize that the Bush Tax Cuts account for half the deficit…?

            You do realize that the Clinton  surpluses were dreamier.  That it is irresponsible to cut taxes for people who don’t need them that eliminated the surplus…? 

            You do realize that the leading drivers of the deficits are things the republicans are trying to keep in place…?

          • Worried for the country(MA)

             Sorry but you are wrong — at least during the Obama years.

            The Bush tax cuts currently account for $400B/ year and the deficit is currently running at > $1.2T  That is NOT half.

            Also, economic growth would be smaller with the tax cuts removed therefore the revenues would be even smaller.

          • Azra

            At least we have the comfort of knowing that everything our president is doing for us now, is being done for the right reasons, and we’re eternalky grateful to him for that.

          • Gregg

            So 6 million of the poorest taxpayers say their liability disappear entirely, the 15% bracket dropped to 10% and you say the didn’t need it. Gotcha.

            The tax cuts helped tremendously with the impact of the bursting dot com bubble and 9/11. Obama would have raised taxes by now if Democrats supported it.

      • mary elizabeth

        Then, why do you listen.  90% of talk radio supports your worldview.  Your options are endless.

        • Still Here

          It’s my charity work, to help those who can’t or won’t help themselves.

          • Ray in VT

            They say that charity starts at home.  Perhaps you should begin at the beginning.

          • Still Here

            There you go again, letting your selfishness shine through.  Pathetic.

          • Ray in VT

            I was just offering some friendly advice.  One should always get one’s own house in order first.  I’d fire that last bit right back at you.

          • jimino

             Keep showing up.  You’re like a compass, the truth being the polar opposite of everything you say. 

          • Still Here

            Beautiful imagery, you’ve missed your calling.  Your lies and distortions would be better suited to the NYT.

          • Pagassae

            Still the right wing nut propaganda bot….some things never change.

    • MrNutso

      Project “Gunner Runner” started as a pilot project in Laredo in 2005 and expanded nationally in 2006.

    • mary elizabeth

      Project gunrunner was started in 2005 and became national in 2006.  There is more to the story then you suggest, though none of it is good.
      Your comment about Pravda is desperately cheap.
      There is more real journalism on NPR than in all other media combined.

    • Zero
      • Gregg

        Are you serious, you want to blame this on Bush too? Did Obama work in conjunction with the Mexican authorities as Bush did? No. Were the same controls in place? No. Did “Fast and Furious” result in the prosecution of firearms trafficking organizations all the border States? No. Did 200 Mexicans and an American die as a result of Bush? No.

        • Gregg

           PS – apologize to Trimegistus

        • Zero

          Where am I’m blaming it on Bush?

          He stated that the program was started under Obama, which is a lie.  It was started under Bush.  That’s all I said, but you decided to extrapolate for whatever reason.

          • Worried for the country(MA)

             Jack blamed Bush for F&F and NO ONE on called him on that nonsense.

            At least the CNN reporter was honest and pleaded ignorance on FF.  She deserves credit for being honest.

          • Azra

            THEY’RE ALL SO DEFENSIVE? WONDER WHY . . .

          • Gregg

            “Gun runner” started under Bush. The completely different “Fast and Furious” is Obama’s. He owns it, Bush cannot be blamed.

          • Zero

            Please….

  • augluc
  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001436729213 Wes Nickerson

    Austerity does not work. It only makes the economy worse.  During the early 1970′s tax rates of high income earners were much higher than today and we had a booming economy back then. Let’s raise taxes on the rich to levels we had back then. That will make the economy flourish again.

    From the Wall Street Journal
    http://tinyurl.com/6s5oteg

    Join with the people standing up for a working economy in Boston tomorrow in the March Against Austerity.
    http://www.bit.ly/j16march

     

    • Gregg

      You can take every penny from the rich and it would not make the economy flourish. It would even register, no way no how. There is no austerity or anything even close to it being proposed.

      • J__o__h__n

        They are promoting sham austerity like the Ryan budget which would slash government and give more tax cuts for the rich. 

        • Pagassae

          Plus hundreds of billions more to the MIC, to payoff the Congress..via their lobbyists….even more than is currently being done, and is already criminal.

          • ThePope

             Mr Keynes attended the peace negotiations after the first world war.  His main comment was that if they proceeded with the rapacious treatment of Germany that the Allies proposed that it would not put the war to an end but merely postpone it for twenty years.  The man had no sense of economics. (irony alert for our conservative friends)

      • Zero

        That is one of the biggest propaganda lines used by the republicans.  It doesn’t defeat the fact that taxing the top would reduce the deficits and employee scores of people.  If we had higher taxes on Romney, per se, he would have one home and a lot of money would go back to the economy.

        • Gregg

          It would not make a difference at all. Your vision is scary. Who cares how many homes Romney has?

          • Pagassae

            You missed his point.

          • Gregg

            It would not create jobs it would kill them. It would not reduce deficits it would reduce revenue.

          • Zero

            It actually pays for actual jobs with taxes on the ‘job creators’ and closed loopholes. 

            This is point A to point B economics.  Unlike the faith-based economic policy of cutting taxes on the rich to create new jobs. 

          • notafeminista

            Except for the part where the ‘job creator’ figure out how to have less income and thus reduce their taxes.   Close a loophole, open a window.

            Why do you think California has lost population for the first time in its history as a state?

          • Roy Mac

            Gregg doesn’t miss points–he just ignores the ones that don’t fit under his tin foil hat.

      • Sam Walworth

        Gregg,

        You forget TARP ?

        • Gregg

          I don’t understand the question.

    • William

      We should really return the 1970′s sending rates too. That would create a huge economic boom.

      • Terry Tree Tree

        Telegram, or package?

      • Azra

        So would a return to 1950s tax rates.

  • JGC

    Breaking news from The Borowitz Report:

    “In Emergency Session, U.N. Declares Florida a Rogue State…The actions by Florida Gov. Rick Scott to purge the voter rolls in his state might have inspired the vote by the U.N…which means the U.N. could soon dispatch a team of observers to Florida, led by diplomats from such democracies as Egypt and Libya…

    Gov. Scott’s voter purge was only the latest in a series of events “that reveal a near-total breakdown of the rule of law in Florida,” the U.N. spokesperson said.  ”This is a state where people have been killed for carrying Skittles and iced tea,  or had their faces eaten off by zombies high on bath salts. And now this thing with Rick Scott.”

    More at http://www.borowitzreport.com

  • Dan

    If Obama wasn’t trying to defend a technocratic/quasi-socialistic expansion of the Finance/Government Corporate State, and instead argued for more Organic free markets withing a simple rule of law, then most people would support the Bush tax cut expiration, and Obama, but of course he represents and is pushing the former, not just the latter, and most Americans don’t like that, even if they know Romney is no Panacea.

  • JGC

    “Greece no longer a nation; Announces plan to become a social network:

    After struggling for months with an intractable financial crisis, Greece announced today that it would cease to exist as a sovereign nation and would instead reboot itself as a social network.  The new entity, Fetabook, is expected to raise much-needed billions in an upcoming IPO. 

