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Solutions In Syria

Syria gets grimmer by the day. How bad could this get -– and what in the world can be done to put a stop to it.

This image made from amateur video released by Shaam News Network and accessed Friday, June 1, 2012, purports to show the bodies of Syrian workers who were killed near Qusair, in Homs province, Syria. Gunmen killed several workers at a state-owned fertilizer factory in a volatile central Syrian province, activists said Friday, the second execution-style shooting reported in Syria in less than a week. The shooting near the town of Qusair in Homs province occurred Thursday as the workers were on their way to their jobs in a bus that came under fire, said the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. (AP)

This image made from amateur video released by Shaam News Network and accessed Friday, June 1, 2012, purports to show the bodies of Syrian workers who were killed near Qusair, in Homs province, Syria. (AP)

The fighting and killing in Syria is a brutal test of the world’s tolerance for slaughter. The regime of Bashar al Assad must go and will go, says U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. But it is definitely not gone.

In the village of Houla, 34 women, 49 children, entire families, gunned down at close range. Thousands dead over many months. From neighboring Turkey, the prime minister decries the abandonment in Syria of “reason, sense, conscience, intelligence and mercy.” In blood. So now what?

This hour, On Point: what to do about Syria.

-Tom Ashbrook

Guests

Andrew Tabler, senior fellow, Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Author of “In the Lion’s Den: An Eyewitness Account of Washington’s Battle With Assad’s Syria.” You can read his latest piece on Syria here.

Fawaz Gerges, professor of Middle Eastern politics and international relations at the London School of Economics and Political Science. His latest book is Obama and the Middle East: The End of America’s Moment? You can read an excerpt here.

From Tom’s Reading List

Foreign Policy “Many in Washington are frustrated, and are urging the United States do, well, something. But a key question lingers for Americans: Do they actually want to use their own military might to stop the killing in Syria?

Al Jazeera “Speaking to Al Jazeera from Geneva, Laura Dupuy Lasserre, the permanent representative of Uruguay to the UN and also the president of the Human Rights Council, said the council holds the Syrian government responsible for the violence in Houla.”

Los Angeles Times “Allegations of a fresh massacre in Syria surfaced Friday as activists  said security forces shot and killed 12 factory workers returning home from work in a bus near the town of Qusayr in the restive province of Homs.”

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  • Mohammed52

    We should quit arming the “dissidents” and pretending our hands are clean. NPR and the American media need to stop lying to the American public. We started the crap to protect Israel and do the ground work to invade or assault Iran, the whole world knows the difference. NPR has no more credibility than CNN or FOX in this matter. Lets talk Bahrain, will you!

    • Roy Mac

      Good idea.  The west never suggested any of this; let the islamist nutjobs kill one another till it’s worked out.

      • No more US wars for Israel

        If that scenario doesn’t pan out Roy Mac, then the Zionist nutjobs who want regime change in Syria and Iran will be more than happy to come in and finish the job with their US taxpayer supplied F-15, F-16 and 8,000 pound bunker buster bombs.

      • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

        Racist.

    • Hidan

      Right. The U.S. has been arming the Free Syrian Army(proxy of course), not covering the real Islamist there(like the sucide bombing that killed 50 and injured 400) so that when the FSA is doing the killing it’s reported as protecting the city/town and when there die they become activist/citizens once again.

      I love to see Assad go but once again the Media and our government is lying to the people and manufacturing alot of stuff while omitting other that does not fit the U.S. government line. Turkey is one of the few countries that should be front line against Syria not the U.S. or the Despotic Gulf states.

    • Paolo

       CNN is bad enough, but the BBC has to be the most rabid propagandists and outright liars.

      Particularly in the case of Syria.  The BBC won’t let up on the Assad regime for a minute.  Virtually all day long.  The BBC along with the rest of the mass media had been hijacked for a long while now.

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      US Mideast policy has always been constrained by the Israel lobby, but never controlled or determined by it. 

      That’s just as much propagandistic myth as the pretense that we protect and encourage popular democracy.

  • Jacob Arnon

     ”NPR and the American media need to stop lying to the American public.”

    What lies are those, and who exactly do you support, the Assads of Syria? The ayatollahs of Iran? Those “freely elected” dictators?

    • No more US wars for Israel

      The American MSM is controlled by Zionists who will not allow negative or critical coverage of the ethnic cleansing or the racist apartheid policies that Zionist Israel is committing in Gaza and the West Bank against the Palestinians.

      • Jacob Arnon

        Typical Jew hater’s paranoia about Jews. 

        • No more US wars for Israel

          Typical Palestinian/Arab hater who agrees with Israel’s policies of Ethnic Cleansing against Palestinians suffering under Zionist occupation in Gaza and the West Bank.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            Typical sandbox “I know you are but what am I?” tit for tat childishness (from both of you).

          • No more US wars for Israel

            What’s the matter?

            Did the short bus not pick you up this morning?

      • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

        Ideological simplification is comforting for small minds, but doesn’t reflect the complexity of reality.

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      Let’s not confuse “freely elected” (however free most elections truly are) with good leadership.

      Fidel Castro, for instance, is almost certainly the greatest national leader of the 20th century, without having been elected except indirectly by the half-century support of his people (all but the mafia and other capitalists and imperialists).

  • No more US wars for Israel

    Why isn’t the US concerned about the killings and human rights abuses going on in Bahrain?

    Now I remember why, because Bahrain is home to the United States Fifth Fleet, so the US is more than happy to look the other way since the US doesn’t want the Bahrani goverment to tell them to leave.

    The US has CIA agents stirring up trouble in Syria because the US wants to take out Assad and set up another one of their puppet states in the region.

    When Assad is toppled in Syria, the US will start a war with Iran because the US and Israeli goverments want regime change in Iran. 

    Syria is Iran’s closest ally in the region.

    Israel completely controls US foreign policy in the Middle East and Israel is beating the drums for war with Iran.  Israel is not nearly powerful enough to take on Iran by itself and will desperately need the American war machine to help take out Iran, which Zionist-lackeys like Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and our Congress will be more than happy to provide.

    • Jacob Arnon

      Another paranoid pro Hezbollah leftist Jew hater. 

      • No more US wars for Israel

        Jacob Arnon,

        Another apologist shill for the apartheid state of Israel that steals from Palestinians and practices Ethnic Cleansing against Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.

        • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

          Typical sandbox “I know you are but what am I?” tit for tat childishness (from both of you).

          Everyone who sees the world through a single, narrow lens view any criticism as the full embodiment of evil (since they themselves, of course, are the embodiment of good).

          Only fools, idiots and ignoramuses see the world in black and white.

          • No more US wars for Israel

            A fool?

            An idiot?

            An ignoramus?

            Yes, that just about sums you up.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

      Israel has not said anything about the Syrian conflict.

      • No more US wars for Israel

        Israel wants regime change in Syria because Syria is Iran’s closest ally.

        When Assad is toppled and some US puppet is installed in Damascus, the US and Israel will attack Iran, which may include the possible use of nuclear warheads.

        A US-Israeli war with Iran is on, anyone who doesn’t thinks so is ignoring the facts on the ground.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

          SO YOU RATHER KEEP THE SYRIAN REGIME THAT BOOTING HIM OUT OF SYRIA.

          YOU SO PATHETIC. I RATHER BE DEMOCRATIC ISLAM LIKE TURKEY THAN HAVING A BRUTAL DICTATOR.