    The social network formerly known as Greece announced that it would cancel upcoming elections and instead install a CEO, a 24-year-old hacker from suburban Athens named Ciro Mavromatidis.  ”We’re keeping all the aspects of Greece that made it a really cool brand – the ruins, the Olympics, the olives,” he said. “We’re just losing the things that were a drag on the Greek economy:  namely, the Greeks.”

    From the Borowitz Report

  • Gregg

    Doctors will jump ship if Obamacare is fully implemented.

    http://www.dpmafoundation.org/physician-attitudes-on-medicine.html

    • lodger

      Wow I can smell the astroturf from here.

      “Standing for patient freedom”? Are you joking?  As long as for-profit insurance companies control the financing of our healthcare, we have no ‘patient freedom’.  Go to France or Canada or the rest of the civilized world if you want to talk about “patient freedom”.

      I don’t know any members of this DPMA group. Do you? Gee, where’d they pop up from all of a sudden?

    • Ray in VT

      I’m sure that some will, but I’m highly suspicious of your source, Gregg.

      This group was founded in 2011.  It’s founder was a part of the “Association of American Physicians and Surgeons”, which, I’m sure that you know, has been fighting the specter of “socialized medicine” since 1943.  Ron Paul has been a member, and the group is linked up with the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, which is a climate science denying, intelligent design outfit.

      They found that a majority of doctors that they surveyed hate the Affordable Care Act.  Surprise, surprise.  You might as well ask Red Sox fans whether or not the Yankees suck.

      • lodger

        You have to read the fine print to discover the 4% response rate. Which means the overwhelming majority of physicians surveyed smelled the astroturf and tossed it.

      • Gregg

        I am suspicious of all polls, that’s why I didn’t cite the numbers, but this dynamic has been foreseen by many polls over quite some time. Doctors do not like Obamacare.

      • Hidan

        sourcewatch. org/index. php?title=ALEC_Non-Profits
        You should it’s supported,works with and created by ALEC

      • Hidan

        More.

        The Doctor Patient Medical Association (DPMA) and the Patient Power Alliance (PPA) work to repeal health care reform[1] and call themselves a “a nonpartisan association of doctors and patients dedicated to preserving free choice in medicine.”[2] The organization is a member of the National Tea Party Federation[3] and the “American Grassroots Coalition.”

        sourcewatch. org /index.php?title=Doctor_Patient_Medical_Association

    • J__o__h__n

      What country are they going to?  Most of the rest of the world has government health care. 

    • Pagassae

      Let doctors learn that their first mission is to heal. Making big money was not mentioned in their oath…if I recall.

      • Azra

        , unless they’re Republicans. They play by their own set of rules.

    • Terry Tree Tree

      To Canada?  To Costa Rica?  To British Isles?

    • Terry Tree Tree

      Doctors are NEEDED in Somalia, Sudan, Djbuti, North Korea, and Iran!

      • Pagassae

        Sorry, no interest…the doctors cannot make 7 figure salaries, being real doctors.

      • JGC

        Wait a minute, aren’t they already getting our bankers?  Are we exporting our doctors,too?

      • Paxtriot

        What do you have against Djibouti? It’s a tiny place that is not in the same basket as the other countries. BTW, I fully support your proposal to offer our bankers an internship in Iraq or North Korea (should have been in the bailout package)…

    • JGC

      I suspect most of these doctors are older and ready to retire anyway. They are private practice and do not want to deal with the hassle and expense of putting their patient records on line. 

      • Azra

        Are they seriously talking about a revolt or something?

    • Azra

      In your dreams.

      • Gregg

        It would be a nightmare.

        • Azra

          Pipedreams. Why would doctors do that?

    • jimino

       Doctors were members of the real middle class until the government got involved in the health insurance business.  Let ‘em compete in laissez faire utopia where only those with sufficient resources could employ them and they would be a LOT poorer.

      • Gregg

        It’s not a matter of salary but I agree with you, competition is good and will benefit all.

  • Roy Mac

    What is this Disqus?  A major shareholder of WBUR?  What a truly crappy piece of software.  Every other damned web site can organize a discussion board–why can’t WBUR?

    • Pagassae

      Disqus is a 3rd party application many other sites use for comments.

  • Hidan

    Onpont might take a look at this the below,
     
    But is the Houla massacre really “better documented” than other atrocity stories emerging from Syria? On June 7, a major fissure began to appear in the storyline, when leading German daily newspaper Frankfurter Allegemeine Zeitung (FAZ) quoted sources who said that the Houla massacre was carried out by anti-Assad Sunni militants, and that their victims were nearly all Alawi and Shia—populations traditionally loyal to Assad. According to Syria expert Patrick Seale (Agence Global, 6/12/12) ,who quoted translated parts of the German story,  FAZ sources said after the killings, “the perpetrators then filmed their victims and, in videos posted on the internet, presented them as Sunni victims of the regime.”
    On June 7, the BBC began to back away from its earlier stories that had reported the conventional line, blaming pro-government forces for a massacre that including the cutting of women’s and children’s throats. As the UK media watch group Media Lens (6/13/12) reported:
    Last week, however, in what might almost be interpreted as a mea culpa, the BBC’s World News editor, Jon Williams, began a June 7 blog emphasizing “the complexity of the situation on the ground in Syria, and the need to try to separate fact from fiction.”
    This was a surprising emphasis—the BBC had previously communicated no sense of “complexity” in blaming the Syrian government. Williams continued:In the aftermath of the massacre at Houla last month, initial reports said some of the 49 children and 34 women killed had their throats cut. In Damascus, Western officials told me the subsequent investigation revealed none of those found dead had been killed in such a brutal manner. Moreover, while Syrian forces had shelled the area shortly before the massacre, the details of exactly who carried out the attacks, how and why were still unclear…. In Houla, and now in Qubair, the finger has been pointed at the shabiha, pro-government militia. But tragic death toll aside, the facts are few: it’s not clear who ordered the killings—or why. fair. org /blog/2012/06/14/ was-houla-massacre-a-manufactured-atrocity/

    • Pointpanic

      Hidan I just read this on the FAIR site. I agree .On Point should take a look at this. all teh media should if thruth is their objective. Thank you for taking the time to write this all out.

  • Still Here

    New amnesty program for illegals  =  groveling for the Hispanic vote  =  a new lower low for this president who will do anything to complete his destruction of this country.

    • Sam Walworth

       Yes, lets vote him out in Nov 2012 and get someone who can pull the trigger on the illegals.

      enough with the illegals.

      • Azra

        Enought with trigger pulling, you mindless jerk.

    • Pagassae

      Same as the amnesty your St. Reagan gave 25 years ago. More amnesia from you. I wonder why right wing nuts all seem to be afflicted with AMNESIA.  Same genetic traits I think:  bigots, backward reactionary thinking, intolerant, small minded, hateful, and amnesiac. Such wonderful human beings you folks are.  NOT

      Are you from the South? Do you wear shoes, and are you married to your sister?

      • William

        Did Reagan get Congressional approval?

        • Pagassae

          Mr. Obama acted within the law. Something the criminal Republicans in Congress might try for once.

          • William

            Did he get Congressional approval for this? Or his bombing of Libya? Or for his secret wars in Africa?

          • Pagassae

            You got a correct answer, deal with it.

          • William

            That’s interesting.

          • jefe68

            Two words: Iran/Contra.

          • Pagassae

            Thanks for shutting up the right wing nuts. They have no comeback for that event, which they so conveniently forget.

            It must embarass these fools greatly to be shown up for the hypocrites they are.

            Get that “William”?

            Get that “Still Here”?

            Get that “JonS”?

          • William

            Iran/Contra? Compared to bombing Libya? Secret wars in Africa? Certainly you can’t pull a different bunny out of your hat?

          • William

            Iran/Contra? Compare that to JFK’s invasion of Cuba or LBJ’s Gulf of Tonkin lie…

          • Azra

            President Obama is much smarter than the rest of us. In fact, he’s a genius! He was a professor of Constitutional Law. He has a deep reveranance and respect for our Constitution. He knows it backward and forward, inside and out, so we can rest assured that everything he does is perfectly legal. Unlike some who contribute to this blog, he’s no dummy.

          • Gregg

            He certainly does not. He complains about the Constitution not telling government what it must do as opposed to saying what government can’t do. Obamacare is unconstitutional.

          • Azra

            As soon as it was received from Congress, their health care act was gone over, again and again, with a fine-tooth comb, by the President, and many other scholars. They all agreed that it is completely constitutional.

            If you know something that the rest of the Country doesn’t, we’re anxious to find out what it is.

          • William

            Nancy Pelosi said “We have to pass the bill to find out what is in the bill.” So the fine too comb was not used.

          • Azra

            Not by her, I guess.

          • Gregg

            Nobody even read it!

          • Azra

            Republicans couldn’t be bothered to read anything beyond their own 200+ ideas which were incorporated into it. Nobody told them not to read it all; nobody from the left, anyway, so they have only themselves to blame.

          • Gregg

            Azra, not a single Republican voted for it in either chamber. You can’t blame Republicans one iota for Obamacare.

          • Azra

            They did contribute their ideas though, which were included. They still voted against it.

          • William

            Obama has failed despite attending some very good colleges.

          • Azra

            Failed? He graduated with honors, and became a professor of Constitutional Law.

          • Azra

            He’s also aware of the fact that the cold war ended twenty years ago; a good thing to know, if you’re running for Pesident.

      • JonS

        Do you ever have anything intelligent to say other than the idiocy you routinely spew?

        • Pagassae

          If it is intelligent, which it is, it goes way over your head dude. Check out your mirror and find exactly what I describe above.   Put on some shoes for a change…amnesiac.

      • ThePope

         Stop beating around the Bush, “Is your sister your mother?”

        • Pagassae

          Rumor has it that your sister teases you mercilessly, even during sex. Is that true?

      • Azra

        How many teeth do they have?

    • Terry Tree Tree

      NOT the amnesty that Ron Raygun GAVE, NOR the amnesty that ‘W’ GAVE!
         NOT amnesty, just work permits.
         Republicans twist ALL facts?

    • Azra

      What amnesty program?

      What destruction? He’s merely fulfilling another one of his campaign promises; the ones resposible for his landslide victory.

    • jimino

       As always, north is south on your compass.  Just remember, whatever you believe, the OPPOSITE is true. 

  • JGC

    I just read an article “Job Hunt” in the June 11 issue of Bloomberg Businessweek, and it had some interesting ideas for Americans looking for overseas employment.  O.K., now listen up, folks, because I am about to solve many of the ills plaguing the U.S. right now:

    According to BB, Brazil is the world’s 6th largest economy. And 64% of employers there find vacancies hard to fill. And here is the truly eye-popping piece of news:  Brazil apparently desperately needs “bankers, executives and hedge fund managers”(!)  Astonishing!

    So we must fast-track the exportation of our banking and hedge fund “talent” from our financial “industry”. This will perform two important functions: 

    1.) immediately decrease our trade deficit by approximately 5 trillion dollars

    2.) get rid of our pesky bankster problem

    Now, once we successfully supply Brazil with our overabundance of eager hedge fund managers, we should consider secretly deploying any additional managers in the banking “industry” to North Korea and Iran.  This should handily  cripple the economies of the last two members of the Axis of Evil. (We may need to raid our jail cells for our most potent secret financial weapons, specifically Bernie Madoff and Raj Rajaratnam.)

    Wharton and Harvard MBAs, JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs, Bain Capital, BofA, and all the rest:  Step up to the task; your country needs you. Just not here.  

    • Terry Tree Tree

      North Korea, Iran, Somalia, Sudan, and Djbuti FIRST! 
         Brazil has done nothing to the U.S., to deserve such!
          WHY would you want Brazil to declare War on U.S.?

      • JGC

        I have nothing against Brazil, but I am just trying to follow the law of supply and demand.  Maybe you are right, maybe we need to study this for any possible blowback from the Brazilians for that day when they realize what they have gotten themselves into…

      • Zero

        I think the Brazilians aren’t dumb enough to sell their government to the bankers.

        • JGC

          Unlike us!?

          • Zero

            Yes.  Unlike us.

        • Dan

           Who you calling dumb?  Clinton/Bush technocrats and banking pals in revolving doors have been doing all the “thinking” and acting for us, you don’t think our votes and representatives matter any more do you?

          Devolved power to the people?

          Rule of Law applied to all?

          Rule of Law and not technocrat discretion?

          Limited government constrained by the Constitution to restrain power?

          Competitive marketplace where too big to fail is not an option?

          Nah… that’s all too…….. 1800′s!

          I’m loving our benevolent dictatorship by finance elites, aren’t you?!?

    • JGC

      BREAKING NEWS:  Rajat Gupta applies for FairTrade Brazilian/U.S. Bankster Exchange Program…

  • elpelon1

    Mr. Beatty:
    Your dismissal of the House hearings on Operation Fast and Furious as conspiracy was very disappointing.  You miss the point.  No, you miss several points.
    Mr Obama has said, “transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstone of this presidency.”  The reluctant provision of a fraction of the subpoenaed documents and the 100% redaction of documents is not transparency.
    Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was allegedly killed by one of the rifles sent to Mexico during Operation Fast and Furious.  Mr. Holder’s Justice Department has dismissed Brian Terry’s family’s pleas for justice.
    The purported objective of Operation Fast and Furious was to follow the movement of guns to the Mexican drug cartels. How could the objective be met if the Mexican authorities were not notified and the guns were never tracked in Mexico?
    Why has no one been charged by Mr. Holder’s Justice Department with illegal movement of firearms into Mexico?
    You and too many other people have dismissed too much regarding Operation Fast and Furious.
    Shame on you, Mr. Beatty!