          • No more US wars for Israel

            Is Libya democratic now that the U.S. overthrew Gaddafi and replaced him with a bunch of thugs who have ties to al Qaida?

            Was it democratic when the CIA backed Libyan rebels lined up Black African laborers in Libya and shot them in cold blood?

            You have no idea of what you’re talking about.  You’re completely ignorant of the facts.

            You should stop blogging immediately before you embarrass yourself any further.

          • Hidan

             All Caps is considered Yelling.

          • No more US wars for Israel

            He can’t help it.  He’s completely ignorant.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            What, then, is your excuse?

          • No more US wars for Israel

            This is serious discussion about current events for adults only,

            which means you have no place here.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            Someonewho calls himself “No More US Wars for Israel” hardly evidences maturity or intelligence.

        • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

          No one in the Pentagon favors even a limited military strike against Iranian nuclear facilities, and no one is going to use nuclear weapons.

          You live within a counterfactual fevered imagination that simplifies the world into something that fits a Manichean ideological worldview.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

      If you remember the history. the Palestinian people sold the land to the United Nation but some were against it and started the war and even since it never stop.

      Philistines always wanted to rule Israel. it is written in the bible but the land belongs the Jewish people.

      • Hidan

         Wrong again,

        Gods not a real-estate agent .

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

          United Nation is not God.
          Go back to school and read more middle eastern history

        • No more US wars for Israel

          Thank you.

      • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

        If you remember the real, as opposed to the mythological, history, Britain mandated the creation of Israel within Palestine without the consent of the Palestinian people, and the early Zionist settlers engaged in ethnic cleansing to drive the Palestinians off their land.

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      US Mideast policy has always been constrained by the Israel lobby, but never controlled or determined by it.
       
      Ideological simplification is comforting for small minds, but doesn’t reflect the complexity of reality.

      • No more US wars for Israel

        It’s obvious that your small mind is not capable of understanding this complex geo-political problem.

        • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

          How is it possible that such ignorance can find its way to such an important discussion?

          How about using your real name so you can be held accountable for your idiocy and immaturity?

  • http://twitter.com/UncleSam12712 UncleSam13713

    no solution

  • SiDevilIam

    My Dear Tom, Oops, Tonton Macoute (“Uncle Gunnysack”) bogeyman Ashbrook,

    I am Sid Harth.

    Sorry to rain on your parade.

    Get a wife, Oops, life.

    NPR getting down and dirty? What the world is coming down (with)?

    Down Syndrome?

    …and I am Sid Harth@mysistereileen.com

    • Irv West

      If you have nothing to say, why do you feel the need to say it anyway?

    • Matt

      Great, another poet….

    • stephenreal

      dude are you simple or something? bacause you come across as slightly slow…ahhh maybe you forgot to take your pill…?

  • Victor Vito

    They’re Russia’s buddy, let them handle it.  How about the UN?  Why us?  Why our blood and our money?

    If we say “no more silly foreign wars” and “no more American hegemony” for long enough, maybe it will stick.

    Tragedy and suffering all over the world everyday, not especially interested in Syria.  Sorry!

  • stephenreal

    thank god moral cowardice runs in your family…you have premission to hide under your bed while the big boys handle reality and the world as it is Victor

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      Try hitting the “reply” button so we know who you’re talking to and so he has a chance to respond.

    • Victor Vito

      What does all of your foolish bluster MEAN?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

    The Syrian people needs medical supplies, armaments and food. Foreign ground troops cannot be involved in Syria. NATO can use air support but have to dog fight the Syrian Air Force.

    The SYRIAN people has to rise up and fight to the bitter end to create democracy in Syria. Like the Libyan the entire country was against Khadafi but in Syria only 1/2 of the population are against the regime.

    • Hidan

       Libya was a failure, especially for the Africans of Libyan orgin(who were raped,abused,tortured and killed for being African) Many of the same people who fought the U.S. in Iraq and Afghanistan are now in power and along with Real Islamist are in power as well.

      Plus the U.S. and Nato abused toe resolution and did very little in protecting civilians or simply not care with Africans were the ones being abused

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

        Hello the Libyan people STARTED THE UPRISING BECAUSE THEY SAW IT FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS LIKE EGYPT OR WHAT THE AMERICAN MEDIA NAMED THE Arab Spring.

        The US never told the Libyans to rise against Khadafi., Libyan people like the Egyptian people decided enough is enough.

        Why are so NAIVE about the People Power of those people. NATO or USA only got involved when the Libyan people asked for HELP!!!!!

        the rest is HISTORY!!!!!

        • Hidan

           Again you have no clue what your talking about, Eastern Libya rose against Gaddafi cause there were mainly pissed about Gaddafi wanted Libya to be more African than Arab(many in the TNC are just as Authoritarian has Gaddafi was). Per previous U.N. reported Easter Libya was one of the most racist towards Africans. The U.S. used Nato as the TNC Air-force after the TNC promised to redo the oil contracts  with some of the oil companies per the Telegraph.

          As for Egypt the U.S. government backed Mubarak till the end and than backed his F.M. The Saudis were pissed the U.S. didn’t do more and the U.S. went to Saudi Arabia and promised to provide more arms to them so they could stop democracy in there area.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            LOL!!! okay rest my case.

            Libyan are Africans because they live in the continent of Africa but their Nationality are Libyans.

            Is that the reason they wanted Khadafi out? LOL that is the most idiotic reasons I ever heard about the Libyan war.

          • Hidan

             Again no clue,

            You have to make a case first before you can rest it. Once again you show you lacking in the history department. Idiotic is to believe that the U.S. helped the TNC solely based on Humanitarian reasons and the TNC wanted freedom and democracy

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            What is Libay now? A free nations. If Libyan people wants Islamic that there decision not USA. Keep complaining it will not change Libya. That’s the truth you Do Not Get!!!

      • stephenreal

        well, a Moammar Khadafi supportor…just like the Russians who supported khadaffi…and what happen to those clowns again? Oh yeah they got thrown out of the country for supporting the dictatorship! Clever Russians…they are just so damn smart.

        • Hidan

          The U.S. was still selling Arms to Gaddafi weeks into the War. McCain Even praised Gaddafi not to long ago 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

        Who cares that is the problem of the Libyan people but they did asked help from the Americans and NATO.

        DON’T TELL ME YOU ARE SMARTER THAN THE SMARTEST WOMAN IN THE PLANET MRS. HILLARY CLINTON!!!!

        • Hidan

          Hillary is a lying Hack I don’t take anything she say seriously. 

          I’m sure Libyans of African origin care

  • Hidan

    The U.S. is a Hypocrite in the strongest terms, for one the White House used Loop-holes to sell arms to Bahrain even after Human Rights Reports came out saying the Bahrain government is pretty much doing what the Syrian government is doing now.

    Before that the U.S. Government sold arms to Saudi Arabia after the fall of Mubarak and after the house of Sand banned protest with the threat of death.  

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

      Bahrain is not killing each other compared to Syria.

      • Hidan

         Wrong again,

        Human Rights reports show Bahrain did and still is, not only protestors but Doctors,Bahrain also has a tactic in which they go to shia Villages and start shooting so protesters return home to protect there family.

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17796833

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366749/Bahrain-protester-shot-point-blank-head-5-killed-violent-clashes.html

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

          There are thousands of Filipino workers in Bahrain so stop makine false statements. if you want to help go to Syria and fight the regime. Your comments will not stop the Syrian people from fighting against the brutal regime. You DONT KNOW YOUR GOALS IN LIFE.

          Your knowledge is out of this world.

          • Hidan

             So what if their thousands of Filipino working in Bahrain? It has no bearing on what I said above.

            My comments are still True and the Bahraini government is abusing and killing it’s protestors(like in Syria).

            As for your personal attac,k i’m leagues ahead of you on what’s going on in the World  and unlike you can get my dates right.

            Read up and maybe you’ll learn something.

            http://www.bahrainrights.org/en

            http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/our-work/human-rights-defenders/bahrain/?gclid=CIb_zIPKtLACFQjf4Aodez8HTA

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            SO!! What do you want us to do? What is your message?

            This morning 2 girls were shot in Cambridge while sitting at their front deck. one is dead and the other is critically wounded. Violence is everywhere.
            Can you also help those kids by finding their shooter?

          • Hidan

             If one knows the description of the the shooter and comes across them one could. If one sold the shooters the weapons used to kill the little girls than ones has some type of responsibility for the little girls deaths.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            If there’s a political Instability in Bahrain. the Philippine Government Will evacuate all Filipino workers in Bahrain but as for now there are no news in Manila that there are chaos in that region so stop assuming that there will be.

            Stop your insanity about USA. it will just drive you Nuts. Whatever you do whatever you write it will not stop the almighty dollar from selling arms to those region. where there is money there are chaos. where there is chaos there is profit.

          • Hidan
          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            What do you want me to do? And Do you want Ameriva help Bahrain? What are you trying to say? We don’t get your message or your goals.

          • Hidan

             Read, cause as of now you still have no clue what your talking about

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

          Bahrains atrocities has nothing to do with the US government. it is Bahrains problems. There are human rights abused in the Philippines did the Filipino blamed the US government for the chaos. NO!!! We blame the People who pulled the the trigger not the people from 6,000 miles away from Mindanao.

          Stop making a political messages that has no basis of executing a politcal goal or the purpose of eliminating the problems.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

            I think the message is that wherever American military/corporate forces go, so do atrocities.   We’ll try to starve Iran to death because they’re living up to their end of the bargain when it comes to Uranium enrichment.  And we do it with a scary sense of righteousness.  Yet we do nothing to Israel, who hold nukes, and refuse inspection.  The hypocrisy is simply intolerable.

            So the least an “honest” America can do is tell Bahrain to “quit the killing, or we’re out of here.”  But we’re not doing that.  Because we’re not the good guys.  America no longer has a right to talk about morality, or right and wrong, for that matter.  We suck.

    • stephenreal

      raelly dude? really? Are you suggesting an invasion of Bahrain? Beccause it sure does read that way.

      • Ray in VT

        I don’t read it that way.  My take on Hidan’s statement is that while we condemn state-sponsored violence in one country we support it in another in the same region.

        • Hidan

           Bingo.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

          Please do you actually believe Hidan.
          Syrian created their own rebellion against their regime and the same is happening in other Arab countries because from what they have seen from other Arab countries.

          it has nothing to do with American Gov’t getting involved.

          • Ray in VT

            I don’t think that that is what he’s implying.  I’ve heard some news stories regarding the Bahraini government, which I understand is dominated by Sunnis, violently suppressing protests by the Shiite majority.  I think that his point is that by selling arms to the government of Bahrain the U.S. is enabling that repression.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            Please Bahrain can get arms from China, Russia, South African or Abubakar.

            It will not stop Bahrain from purchasing arms if American will not sell them.

            They can get Arms dealer and those guns, tanks or planes are readily available to order at any militatary contractors all over the world. it doesn’t have to be direct from the US Government.

          • Ray in VT

            Oh, they certainly get arms from any number of other sources.  I suppose the question should be should we be selling arms to such a government and do we bear any responsibility for what they do with them, given what they have done with them in the past.

          • Hidan

             He’s not informed enough to get it and it’s sad.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

    As a Filipino in Boston and experienced American government involvement in the Philippines. I should say that the Philippines were better off with the American bases like Subic and Clark Air Base. It helps the economy of the Philippines.

    I saw the bases and hated the Sonic Boom that the American pilots created during their military excercises but loved Px goods that they supplied the
    The US Bases also provided security from China’s aggressions of the Spratly Islands.

    • Paolo

       Yeh,  I guess all the bar and brothel owners miss those American dollars.  But at least the Filippino people regained their dignity and their daughters.

      The US military sure does miss Saigon and Subic days where females were a major perk.  In Moslem M.E. the US is forced to recruit more females and give huge bonuses to keep the troops happy.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

        Please stop making Filipinas like prostitute there are more prostitute in Las Vegas than Subic and Clark combined and did you went to Thailand when prostitution is Legal with AIDS.

        You never went to my country see the smiling faces of the Filipinos. So stop making claim to fame for being anti-America.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

        if a person wants to a prostitute it is their choice not you and me. They were forced to make a living out of sex it is their choice. Stop making false statements about other people lives because they choose to do what they want to do.

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      So the bribes were worth the price? 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

        What bribes are you talking about. If the Filipinos like the Americans it is their choice and I know a lot Filipinos are not against Americans in the Philippines including me. We even vote for the Philippines to become 51st States of USA.

  • No more US wars for Israel

    Suicide for sale: Saudia Arabia gets cash for blood in Syria

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkpa9guxSM&feature=relmfu

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

      Muslims people should start helping each other. Thousands are getting killed and those Arab nations just sitting on their cash and oil while the Syrian people are getting butchered.

      They HATED AMERICANS and now they need help?

      It doesn’t make any sense to me?

      What is Israel got to do with Syrians uprising.
      Do you want Israel to save the Syrian people?
      but if they do that the Arab people THINK again the Israel is invading Syria.

      • No more US wars for Israel

        Israel already invaded Syria,

        they did it in 1967 and Israel STOLE the Golan Heights from the Syrian people and they refuse to return it to Syria, 45 years later.

        • William

          The winner gets the spoils and Israel won.

          • No more US wars for Israel

            So whoever has the biggest gun gets to lie, cheat, steal, and break all the rules?

            Thanks for explaining the criminal code of ethics to me.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            The problem is not Israel the problem is Syria.

            I am Roman Catholic and I will defend every Jews in the Planet.

          • William

            It is about which is a better nation and Israel is a better nation.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

          It is the other way around my friend and Israel won just like Mexico lost California.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6CO5C2HE4WM2OYGCDVWGPRXXM oldman

    The world will continue wringing its hands over Syria – but there doesn’t appear to be any will to actually do anything about it. And as long as the only thing being lost is lives, there probably won’t.

  • Samer Mosallam

    The host introducing Bashar Al Assad as the “dictator of Syria” Speaks for the general tone being set for this segment.  It is not an impartial conversation.

    • jefe68

      You have to be kidding. Are you saying that Assad is not a dictator? The man rules with an iron fist and the evidence, what one can make if it, seems to point to this without a doubt. Clearly you are supporting a despot.