    • Worried for the country(MA)

       Jack also had the gall to blame the fast and furious incompetence on the Bush administration.  Sounds like the media matters propaganda that has been thoroughly debunked.

      Also, the actions of Holder in withholding disclosure has the smell of a cover up — especially after he was found to be lying to congress and had to retract his prior statements.

      • Gregg

        Well at least Jack didn’t say the criticism is racist in nature as Holder has said.

    • Dan

       Rule of Law, Obama Admin, like Bush etc before? Ha! Great lipservice.

      When was the last time an elite head rolled for screwing the American people by design and collusion?

      • Azra

        Thursday, as a matter of fact. In Dallas, billionaire R. Allen Stanford was sentenced to 110 years in prison, for running a massive Ponzi scheme.

    • Brettearle

      This entire investigation is a MAJOR political witchhunt
      –when you consider all of the CIA/FBI/DEA/ATF stings and operations that have gone awry, over the years….especially ones that we never hear about.

      This is simply another opportunistic venture, for the Congressional Republicans to get their politically-biased rocks off. 

      It is almost disgraceful.

      Really.

      • Azra

        Where did they get the money for all their bogus “investigations” over the years?

        • Brettearle

          What’s your point?

          • Azra

            ’nuff said.

      • elpelon1

        Mr. Beatty:
        Your dismissal of The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Hearing on Operation Fast and Furious as focusing on conspiracy was very disappointing.  You miss the point.  No, you miss many points.
        Mr. Obama has said, “transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstone of this presidency.”  Reluctant provision of only a fraction of the subpoenaed documents and 100% redaction of documents is not transparency.
        Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was allegedly killed by one of the rifles sent to Mexico in Operation Fast and Furious.  Why hasn’t Eric Holder’s Justice Department cooperated with Mr. Terry’s family to find out who OK’d the program that led to Mr. Terry’s death?
        The objective of Operation Fast and Furious was to track the movement of guns to drug cartels in Mexico. How could the objective be accomplished if Mexican authorities were not notified and the guns were not tracked in Mexico?
        Who is being prosecuted for illegally transporting guns to a foreign country?
        It seems that you and too many other people have been too dismissive of Operation Fast and Furious. 
        Shame on you, Mr. Beatty.
         

      • elpelon1

        What is disgraceful is the fact that Border Patrol Agent Terry was killed by a firearm from Operation Fast and Furious and no one has been held accountable.

        • Brettearle

          Oh, please….

          Mistakes, committed via American operations, on foreign soil and on domestic soil, are a dime a dozen.

          They happen every other day, under all administrations.

          Your so biased that you’re coming across as politically naive. 

          • Gregg

            My mommy got mad at me but I told her everybody does it.

          • elpelon1

            Mistakes are a dime a dozen.
            Tell that to Brian Terry’s family.

  • Gregg

    President Obama is getting desperate.  He can’t run on his dismal record. He tried attacking Bain and it backfired. Now he’s laughably back to blaming Bush. And what’s with his rehashing the same old speech that he’s rehashed before? It’s pitiful.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIL5xmSYj1o&feature=player_embedded#!

    • Azra

      The President’s record is the thing yhat will save him, especially when compared to Romney’s dismal record.

      NO CONTEST.

      • Worried for the country(MA)

         The President’s record?

        He is in way over his head and he knows it.

        4 years with NO budget while running up $5+ T in fresh debt is grounds for impeachment.

        November can’t come soon enough.

        Regarding, Mr. Romney.  As Bill Clinton stated, his record is “stellar”.  He has a successful record of turning around failing public and private enterprises.  And God knows, our Federal government is in need of a turn around.

        • Pagassae

          See above.

        • Roy Mac

          He has 100% more experience as President and Commander-in-Chief than Willard does, and those are the jobs up for election.

        • TFRX

          Mitt would be in for a shock when he can’t fire all the poor and working class people he becomes president of.

          CEOs are beholden to nobody. Presidents, not so much.

          And your idea of “impeachable” doesn’t even get the interest of Darrell Issa.

          • Gregg

            Why would he fire poor people? Is that a mindless reference to his statement that he likes to be able to fire people? If so, do you think it would be a good idea to not be able to fire people? I’ve fired many, some I hated to let go but had to. Others not so much.

          • TFRX

            I can explain it to you (that a CEO fires people but a president can’t just jettison working class and poor people, that he’s not just the president of the rich, that he’s the president of everyone).

            Apparently I can’t understanding it to you. I doubt anyone can.

          • Azra

            Hating it, (and having no choice but to let people go), and loving it are two very different things.

          • Gregg

            I love being able to fire people and hate doing it.

      • Pagassae

        And Romney’s career of Vulture Capitalism, and lies. As governor of MA, he left the state 47th in job creation, and over 2 BILLION more in dept. And he was a draft doger too. The man is a complete and total FRAUD.

        • Worried for the country(MA)

           Nice try with your spin.

          Romney left the state of MA with 4.7% unemployment — essentially FULL employment.  We would take that now in a heartbeat.

          btw – Romney would happily compare his record on debt and unemployment with Obama’s.

          The situation is much, much more dire now than the 8.2% unemployment rate.  New college grad unemployment and underemployment is 50%.  The underemployment rate for the total population is pushing 19%. 

          We are f’d unless we can turn this around quickly.

          • Pagassae

            You twist reality as always. I think that you have spent the past decade on another planet.

        • Azra

          What kind of candidate would run on improving the Economy, after his failure as governor? After he took office, the state he govered had almost the worst Economy of all FIFTY states! Talk about being out of touch, and having no common sense . . .

          He has to know that his record, (and all the lies), will be the first things to be brought up during the very first debate. All his campaign promises and accusations will be struck down right away, he will be asked to explain his “solutions”, and everyone will know how seriously inept and clueless he really is. There goes the rest of his campaign.

          Close race? I think not.

    • Azra

      Pitiful? It’s things people need to know.

      • Gregg

        Vast swatches of the speech were recycled word for word from as far back as a year. It’s the one thing most agree he is good at and now he’s just mailing it in. We’ve heard it before, it’s not working. Speechwriters get paid big money. For What?

        It’s pathetic.

        • Azra

          It’s all vital information that every American has a right to know. Why would he leave anything out?

    • Tfralphxout

      People still blame Bush. Unless I’d rather believe you over the reputable folks who take real polls.

      • Gregg

        So what? It just shows how people have been hoodwinked. I’m not talking about who gets blamed.

    • Brettearle

      We all have every right to blame what happened to the economy–before Obama took office.

      We also have the perfect right to point out that Romney’s greed is dependent on an anti-capitalist ethic:

      To draw profit and gain, without risk.  Which is what he basically did in private equity.

      A real hearty, courageous, gritty capitalist takes risk and becomes a VENTURE capitalist–not a VULTURE capitalist.  