  • J__o__h__n

    The Arab Spring isn’t going to end well.  Dictators will be replaced by religious extremists.  They can’t wait to use their new freedoms to start banning things and requiring headscarves:  http://www.npr.org/2012/06/04/154149524/some-taboos-vanish-in-tunisia-replaced-by-others

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

      You are not Arab and you don’t live there. So stop wishing for another demise of Arab people. i never wish those things to come true because i want Egypt and other Arab nations to rise up against oppression and the EGYPTIAN PEOPLE DID THAT and other Arab countries will soon follow.

      if you want to stop terrorism the Arab people will stop terror for us for they want change in their land.

      • J__o__h__n

        I’m not wishing for their demise but I see little evidence so far that a free society will emerge.  Did you read the link?  Islamists are already imposing their restictive agenda in Tunisia.  The Egyptian people are having elections but look who is being elected. 

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

          If the Filipino people voted the people who committed atrocities. Can you and me stop them? No. Even Imelda Marcos, Bongbong Marcos and other Marcoses are still in office. Did the politics of the Philippines changed to a dictatorial? no. it is the will of the people to vote for them so be it.

          Just in American Bush screwed up big time but the American people still voted for his second term.

          • J__o__h__n

            We didn’t vote for him the first time.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            But Bush still won the election.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            NO.  ‘W’ Bush got the selection, by a Supreme Court, that went against the law, to select him!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

    I never really understood how the public could take the claims being made against Syria, seriously.  Damn near every MSM piece I’ve seen/heard about what’s going on in Syria has been labeled “unverified”.  I feel like the American public is being served a cruel plate of propaganda, only showing one side (most likely a manufactured side) of the conflict.  

    Just as we’re lying our asses off about Iran, when Israel sits on nuclear warheads, refuses inspections, refuses to sign on to the NNPT, and still get aid from us (Which sounds like a violation of our own Symington Amendment).  

    But I’m suppose to believe that Assad is evil and out there massacring folk.  What about the claims of Terrorists (backed by us in one way, or another) committing these god-awful crimes?

    I don’t trust our own media anymore.  The propaganda has become way too disrespectful.

    • Samer Mosallam

      I very much agree with you victor; As a Syrian having access to people inside Syria, I have heard many accounts of atrocities by both sides in the conflict.  However, It is always the Syrian government that is portayed as the offender in the traditional western media.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

        President Reagan defended Marcos until the Filipinos were inside Malacanang Palace did you heard or see the Filipinos destroying the US Embassy in Manila?

        Nope!!! it is the mentality of the people.

        Did you see the Egyptian people burning the US Embassy in Cairo? No

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

        Even listening to NPR reports of the conflict, I can hear the inflection of sarcasm in their voices when they rarely mention the Assad Administration’s claims of terrorist activities at the heart of the violence, and destabilization.  It’s awful.  It’s like Iraq, and Afghanistan didn’t happen. Like we weren’t lied to, before.  

        Am I the only one who finds it odd that we never get direct information from the Assad government?  Just our take of what he said, and our interpretation of what he means.  Cable companies need to provide access to international news.  Iranian news. Syrian news.  Etc…

        I just don’t believe “Us” anymore.

        I have to go to foreign news sources to find out that a lot of Afghan people believe that Sgt. Robert Bales wasn’t the lone gunman in the Panjwai Massacre.  That there were more boots on the ground involved in those murders.  But don’t hold your breath waiting to hear this stuff on CNN/FOX/MSNBC, etc…

        Our media, in the States, sucks.  It truly does. 

    • Terry Tree Tree

      MANY Countries, including U.S., have the capability to verify news from Syria!  Satellites, SR-71s, Aurora, Surveilance Stealth Drones, etc…

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

        Thanks.  Because this begs the question, with all of the tech we have at our disposal, why is it only “Unverified” when presented to us?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

    No More US Wars for Israel: First of all when did USA fought for Israel. Did American helped Israel during the Yum Kippur war and other wars that Israel fought? No Israel bit those countries by their own power and from the blessings from God.

    if you remember whatever war has come to Israel the Israeli always wins the war. 3 Arab Nations against one small country and who won?

    • Ray in VT

      I think that Israel won those wars thanks to a great deal of U.S. financial and/or military aid and a great deal of hard-nosed fighting when their backs were against the wall.  I don’t think that the supernatural had anything to do with it, but that’s my view.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

        Israel did not have adequate weapons during those wars. The US never supplied with anything
        They even used all WW2 tanks against Soviet tanks used by those nations.

        The ratio was 20 tanks against 1 Israel tank
        50 arab soldiers against 1 Israeli soldier.

        • Ray in VT

          I haven’t read anything specific regarding the numbers regarding the various Arab-Israeli conflicts, but I’m thinking that you’re a bit off on those numbers.

        • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

          Bullshit.

          See above. 

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      During and immediately after the Yom Kippur War, the United States shipped 22,395 tons of matériel to Israel on American C-141 Starlifter and C-5 Galaxy aircraft and El Al planes The United States also delivered approximately 90,000 tons of matériel to Israel by sea.

      This included 34 to 40 F-4 fighter-bombers, 46 A-4 attack airplanes, 12 C-130 cargo airplanes, 8 CH-53 helicopters, 40 unmanned aerial vehicles, 200 M-60/M-48A3 tanks, 250 armored personnel carriers, 226 utility vehicles, 12 MIM-72 Chaparral surface-to-air missile systems, 3 MIM-23 Hawk surface-to-air missile systems, 36 155 mm artillery pieces, 7 175 mm artillery pieces, large quantities of 105 mm, 155 mm and 175 mm ammunition, state of the art AGM-65 Maverick missile and the BGM-71 TOW, weapons that had only entered production one or more years prior, as well as highly advanced electronic jamming equipment. Many of the combat airplanes were taken directly from United States Air Force units. The total cost of the equipment was approximately US$800 million (US$4.19 billion today).

      Fifteen years later, Former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin admitted publicly:

      “In June 1967, we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove
      that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be
      honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

    Here, in America, if you want to stop terrorism you need to cut the FBI’s budget.  They have been behind more terrorist plots  (which they conveniently thwart in the 11th hour), than “The Toilet” itself.

  • Terry Tree Tree

    With an extremely well-equipped millitary, including advanced jets, tanks, chemical and biological weapons, a mixed population of Sunis, Shia, Sheites, Christians, and many others, , and MANY other factors involved, Syria is a VERY complex country to deal with.
      Iran, Israel, U.S., Russia, China, and MANY other nations have a partial interest in Syria, but not all those interests are clear, or well-defined?
      A simple solution?  Probably not?

  • Whodkey

    There is an established history between Syria and Russia (formerly the Soviet Union).  Russia has a toe-hold in the Middle East through Syria and will not relinquish this.  They learned a lesson with Serbia and will not repeat that here.  Russia also has significant interests with Iran another Syria ally.  Geo-politically this would be a significant misstep for the US to intervene militarily with the knowledge that Russia would react very strongly.   Unfortunately the USA and Europe can not solve all the problems in the world.  The solution must come from Turkey and Saudi Arabia and from within Syria itself, with significant diplomatic support from the West.