      Romney is virutally a complete hypocrite.  He took his father’s money and leveraged into private equity greed.

      That’s what I call a real man who could lead men, in 2012–especially after the pain and the suffering, the country has gone through, as the result of the casino gambling on Wall Street that led to the economic collapse of 2007.

      Those who support Romney, we salute you:

      You’re his gladiators.

      Good luck in the Circus Maximus.

      • Gregg

        You have every right to write your own history and draw whatever conclusion you choose.

  • Gregg

    If Obamacare gets struck down by the SCOTUS the unemployment rate will begin to drop the next day. The DOW will skyrocket. Obama will take credit.

    • Azra

      It won’t be struck down. There would be rioting in the streets, if the People were denied this health insurance. Much easier just to do the right thing in the first place.

      • Gregg

        I read as: “Give me free stuff or I’ll revolt, the hell with the Constitution.”

        • Azra

          Better read again:

          ~ whitehouse.gov

          See? Not even a free pen when you sign up.

        • Worried for the country(MA)

           The founders warned against the masses voting for free stuff. We are very, very close but the sad truth is it theft from everyone’s children and grandchildren.

          • Pagassae

            Since you seem to represent the crazy right wing….what solution do you folks have to solve our broken health care system?

          • Brettearle

            Pagassae–

            I don’t want the Bill struck down either–but we might as well concede that the country, that you and I envision, may not be the country that has been envisioned, within the articles and the strictures of the Constitution.

            That could be the sad truth.

          • Azra

            Don’t expect an answer from anyone.

          • Azra

            Is there any chance that you know about the mysterious health care “free stuff” I’m trying to find out about?

          • Azra

            Please let me know what “free stuff” you’re referring to. I haven’t heard about this one yet, unless you mean the hated tax cuts for the elite, which are categorized as both “free stuff”, and “theft”. President Obama wasn’t resposible for that abomination, he just kept it on life support, when it had lived out its promised lifespan. (Thank you, party of “NO!”)

          • Gregg

            Cradle to grave health care.

          • Pagassae

            That is better than providing the MIC with our young people to die for nothing in endless wars.

          • Azra

            Will someone, ANYONE, please explain the “free stuff” to me? I’d really appreciate knowing. Thank you.

      • Brettearle

        Azra, you are NOT taking into account the politics of the court.

        And you are also not taking into account the problem that the Consititution might have with the compulsory factor overriding the commerce statute.

        I wish that would not be so–but I fear that it is.  At least as interpreted by Kennedy (and, it goes without saying, as interpreted by  Alito/Scalia/Roberts/Thomas).

        • Azrastarr

          Just a cockeyed optimist, I guess.

    • Pagassae

      As promised by your crystal ball?

      • Gregg

         No promises, just an educated guess.

        • Pagassae

          Let’s make your statement more accurate:

          Just a guess. 

          There, that is MUCH better, and more accurate.

        • Azra

          Just wishful, misguided thinking.

    • Brettearle

      Unfortunately, I don’t like to give you fuel–but the real unfortunate repercussion of the Supreme Court decision–should the the vote go against the Affordable Care Act–is that the Obama Presidency will go down.  Even without the shabby economic indices, that alone would likely bring it down. 

      • JGC

        I don’t agree.  I just don’t.    

        • Brettearle

          I hope that I’m wrong.

          But you are underestimating the Right Wing media propaganda that will blister the President–if the decision goes aginst him.

          It will have a vast and deleterious affect on his reelection chances. 

          And I think the Court, politically–including Kennedy–is going against the Bill.

          I hope all of this doesn’t happen–but I’m trying to be realistic.

          The Republicans have a dramatically different way of looking at things.  And they’re often better at getting their pathetic points across, including Scalia et al.

          That guy Scalia is a powerful danger.  

      • Gregg

        If I am right (I certainly may not be) and businesses begin to hire after being unshackled from Obamacare then it may actually help him. He can claim it was his policies that saved us as opposed to the truth: Obamacare being stuck down is the best thing that could happen to our economy.

    • Terry Tree Tree

      Health-Care costs will SKY-ROCKET!
         Because Health-Care EXECUTEives CAN!

  • gslouch

    No disrepect to Ms McCain, but the Republican party has absolutely remained the party of No.  There has been no compromise.   Instead of at least trying(def: to attempt with good intentions) to pass bills that may have helped create jobs they blocked any and every attempt by the president to alleviate the country’s dire situation.    I’ve lost count of the number of times president Obama requested removing the tax breaks for the elitely rich.  And as many times, the Repubs voted this down with impunity.  These are not elected officials who are out to better the lives of Americans, rather they are shameful fat cats comfortably ensconced in partisan muck.  I can only hope that somehow the president can win reelection because the alternative is unthinkable. 

    • Azra

      Dire. The end of America, as we knew it.

      • Brettearle

        The end of America, as we knew it, began well before 9/11; sped up after 9/11; and reached “irresistable force” velocity, after the economic collapse of 2007. 

        • Azra

          Sad, but very true.

    • Gregg

      Obama shut Republicans out of Obamacare negotiations (no). He told them to not “do a lot of talking” and to “sit in back” (no). He says they want dirty air and water. He says they don’t care about the elderly. The Republican House has passed 25 jobs bills (yes) while the Democrat Senate can’t even pass a budget (no).

      Your criticism is misplaced.

      • Roy Mac

        The teabaggers in the House insert the terms ‘Failed Administration Policy’ or ‘Job-Killing’ or ‘Jobs’ into every piece of legislation they pass, lock-step with Herr Norquist’s instructions.  They do this to make fools like you think they’re doing something other than making sure they get to keep their jobs at the public trough.

        • Gregg

          Norquist is irrelevant. 

          • Pagassae

            Norquist should be in jail for life. That corrupt evil doing criminal lobbyist.

          • Brettearle

            You’re blaming the wrong guy.

            They didn’t HAVE to fall into lockstep with the zealot.

            They CHOSE to.

          • Gregg

            Zealot? Lock step? What’s the big deal with pledging not to raise taxes in this economy? It’s common sense.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            PROVE IT?  HOW MANY ‘conservative’ Republicans have NOT signed Norquist’s ‘pledge’, that supercedes their oath to the U.S. Citizenry?

          • Warren

            I’LL TAKE THAT PLEDGE.WHERE DO I SIGN IN.NOT A PENNY MORE IN TAXES!!!!CUT,CUT,CUT,IT”S THE SOPENDING STUPID(J>CARVILLE)

        • Azra

          They know that their parrots will repeat, (word for word), whatever Republicans say, and will believe it all, no matter how bizarre, or implausable.

          Republican leaders are well aware that doing fact checks is anathema to their cult members, making them very easy to manipulate.

      • Azra

        They only call them jobs bills. Can you tell us about some of the jobs they’ve created?

        • Gregg

          They never got passed the House.

        • Warren

          26 bills have passed out of the house.They are blocked by Herr Reid

      • Azra

        Republicans DO want dirty air and water . . . but only for the 99%, not for themselves. All their dirty deeds must take place far from any of their homes, or those of their Big Biz cronies; “Not in my backyards!”

        It’s also very obvious that he doesn’t care about the elderly. Instead of doing whatever they can to help them out, and make their lives a bit easier, (as the President is doing), they seem to be purposely going out of their way to make things even more difficult and painful for them.

        If you doubt these truths, you only have to check out what they have voted for, and what they’re voting against. Finding out what they care about is simple, and very obvious. It’s not rocket science.

        • Azra

          CORRECTION, paragraph two:

          . . . very obvious that THEY don’t care . . .

        • Gregg

          I kind of feel sorry for you, I’m not sure why. Maybe it’s because you seem to really believe it which is better than knowing better and saying it anyway.

          • Azra

            It’s simple, really, you just have to get tough with yourself.

            ~

            Before automatically reciting your mantras, check facts instead. They will really open your eyes, and your mind.

          • Gregg

            I defy you to refute a single fact I cited.

          • Gregg

            Well?

          • Azra

            After a quick look here, couldn’t find any. Sorry.

      • JonS

        You have more patience than I .The left wing bloggers who have taken over this board are seemingly beyond any ability to engage in meaningful dialogue. Common sense, well-reasoned discussion , and most of all discourse and argument based on facts seems beyond most of them. Instead they engage in vapid left wing cliches and cartoon-like descriptions of conservatives spiced with the usual ad hominem attacks. I can think of only one poster from the left ( I believe TomK in Boston) who actually engages in an honest intellectual debate. The rest of them offer some of the most unintelligent simple minded and delusional crap I’ve ever read such as Azra’s comment below that Republicans want dirty air water and don’t care about the elderly. He is either profoundly stupid or so extreme in his hyper-partisanship that he wouldn’t know reality if it was steering him in the face.

        From reading his comments I doubt Azra has ever worked for any company or organization that has actually dealt with state and federal environmental statutes and regulations , including RCRA, Superfund, the Clean Air and Water act , TSCA, recycling, etc. I have for over 30 years ( including  the US NRC, EPA , and the environmental state agencies located in Ma., NH, Maine, Ky, Calif, NY and NJ,and  Penn.)  and I can honestly say that that I have never experienced any different enforcement initiatives no matter who controlled the White House..The parties debate at the extreme margins and it’s largely over off-shore drilling, the oil industry ,etc. while the rest of the 100K pages of fed and state environmental regulations are routinely enforced.

        • Gregg

          It’s funny, I thought the same of you. I understand that occasionally a tipping point is reached but most of the time I read your comments and think, “I couldn’t be that patient”.  I guess different commenters come across differently to each reader. I imagine Azra as a 25ish year old woman but I have no idea.

          • Azra

            Congratulations!

          • Gregg

            Stay curious. Keep asking questions but try not to believe the worst about people before you do. Most people are decent and want what is best for their families.

          • Azra

            Thanks. Will try to do better.

          • ThePope

             I think of her as a sixty year old woman who was from the Boston area but now lives on the Central Coast.

      • Terry Tree Tree

        PROVE, beyond the shadow of ANY doubt, that EVERY Oil EXECUTEive, EVERY COAL EXECUTEive, EVERY REFINERY EXECUTEive, EVERY EXECUTEive, or EVERY polluting business, LIVES within two miles, down-wind, and down-stream of their WORST pollution?
           HYPOCRITES?

        • Gregg

          Huh?

        • Warren

          A person who capitalizes is having a tantrum.He is yelling.And what is it you’re trying to say anyways

  • nj_v2

    Hmmm… Looks like the “new” Disqus sucked worse than the “old” Disqus, so now we’re back to the dismal version we know.

    Surely, there are better options out there. C’mon ‘BUR!

  • Paxtriot

    Q: What do you get if you cross a Soviet communist with a Wild West robber baron?

    A:  A republican operative. They seem to use the methodologies of the former to serve the interests of the latter.

    Anytime I hear Romney’s rhetoric, I want to puke.

    • Pagassae

      Calling Romney’s lies “rhetoric” is being far more kind and polite than he deserves.

  • nj_v2

    Weekly roundup of Rethuglicon turpitude:

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/14/500007/former-romney-adviser-republicans-are-rooting-against-the-economy/?mobile=nc

    [[ A media strategist who was a senior adviser to Mitt Romney when he ran for governor in 2003 said that he thinks Republican lawmakers are “rooting against the economy” to ensure that President Obama doesn’t win re-election. ]]

    http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_151/GOP-Begins-Judge-Blockade-215369-1.html?pos=hftxt

    [[ With less than four and a half months until Election Day, Senate Republicans are shutting off the bipartisan spigot when it comes to confirming President Barack Obama’s nominees to the nation’s top courts and will present a unified front against his circuit court picks through November. ]]

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/lisa-brown-shocked-republican-silence-vagina.php?ref=fpblg

    [[ Michigan state Rep. Lisa Brown (D) said she was “shocked” at the Republican effort to block her from speaking on the House floor after she used the word “vagina” in a speech this week.

    “I look at it as a war on women when our voices aren’t being allowed to be heard,” Brown told TPM Friday. It started when the Michigan Democrat on Wednesday delivered an impassioned speech against a series of bills regulating abortions. ]]

    • Azra

      Oh, brother! Weren’t they all adults?

      • Warren

        As of 10:OOAm Sunday,Pres.Obamas Chicago had twenty five shootings with ten dead.The days early.What’s more [perilous,Chicago,or Baghdad?

        • Azra

          Warren, have you gone off your medication again? You’re in the wrong place; i haven’t posted anything about Baghdad in what I posted Saturday at 9:19 p.m.. What’s more, I’m almost positive that I’ve NEVER made any reference here, to either one of those topics, and probably never will, yet you insist on attaching these cryptic replies, (in which you compare Baghdad to Chicago), to my contributions, which haven’t, even remotely, had a thing do do with your stock reply.

          As far as Iraq, I don’t know who to refer you to; probably someone in the Military, or Colin Powell, maybe? As far as gun control in Chicago, you might want to take that up with Chicago’s mayor, Rahm Emmanuel. He knows almost 100% more about those matters than I ever will.

          • Warren

            Your hero Al Shanker(head NEA)
            “When school children start paying dues,that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of children”No wonder half the Teachers in Wisconson quit the unions….

          • Azra

            Once again, I have no idea what you’re talking about, and have never heard of Al Shanker. What is wrong with you, and why do you insist on singling me out for your tyrades?

            Should I seek a court order of some kind?

          • Warren

            Your hatreds cloud your memory!!!

          • Azra

            What hatred? I don’t hate anyone.

        • jimino

          You can be the co-star of the new Fox reality show in which the Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld. Wofowicz, Feith and Rice families all move to Baghdad and live in the democratic nirvana they created.  Then we’ll know the answer.