  • David In Boston

    Ths problem isn’t just Assad (the blind ophthalmologist)…. It is also the entire baathist system that has been in place since his sadistic father took power. I suspect that Assad himself has only limited control over the shabiha and the military.. Remember that his brothers, sister and mother are all involved and there is a political infrastructure in place that is going to need to be completely changed from within.
    That said, I believe the west has a MORAL duty to protect those civilians.
    Perhaps the Veto system at the Sec Council needs to change. Russia and China shouldn’t be able to act with impunity and tie the hands of a collectively horrified world.
    Every time we say “never again” it inevitably happens again..
    The west has to intervene regardless of the potential consequences of the “day after”. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

      I believe the West has lost its moral compass, so we have no true hold on the concept of “Moral Duty”.  You  mention the veto system at the Security Council and Russia and China’s behavior – - stone walling all out warfare with Assad.  But the biggest veto user there is the United States.  I mean how many UN Resolutions have to be levied against Israel until the light bulb goes off? How many of those resolutions never saw the light of day due to our (U.S.) veto?  But Russia and China are the problem?  

      Every time we say “Never Again”, we only seem to mean it for a select  group of folk.  Israel said never again, but it only meant for them.  Israel is doing to the Palestinians what the Nazis were doing to the European Jewish population in the 1940′s.  

      And just recently, Israel passed a law that allows for migrant workers to be indefinitely detained for up to three years (sound familiar?), then kicked out.  And anyone harboring a migrant will face prosecution as well.  Tell me that doesn’t sound familiar to you.  I’m a goyim, but even I know of the stories where Judaic folk base their trust in others on the prospect of that person hiding them, or ratting them out, if things get bad.  

      “Never Again” has become twisted into “Never Again for a Jew, but fair game for everyone else.”  

      We went to war with Iraq over 5 bullshit U.N. Resolutions.  Israel’s defied over 200 resolutions passed against it in its brief, and violent, history.  And we haven’t even cut back on our aid to them (as our returning vets face homelessness).  Hell, we’ve given them even more money.  And not one sanction against them.

      Complete. And total. Bullshit.

  • Carolyn

    There are plenty of reasons for Assad to be deposed, but I do not think America has to take steps to bomb the crap out of Syria to make that happen (as suggested by a caller).  If we do something like that, I see us opening ourselves up (even further) to be viewed as wanting to wipe out whole populations of Arabs and Muslims.  We do have a political agenda, no matter how it is presented (even to Americans), and it is not likely to work out in a way that satisfies us.      

  • Witterquick

    The political party that preaches unconstrained capitalism would argue for intervention in Syria because it’s good for business and creates jobs and they will shroud their enthusiasm for war in the veil of intervention due to a moral obligation.  There are times when the answers are not so simple.  Let’s be smart on this intervention and not rush to the “air strike” option.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

      If you think we’ve seen atrocities in Syria, so far, just wait until we start talking about “Humanitarian Intervention”, and “No Fly Zones”.  

  • June Hagen

    If we are worried about children being killed at this point do you realize how many will die if this turns into a full blown war? Look at the deaths that were a result of our going into Iraq and these deaths will be blamed on the US.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

      Iraqi children will be suffering for generations with all the Depleted Uranium we dropped on them.

  • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

    Judging by the quality of comments so far on this thread, it’s no wonder that America has lost its legitimacy and power. There’s hardly a person here who can compose an intelligible or grammatically and syntactically correct sentence.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

      Too busy to check my grammar or sentences got no time. thank god I did not use Text Lingo,the more you won’t understand me. If you have time to write like a scholar be my guest. I am not writing my thesis about Syria.

      • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

        You’re not writing anything but complete a-historical bullshit.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

          You think you are smart? LOL!!! that another historical bullshit

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            No, I think you’re stupid.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            I think you are a Child Molester and a bad mouth frustrated old man that forgot to grow up.

          • J__o__h__n

            Calling people child molesters is a new low for this forum. 

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            He does look like a child molester look at this web site.
            http://www.yestermorrow.org/instructors/view/96

          • Ray in VT

            I think that it’s pretty bad, and quite uncalled for.  To say that someone is full of bs is one thing, but to call them pedophiles is quite another.

          • ana

            This site is deteriorating rather badly. 

          • jefe68

            I agree.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            While he called me bullshit so I called him child molester

            just getting even.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            NOT even, and a BAD accusation, if you have no real PROOF!

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Actually, Moda, er ‘Warren’ called me one months ago!  He also tried to say that because I am a Volunteer Fire-Fighter, that I am an arsonist.
               I ask people that try to defend Child-Molesting and Child-Abusing clergy, if they are one, as I see no other reason for someone to try to take attention off these criminals.

          • J__o__h__n

            I don’t always read his nonsense.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            What you think doesn’t matter to anyone here, since you don’t think.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            At least I don’t lool like a Child Molester.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            it matter to law enforcement if you don’t pay Child Support.

          • ana

            You need to let up on this stuff.  It has no place here. 

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            It has a place here especially if a person complaining to be a A NICE PERSON LIKE MISTER RIVERSONG.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            tang-ina mo

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            OK, I know you’re stupid.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            I rather be stupid than a person who looks like a child molester like you.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            at least I am not dead beat Dad

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

          by the way your profile pic? You look like a child molester.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            Nope, just an idiot molester.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            By the way? Shave so when you built schools people will trust you with their kids. Because honestly I won’t trust my 8 year old daughter with you.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            I wouldn’t trust you to father a daughter. 

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            At least I have daughter and got in at Tenacre in Wellesley.

            Probably you already molested your students and kids.

          • Ray in VT

            That’s pretty far over the line, don’t you think?

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            I wouldn’t also trust my daughter to entroll in your pathetic school for child molester.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Child-Molesters have a ‘look’, except for reversed collars?
               You’re taking this pretty far, without more evidence.

    • Ray in VT

      Me kno not bout otherz, but me talk pretty.

      • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

        Well, you’re a Vermonter. We understand language and logic.

        Tourist: “Have you lived here all your life?”

        Old Vermont farmer: “Not yet.”

        • Ray in VT

          I’ve never heard that one before, but I like it.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

            he implicating that the tourist is stupid.

          • Ray in VT

            I’ve seen some out of staters get fooled on some pretty basic stuff.  I’ve met some who thought that Canadian money was “Vermont money”, and some took the bait that our cows have legs that are longer on one side than the other so that they can stand level on the side of a hill.

            Anyways, there are plenty of little sayings and such that call various outsiders a bit simple, etc.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

        I ain’t got know understandin of whut u r sayin. Pleez explane.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

      What you say is true…but there is no requirement for comments to meet any standard. Chill.

      • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

        Except that the literary quality typically matches the substantive quality (or lack thereof).

        This thread exemplifies that all too well.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

          Some people talk smart and have an IQ of 150% but it doesn’t mean they are smart enough to survive the test of life.

          You need high Emotional Intelligence in order to succeed in the real world and your life.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            I hate to let you in on a secret, but IQs aren’t measured in percents.

            And your schoolyard games are hardly an indication of emotional intelligence. 

            It’s typical of someone who has nothing constructive to add to a discussion to make feeble and futile attempts to cut down those who actually do.

          • NPR listener

            I strongly suggest you keep your blow-hole shut before FAX68 ebarrasses you even more.

            You owe $80,000 dollars in child support?

            Wow.

          • NPR listener

            That should be embarrasses.

            The 80 grand took my breath away.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            FAX68 is only making a fool of himself, and you’re right behind on the same playground.

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      Unlike you, I use my full legal name and have nothing to hide.

      You, who cowardly hide behind a ridiculous pseudonym can state lies and make up history without having to be accountable. Let’s see you publish your real name here.

      And I can’t humiliate you, but you do a fine job of that yourself.

      • Ray in VT

        I think that you’re getting way too personal.  Yeah, Robert kicked off this whole deal by saying that you were full of bs, but then you just took the ball and ran with it.  I think that we can disagree with the opinions of others here without breaking out a vast litany of personal insults and attacks.

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      If the only way for you to feel that you’re “something” is to slander someone else with false statements, then I feel nothing but pity and contempt for you.

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      You’re no more an “NPR listener” than is FAX68. You’re both trolls who have nothing constructive to say.

      My life is an open book, as I stand by my words, while the two of you are hiding behind pseudonyms wasting everyone’s time.

    • NPR listener

      This guy has no business at all being in the classroom teaching students.

      Thanks for the post FAX68.  He really needs to be out of the classroom ASAP!

  • Markus

    We are 15 Trillion in debt. There are probably dozens of parts of the globe where despots rule and people are being horrifically mistreated. History, with few exceptions, shows that if we get involved in Syria, we’ll be there for many years, maybe decades.

    I just don’t see the justification for taking on another country’s problems one more time.

  • Zahra

    The U.S. as the dominant democratic, economic, and military power has a moral responsibility to speak out and do something against the brutality of a dictatorial regime which is unleashing terror against unarmed civilian majority.  

    We should remember that even U.S. during its war of Independence needed military help from the French. 

    Recent history tells us that without military intervention Bosnian conflict would not have been solved.  Also, brutal dictators like Saddam and Gaddafi would not have been removed. 

    • Carolyn

      Looking to recent history will expose the aftermaths of intervention, as well.  Abuses still exist, and the identity of the abusers seems to be one of the few things that have fundamentally changed.

  • seels3

    Can we at least divest ourselves of the all too common and insidious assumption that the US military, either as itself or as a tool of government policy, can ever act from altruistic motives?  It never has and never will.  In the simplest terms, violence leads only to more violence.  And there is no way the US can micromanage and play the “good parent” in the Middle East or anywhere. We need to grow up ourselves first.  Let things play out, we can’t control anything with our ignorant and brute force.

    • stephenreal

      tell it to the nazis

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

        We’re still trying to tell it to the Ashkenazis!  ”Never Forget” my ass.

        • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

          You seemed to be a thoughtful man, so I’m surprised you would stoop to such a racist comment. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

            No racism.  I find it odd that Israel commits such atrocities, in light of its peoples past.  

            I also find it odd that a common last name, in Israel, is Ashkenazi.  Finding  the word “-nazi” in it may be the epitome of irony.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            Not odd at all. A people that traumatized, who have determined to “never again” let themselves become victims, could (and did) easily become victimizers.

            But it was primarily the secular Zionist leadership and later the ultra-orthodox Jews who became the extremists. A lot of the original settlers went there to build communes (kibbutzim) and create a socialist utopia, not a nation-state.

            Ashkenazi is not a last name, it’s the entire community of western (mostly German) European Jews – the ones who were victims of the holocaust. So calling them Nazis is way over the line.

          • jefe68

            Are you really serious?
            Because if you are it’s really the height of stupidity.

    • seels3

      It’s not ignorant, I take it back it’s self serving and ignorant of the full consequences of brute force.

      The Nazis were a whole other animal.

  • seels3

    Right.  It is not the business of the US to intervene in the Middle East.  Listen to your guest who is explaining the details… and stop interrupting him to go to a commercial break!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

      Is it just me, or does that routinely happen when someone isn’t toeing the “popular line” in conversation?  As soon as a little logic comes into play, the host turns into an obstructionist, and suddenly remembers to “pay the bills”.

      • seels3

        Exactly.  And who’s paying the bills?…not us anymore.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

          Oh, we’re paying for it, alright.  Just not in the good way.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            I’m not sure what you mean. NPR gets only 6% of its funding from federal, state and local government combined.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

            We’re paying for it in terms of being fed propaganda.  Run through a tumbler of mass confusion, and lies.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            It’s all relative. Compared to the rest of the mainstream media, NPR is downright enlightening. Compared to Democracy Now, WBAI or even BBC, NPR is a great disappointment.

  • Julia

    What is the likelihood of an Arab “Round Table?”

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

      That all depends on who is controlling it.  

  • sam

    it has come to my attention that a Christian village near (named Dumna al Sharquia) Homs that was protected by the Syrian army has fallen under the control of the terrorist (Rabbles) and there were the Muslim ”Allah ou Akber” cries all over the streets of the Christian village.

  • Jim

    the carnage will not stop until Russia supports intervention. Russia will never do it after witnessing new governments in power after the Arab spring refusing to protect the Christian minorities in these countries. When the coptic Christians supported the overthrow of Mubarak, little did they know they are supporting the same people who would want them to leave the country or face religious persecution.

    So… you see it is hard to blame Russia and the Christian population when there is absolutely zero tolerance on religious freedom in many of the Arab Spring countries.

    the Muslim Brotherhood got their wishes through deceit. Now, the coptic Christians will pay for their error.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

      Wait…are you saying there won’t be more carnage WITH intervention?

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      Russia hasn’t been a Christian nation since the Bolshevik Revolution. It has 10-20 million Muslims as well as Buddhists and Jews, and up to half of all Russians are non-religious.

      The Muslim Brotherhood has broad support from 80 years of political and social activism in Egypt.

      You sound like a bigot.

  • jimino

    Maybe we should do the same Reagan did after this Syrian leader’s father killed tens of thousands at Hama in 1982.

  • Dee

    The Neocons & Zionists are out to blow up the Middle East (URL)

    Once again, the Neocons and Zionist apologists are out to destabilize another Arab country.But this time people havetheir number and they will be in the streets.

    Tom–people like yourself should not be feeding into this 
    hype and propaganda …It is obvious the war mongers &
    propagandists are calling your show and adding their war
    mongering views.
     
    They don’t represent the views of war torn and bankrupted  Americans who are fed up with the perpetrators of the war 
    on terror . And especially, with US policies in the Middle
    East –which have always served Israel and the American
    oligarchy–and deprived the Arab populations of their basic
    rights and freedom. 

    And now they want us to believe they care about the Syrian people as they claimed to have care about the Libyan people.
    No Way! 

    We all saw and heard about the atrocities that occurred at 
    the hands of “the free Libyan Army” when the Libyan leader
    and the CIA originally called them “terrorists” . 

    What an old colonial gimmick…This time people like myself have had enough and will voice their outrage in the streets. 

    Dee http://politicalcorrection.org/fpmatters/201008160003

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

      Hell, even CNN (I think) made some mention of Al-Qaeda sympathizers fighting within the ranks of the “Free Libyan Army”.  It was briefly tossed about that some of them served as al-Qaeda (Rough translation: “The Base”, or “The Toilet”) operatives in Iraq, fighting our forces, and fanning the flames of sectarian violence.  

      You’d think that kind of news would be the proverbial “turn-table bump”, skipping the record.  Bringing everything to a standstill (after all, how are we going to spend the better half of a decade demonizing al-Qaeda, just to turn a blind eye on the idea that we’re helping them?). But, no.  That news was just as quickly dropped as it was initially picked up, and “Business as usual” commenced, uninterrupted.

      So, if we were willing to work with terrorists, before…why not now?  The War on Terror is a sham, in my opinion.  It is a War of Terror.  Waged by us.  Waged against us.

      • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

        Don’t forget that the US all but invented al Qaeda to fight off the Soviets in Afghanistan. All US alliances are situational and temporary.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

          Zbignew Brezinski [sp] was behind getting the Mujahadin together to provoke a Soviet invasion, correct?  Which was a classic trap.  

          One which, it seems, America has fallen for as well.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            Yes, and he convinced Jimmy Carter to engage in this “grand chessboard” game.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

      By the way, Dee, that post was spot-on.  Thanks for sharing.

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      For all their depredations, neither the neocons nor the Zionists are interested in blowing up the Middle East, but only in maintaining control over its resources.

  • Peace Out

    Just who are the “rebels” ? Western Intelligence Organisation funded mercenaries ?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

      And that’s the question I’ve been waiting for our media to tackle since this mess started.  It’s a logical question, that leads to a better understanding of the issue(s).

      Which is exactly why we’re never gonna find out.  At least, not through our traditional mainstream media outlets.  

      Damn good question, Peace.

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      In spite of efforts, the CIA has actually had little influence in the Arab Spring.

  • Dee

    Addendum

    THIS IS THE WAR THE NEOCONS & ZIONISTS APOLOGISTS 
    ARE OUT TO SELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ….JUST SAY “NO” 
    Syria, NATO’s Next Humanitarian warhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29234

  • Dee
  • Dee

    Victor, How about Martin Luther King, jr for spot on? Dee

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qf6x9_MLD0

    (We have a moral responsibility to speak out publicly as
    Martin luther King, Jr did.   Oherwise, we won’t have a 
    country worth keeping….)

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Taylor/655363708 Victor Taylor

      :-)  I was just thinking about him.  :-)

  • Pancake Rankin

    Load more Neocon bullshit and child molester accusations?
    Tom needs to fire some moderators.

  • Josette Akresh-Gonzales

    Here’s what we should do about the awful
    situation in Syria: encourage the opposition to surrender. Yes, I said
    it. Wave the white flag. Assad owns the military; this is not Egypt
    where the army will back the protesters. All the powerful men in the
    country are related by blood or debt to the government, and the military
    will do whatever Assad wants to squash the rebellion. This is not the
    right time for a revolution, so protesters should save their children
    and themselves and declare the protest effort a flop and give up. For
    now. Hunker down for six months to a year. And while
    the government thinks it’s won, start organizing. From what I’ve read,
    the opposition is fractured, disorganized, and lacks a clear mission.
    Some groups want to overthrow Assad, others want to work with Assad on
    reforms. Some want an Islamist society, others want American-style
    democracy. According to the BBC, the “Syrian National Council (SNC) is a
    coalition of seven opposition groups aimed at offering a credible
    alternative to President Assad’s government”—but the international
    community would be foolish to arm them. What happens when you give
    weapons to a group of people who lack leadership and a clear mission?
    You encourage senseless killing and suffering. You fail to fix the
    problem. Once these various groups have a credible organization—perhaps
    only possible if exiles and expats help by being the voice of the
    opposition to the outside world while inside Syria the movement remains
    secret for a year or so—then they can start again. We should encourage
    them to use nonviolent methods like those expertly delineated by Gene Sharp in “From Dictatorship to Democracy,” a 93-page guide to toppling autocrats, available for download in 24 languages. http://josette-the-voice-within.blogspot.com/2012/02/this-just-in-ask-me-pacifist.html

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      Much if not most of the Syrian military would defect if they had some cover. Assad has threatened them with retaliation – against them and their families. That’s the only “loyalty” most of them exhibit for the regime.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

        You speak in sweeping generalities…are you an insider in the Syrian military?

  • Tom

    Fortunately or
    unfortunately depending on one’s perspective! present U.S. policy
    makers of the 21st century on the Middle East, are slowly and gradually pulling the U.S. in
    to the heart of a 7th century Middle East religious war, a 1300 year
    old unproductive Religious-Sectarian-Civil war between Sunni and Shia Islam and other sects, a conflict
    that goes back to the days of the Karbala (680 AD)and earlier…
    it is fascinating to see where this is taking us in the U.S. now, especuially as we have not seen a good exit from the Iraq & Afghanistan conflicts?

    • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

      In countries like Iraq, the Sunnis and Shiites lived side by side in harmony until the US undermined the stability of the nation. There was also no al Qaeda presence there until after the US invasion.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

        “Sunnis and Shiites lived side by side in harmony”  

        Not true….one was the dominant majority and exploited the minority. Both sides hatred of each other is because of a different intrepretation of some stupid idea in Islam. More than enough reason to kill each other, don’t ya think? …more proof of my point about the nonsense of religion.

        • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

          If it makes you happy believing in myths that support your bias, who am I to disabuse you of them?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

            Provable facts do not indicate any bias. Just your blindness and unwillingness to believe them. You are lost in your sea of hypocrisy and religion.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

    Once again humanity displays its penchant for violence and unrestrained brutality. A species which is lethal to itself, and every other on the planet, and not worthy of existence.

    • Ray in VT

      That’s pretty bleak, Jason.  Having been a history major, though, it can be tough to have a hopeful outlook for our species given the track record.  I remain hopeful anyways.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

        Ray, I believe in science and facts…not myths, lies, and non-existent gods. You are correct…given our record it is obvious that violence and killing are as much a part of human history as breathing. No other species is as lethal to itself and every other life form on the planet. So to me, it is neither bleak, nor hopeful…just a fact. And, until the human species matures enough (doubtful) to cast off the oppressive and medieval yoke of religion, and banish that nonsense to the clichéd trash bin of history, where it belongs, there is little chance of real progress.

        • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

          It is not “just a fact”. You make believe that the human story began at the start of written history, but 99% of our evolutionary story preceded that.

          Homo Sapiens is no more violent than any other large primate – we used to fight to protect our territory and for mates, but never engaged in genocidal warfare until we invented civilization.

          From an ecological perspective, humanity regressed from a mature, climax species to an immature colonizing one after the agricultural revolution and the beginning of a class system.

          I agree that we need to grow up as a civilization, but we were once grown up and far more “advanced” than we have been for the last 10,000 years.

          Recent neurological and cognitive science has demonstrated that the human brain is wired for empathy and cooperation. Aggression and violence are learned behaviors.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

            OK, so now that you have bounced off all of the walls of logic and “facts”…    What is your point?

            And, is your story something you made up one day while on drugs, or did god whisper it to ya last night at dinner?

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            No sense repeating it, as it’s clearly over your head.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

            Ask god to clarify it for us mortals….you know, tonight at dinner when you 2 get together.

  • Cgkurani

    As an Orthodox Christian I do worry for the safety of minorities and Christians in Syria without Assad or a secular government. Look at Lebanon and Iraq how the Christians and minorities were persecuted against. Even during the Arab spring and Libyan NATO intervention minorities have been attacked. This is what happened in the former Yugoslavia. Serbs and Croats in Bosnia are wanting to form their own states because the. Bosniaks only care about Muslim issues. Look at Kosovo everyday Serbs are being attacked by KFOR and the Albanian Kosovars.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

      Religion is the cause of much of the violence in the world. You folks waste so much time and energy, and perpetrate so much violence, all in the name of a non-existent god.  Perfect examples of human ignorance.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C2STBLZJK4VKQBV27DVQX3I6CU FAX68

        I am Catholic but sometimes I always asked myself Why is God allowing these wars to happen all over the world? I even sometimes have doubts that there is a God.