          • Warren

             Greta Van Sustern,Geraldo,Bob Beckell,Juan Williams,Shep Smith,Alan Combs,Doug Shoen,Pat Cadell,Mara Liasson,Kristin Powers,Susan Estricgh,Lannie Davis.All Democrats working at FOX.

        • Terry Tree Tree

          Child-hood ingestion of Mercury and Lead showing again, Warren.   Don’t they have effective medications for that?

          • Warren

            Please listen to the commencement address of Herr McCallum.Quit being a helicopter parent.Live dangerously.

      • Terry Tree Tree

        A FEW of them are?

  • Dee

    The US/Zionists are escalating the violence & suffering in Syria

    Like so many people on the Left today I continue to believe the Zionist apologists in the US Senate John Mc Cain and Joe
    Lieberman and their cohorts in the US House John Boehner,
    plus the US Secretary of State , Hillary Clinton in the State Department are responsible for this American propaganda 
    war against the Syria to bring down the Syria leader……
    In addition, to those in the Right Wing/Zionist Think Tanksin Washington, such as Robert Keagan at the American Ent-er prize and John Bolton & Company in other US/ Zionist backed Think Tank for this American war of propaganda in Syria and for the shocking suffering & war crimes being per-petrating against the Syrian people today in our US name (indirectly, but directly to benefit the Zionist land thieves and war mongers in Israel. (See the URL below for more information  of this)..Now, it is interesting to note how the UN is now accusing those on ”both sides ” for escalating the conflict in Syria and for the failure of UN monitors and relief workers to assist the Syrian people in great need on the ground…..Shame , shame on those involved on the American side.As Ramsey Clark and other legal scholars have proposed those US/Zionist apologists need to be reined in today and charged their war crimes against the Syrian leadership and people….in our name.  DeeSyria, The Next “Humanitarian War” http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29234The Israeli Lobby, and the Zionist warning to Syria of “next” http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer/the-israel-lobbyNeocons not Mullah. would blow up the Middle East http://politicalcorrection.org/fpmatters/

    • Brettearle

      Of course, any time there is an uprising in a Middle East country, anti-Israeli advocates, such as Dee, always point to those news reports that support her claims of Israeli oppression and/or expansionism.

      But do the anti-Israeli screamers ever point to the recurrent and glaring reigns of oppression under which so many Middle East citizens have lived, over the decades and decades, at the hands of their own autocratic and despoitc governments?–regardless of so called US/Israeli hegemony? 

      No…..of course not.

      Nor do the anti-apologists ever speak of how the Palestinians have been treated, over the years, by their own brethren in other countries, or by the leaders of other Middle East countries.

      Of course not.

      Why?  Because that…doesn’t…..fit….their….biased agenda, now does it? 

    • Hidan

       I disagree on Zionist promotion of the Arab Spring but agree with you on there involvement in Sryia and Libya and trying there best to reverse democracy in Egypt. These actions can be seen with the U.S. of The Washington Institute for Near East Policy
      (WINEP) as “sic” unbiased experts which is mostly supported and the Arm of AIPAC. There efforts mostly failed in Tusina and are finally starting to see results in Egpyt after the Court voided the election results.

      NPR is bad about giving WINEP and many others but the whole syria think took them back at first due to the fear of Islamist taking over Syria and Israel and the U.S. much preferring “the devil you know”. And only after the U.S. ambassador running around syria did they find there puppets. Of Course the MSM or NPR should point out such agenda but sadly don’t

      http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy

      http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pro-Israel_lobby

  • Dee

    addendum

    Syria, The Next “Humanitarian War” 
    http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29234

  • JGC

    I was just helping my husband make sausage this evening (smoked pork, chicken and roasted garlic), and as I was turning the handle, my mind kept floating back to that great sausage-making body, the U.S. Congress.  I think part of our recent difficulty is that no one is willing to make the necessary compromises to the recipe to turn out the sausage.  

    A current example is the rapidly-announced new Obama administration immigration policy for young folks who were brought over the U.S. border by their parents, and who were brought up essentially as any American child, and would therefore make it difficult to return back to country of origin.  And then there is Marco Rubio’s version, still in development, but both policies being much the same in intent. 

    So here we are with both parties seemingly ready to address a difficult situation, and in a humane way that benefits that family and the U.S. populace at large. And instead we get talking points and stalemate, once again.

    Just make the sausage, guys.

    • Warren

      I understand that Politics in Canada is a bore,but I send you Martin and Harper,and Canada has never been more prosperous.Quit Bellyaching.

      • Terry Tree Tree

        THANKS for your support of Universal Health-care, Union workforce, and other sensible things that make Canada so sucessful!
            This means you will campaign for these commonsense things for the U.S., RIGHT?

        • Warren

          50% tax rates and 23% Vats….The Prime Minister ran to Florida for his heart operation.The wait was too long in Canada

          • Warren

            Premier of NewFoundland….Sorry

          • JGC

            50% is about right on the higher income rate (combined federal and provincial), but the GST/PST (essentially VAT) is a bargain 15%!

            Maybe you are thinking of the U.K. or maybe Australia when it comes to VAT…

            Happy Father’s Day, Warren.

        • JGC

          Right. I do.

      • JGC

        Canadian politics can be a little boring compared to the U.S., that is true. (See, Warren, even a bleeding heart Liberal like me can sometimes agree with you!)   Maybe when Texas finally decides to secede from the U.S., they could consider joining Canada, and that will make everyone happy:  Canada gets a southern retirement outpost, the U.S. gets rid of Texas and all their pesky Texan governors, and Texas gets access to Canadian oil sands, Canadian healthcare and poutine…True happiness all around. 

        I love a happy ending.

    • Azra

      Then there’s Romney’s version, which he hasn’t told anyone about yet.

  • Gregg

    President Obama is shamelessly pandering to Hispanics with his deportation executive order. According to him he cannot do what he is doing. Is he lying now or was he lying then?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=J9isifcg9ik

    • Pagassae

      And Romney shamelessly panders to right wing nuts. Was he lying then or is he lying now? I say he is a liar, and draft dodger, thru and thru, and has been his entire life. As well as a Vulture Capitalist, destroying the middle class as a Front Man for corporate interests.

      • Gregg

         Lame.

        • Pagassae

          Sorry you cannot face the truth. Deal with it. How is it that you right wing nuts think 2 + 2 is 6?

          • Gregg

            Face the truth of Obama’s double-speak if you can… please.

          • Pagassae

            Face the contradiction of your very existence….if you can.

          • Gregg

            Alrighty then.

      • Warren

        J.A…Please dude,spend more time outside.Do you ever get invited to parties?Make a point,spare us the innanity

      • Terry Tree Tree

        Corporate WELFARE is Romney’s base.  $ MILLIONS for MILLIONAIRES!

    • Brettearle

      You don’t like it because it puts Romney in an untenable position.

      It was actually a reasonably brilliant political move, backed up by heartfelt conviction.

      Deal with it–because, God willing, you might have to on election day.

      • Gregg

        I’ll mark you down as “He was lying then”.

        PS – Please don’t tell me what I think.

        • Pagassae

          Your comments prove that it is apparent that you do not think…so any help you receive should be appreciated.

          • Gregg

            It’s a simple question. It can’t be both.

      • Azra

        Keeping promises is a good thing.

  • Azra

    To all who read this:

    The other day, I found out about “free stuff” in health care, (from what I gather, but maybe not), but can find no reference to this anywhere. In spite of my pleas at this blog, (there hasn’t been a single response), free stuff remains a mystery to me. Any help, clues, or even guesses, will be greatly appreaciated.

    Thank you.

    • Pagassae

      Have you ever heard that there is no such thing as a free lunch….?

      • Warren

        Democrat Albert Einstein gave us the A-Bomb.Republican T.Edison said”let there be light”(bulbs)

        • Pagassae

          Get a new slogan, you have worn this one out.

          • Warren

            Get a new logo please

          • Pagassae

            Wrong term….you are confused as always. Some things never change and are set in cement.

        • Zero

          Read about Tesla vs. Edison. 

          Sorry to interject in your tedious ramblings.

        • J__o__h__n

          George W Bush banned the 100 watt bulb.

    • Gregg

      You haven’t looked very hard.
      Medicare recipients will receive a $250 rebate to help close the Doughnut hole… for free.If you have a pre-existing condition the extra coverage will free.Health insurance plans must provide coverage for preventative services with no out of pocket cost (free).Companies that offer health benefits for early retirees ages 55 to 64 will receive assistance from a temporary reinsurance program… for free.Medicare will offer wellness visits for free one a year and personalized prevention plans. All new Medicare plans will offer preventative services with no out of pocket cost (free).A small business alternative to a cafeteria plan will be presented so that small businesses can offer tax free benefits without having to deal with the administrative costs (for free) of a cafeteria plan.There’s more: http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Christian-Personal-Finance/2010/0325/What-Obama-s-new-health-care-bill-means-for-us

    • Warren

      absolutely nothing comes for free

      • Gregg

        So true perfessor but context is key. You are looking at the big picture, narrow your mind. Liberals consider money confiscated, borrowed or printed by government to be free and endless. They are entitled to it.

        • Warren

          Who spends your money more effeciently????The tax payer or the Feds.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            HOW MANY of you self-righteous ‘tax-payers, have built YOUR OWN road, for miles, to the nearest city?
               HOW MANY of you ‘conservative’ ‘tax-payers’ build AIRPORTS at BOTH ends of your flights?
                Other than Mafiosa, Drug Cartels, and other criminal groups, have paid for provided police protection for EVERYONE?
               HOW TWISTED are those ‘chemicals’ that you ingest, going to make you?

          • Warren

            A SHRINK WOULD CALL YOU A FAILED MAN.oNE OF LITTLE ACCOMPLISHMENT WHO BRINGS COVETS SUCESS AND  BringsPETTY JEALOUSIES TIO AN ARTFORM.wHAT SANE mAN WOULD cALL cLICK AND cLACK gREDDY?

          • Warren

            Who Covets success

      • Azra

        Thanks for that, but I’m none the wiser.

        • Warren

          Medusa claims latinos would never vote Republican.What a hoot.The last two presidents of Mexico were Republicans.Ms Mota will win this current field

          • Azra

            Huh?

      • JGC

        My wisdom comes to you all for free.  At the moment.

    • JGC

      I suggest go to the source to find the information.  One site is 

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/health-care/

      and another link from there is  www.HealthCare.gov

      O.K. I am going to post this, and re-check it, and if there is a problem, I’ll get back on to let you know.

  • Warren

    On Meet the Press,a Dem.panelist mentioned that the President’s plan for amnesty, was not political.Gaffaws were had by all.
         Mr.Holder,head of the Dept.of Siocial Justice has enjoined Florida.They cannot purge the 150,000 contested names.Here’s how it works Mr.Holder.My father was a staunch conservative and voted straight Republican until the day he died.Now he votes Democrat.

    • Terry Tree Tree

      Amnesty?  Like Ronnie Raygun gave?  Like A’W'OL Bush gave?  NOT!!
         Corporate WELFARE ‘conservative’ Republicans WANT the cheap labor, that they can ABUSE, STEAL FROM, and otherwise be cruel to, with the AIM of doing the same to U.S. Citizens!

    • J__o__h__n

      Will the dead who have been baptized by the Mormons be voting for Mitt?  That might help with the Jewish vote in Florida. 

  • Warren

    President Clinton and Governor Cuomo have now said “Frack baby Frack”

  • Terry Tree Tree

    Pope Benedict ADMITS he is too stupid to understand WHY priests MOLEST and ABUSE CHILDREN?
       Aren’t there ANY intelligent Catholics?
       Any MORAL Catholics?

    • Azra

      Not in high places.

    • Warren

      WHAT percent of these PRIESTS are Liberals.In Boston it WAS 100%.ONLY the addlepatesd CAPITALIZE

      • J__o__h__n

        What percentage of the bishops who covered it up are Republicans?

        I agree with you on ending annoying capitalization. 

    • Gregg

      Certainly not John Kerry. He’s filthy rich too. I’m sure you couldn’t have voted for him. Joe Biden is also a Catholic. Then there’re these:

      http://www.catholicdemocrats.org/news/2008/12/all_catholic_democrats_in_cong.php

      Every one is immoral and unintelligent, right?

  • Shoto

    General, brief comments about the format of the show.  To wit:

    1.  Please lose that HORRID, AWFUL, NERVE-RACKING “theme music.”  It’s gone from merely tedious to downright dreadful.  It’s way past time to replace that sonic pollution.

    2.  A commercial three or four times / hour is unacceptable.  (And as an aside:  “Liberty Mutual.  Responsibility: What’s your policy?”  Aside from being overtly stupid and pandering, what, exactly is it supposed to mean?  Just idiotic.)  The show needs to be funded.  We get the picture.  No need to beat it to death.  This sort of repetition does nothing more than make me contemptuous of the show and its sponsors.  Get a clue.

    3.  While Mr. Ashbrook’s sentiments would seem to be in the right place, his propensity to yammer incessantly, to constantly interrupt his guests and/or not to let them get a word in edgewise is unacceptable.  There is no need to say in one thousand words what can more succinctly be articulated in ten; if the guests aren’t allowed to adequately convey their message, then can we assume they have nothing serious to say?  Think about it:  Is it an AM “talk radio” format that you’re shooting for, or something that is supposed to be imparting actual, ya know, real information?  You can’t be both…you just simply cannot.

    I doubt any of these quite valid points will be read, let alone acted upon.  However, to the extent they are ignored, you may expect that I, for one, will likewise ignore the show.

    Simply stated:  I just can’t take the format any longer.  It’s really gotten bad.  Like…way bad.

    • JGC

      Bye Bye.

  • Zero
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