        God is Great but if he is great why is he allowing children to be killed all over the world.

        Don’t blame Jason_A blame the people who are doing the evil things in our world for religion for god.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

          My friend, if you have doubts as to the existence of a god..then I am hopeful that you are not a lost cause. Having doubts about any religion is healthy. It is when the fanatics are absolutely sure that they are correct and evreryone else is wrong is when the danger (and violence) begins. Does it not strike you as folly, that with every religion espousing peace and love, the “religious” want to kill???

      • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

        Of course anyone who uses the term “you folks” is merely projecting his own demons onto a convenient scapegoat.

        Secular America has waged more aggressive wars than any other nation. Religion can contribute to violence, but not to warfare unless it also has some political power such as the Roman Catholic church did for much of its history.

        Sectarian divisions of all kinds are always exacerbated when a relatively stable society is disrupted by war, invasion or revolution. 

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

          Perhaps you have been a hostage on another planet for your adult life? Being held incommunicado puts you at such a disadvantage when you have no knowledge of events on Earth. A pity.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            In other words, you have nothing intelligent to say.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

            As the old saying goes:  People in glass houses should not throw rocks.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            I live in a wooden cabin.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

            With a head to match…

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            Do you have anything intelligent to say, or are you going to continue making a fool out of yourself as today’s Troll?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

            I do not think anyone died and put you in charge. If you do not like my comments, tooo bad. BFD

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            You answered my question. You’re going to continue making a fool out of yourself as a Troll.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

            Love your string of meaningless letters below. A bit silly, like your comments, and NOBODY will make the effort to decode your blather. Dont bother to reply, I am signing off.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            You mean the ones which spell out: You answered my question. You’re going to continue making a fool out of yourself as a Troll.

        • NPR listener

          Instead of blogging a bunch of junk that nobody wants to read, why don’t you work on paying off that $80,000 dollars you owe in child support.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/PQOCSU3NJ5J6SSQBEM5YBFCPZY Jason__A

            Why pay child support when you can exploit the system? And your children……

            Mr. Riversong is another FINE example of the sanctity of marriage..I am quite sure.

          • http://riversong.wordpress.com/ Robert Riversong

            In other words, you both have nothing constructive to add to this topic, so you’ll continue to make a fools of yourselves.

  • Tom

    As Fawaz Gerges
    indicated, current U.S. policy wonks and think tankers, are overconfident and
    cavalier in advocating escalation in such a religious-civil war in the Middle
    East, such a conflict does not stop at borders set up by British-French in
    colonial times, and it rings memory of Ottoman Empire legacy; An approach of concern
    and trepidation, may be wise, but that requires humility, which is lacking by
    definition… If this conflict in Syria is allowed to get out of control, that
    is, if a negotiated settlement is unachievable and wisdom does not ultimately
    prevail, or if no one side in this conflict wins with extreme brutality and
    fast, this conflict will make Iraq & Afghanistan look like Child’s play.
    Iran’s and Israel’s regional conflicts overlays much of what is happening in
    Syria and they will ultimately be dragged in, as well as others.

  • Tmaher2780

    My concern is if a civil war breaks out which seems very possible is will it drag other influences into a regional conflict.

  • Hidan

    Oops, BBC: Iraq photo to illustrate Houla massacre?

    With the shock of the Houla tragedy ringing across the world, the BBC has released a story with a harrowing picture of rows and rows of children’s bodies awaiting burial… But isn’t that post-Saddam Iraq?
    ­Photographer Marco di Lauro who took the shot grabbed by the BBC says he nearly “fell off his chair” after finding the picture on the network’s website with a caption reading: “Photo from Activist. This image – which cannot be independently verified – is believed to show bodies of children in Houla awaiting funeral.”

    • Hidan

      RT news

      The picture was actually taken on March 27, 2003; it depicts an Iraqi boy jumping over dozens of white body bags containing skeletons found in a desert south of Baghdad. The image, which is published on Marco di Lauro’s website, is part of his story Iraq, the Aftermath of Saddam.
      marcodilauro com /portfolio/war-religion/#id=album-8&num=content-316

  • Travis Schuster

    According to Open Doors International which monitors Christian Persecution in the world, Syria ranks very well when it comes to freedom for their Christian minority. In fact while Saudi Arabia is the 3rd worst persecutor of Christians and Afghanistan with American boots on the ground is the second worst persecutor of Christians, Syria ranks 38th out of 50 countries. The little bit of Christian persecution there is is caused by the Sunni Majority. The Alawite leadership are very friendly to Christian minorities. In addition to the fact that we aren’t sure who did Houla, the secular nature of the Assad Government and its good treatment of minorities should cause us to reconsider whether regime change would be a very good thing for many people in Syria, especially non Muslims.

  • Travis Schuster

    In addition to Russia, China. Iraq, Lebanon and Cuba whom oppose regime change in Syria, Venezuela has just sent 27,000 barrels of diesel to the Assad regime. This folly of thinking that Assad doesn’t have any friends and will fall quickly is just as ignorant as saying he doesn’t have much support internally. Just as we underestimated the massive popular support of the “Latin Left” in countries like Venezuela, Nicaragua, Ecuador,Bolivia and Argentina, to name a few, as well as our underestimating of the insurgency in Iraq, once again the corporate media is leading down the same slippery slope. How is it that so many Americans can tell you that Assad is killing everyone according to what the media feeds us when its really a civil war,and we seem to know whats going on in Syria, yet if you ask 99 percent of Americans what an Alawite is, you get a blank stare. Our so-called free media has us as the most ignorant people on the planet.

  • Travis Schuster

    Back in the 80′s Ronald Reagan accused the leftist Sandinista government of 12 mass graves filled with their victims. However, further investigation found that 9 out of those 12 were victims of his so-called ‘freedom fighter”Contras. In regard to the other three it was inconclusive as far as which side was the perpetrator. Motivated by the Cold War, Reagan misled the public into what was really going on on the ground of the U.S instigated Nicaraguan civil conflict. Likewise, I believe the anti- Shia and anti-Iranian enthusiasm is causing the western media to  jump to conclusions and blame Assad and the alawites for things that are being done by Sunni radical opponents of the regime. Just as Reagan falsely blamed the F.S.L.N Sandinista Government in Nicaragua in the 80′s, Assad could be getting way too much of the blame for Houla, when Sunni radicals are right now in Syria whom have a history of this very thing.

  • Roy Mac

    Sounds like 2 off-shore bomb-lobbers.  Does this conversation really add to my understanding of the butchery in Syria?  Maybe it’s supposed to, but it doesn’t.  Can’t On Point find a couple of commenters who are actually there?

    • Roy Mac

      This guy Fawez is a piece of work!

  • AC

    if the internet existed during WWII, I wonder how these conversations/opinions would parallel and where they would differ…..(we waited then too…..)

  • S.A.

    Do you want your death toll to pile up quickly today or slowly tomorrow? A hasty intervention could cause a regional destabilization that could possibly spill more blood than letting the Syrians play it out.

  • Dee

    Beware of the Sooner than later crowd and those expressing 
    concerns for Christian groups in Syria……

    Tom, 
    Beware of the “sooner than later ” crowd and the Bomb, Bomb Bomb, Iran crown from the Right Wing Think Tanks in Washing-
    ton -who have been all over the American airwaves and in their
    faces (Time Magazine article on Bibi, with ‘victory on his mind”)
    and are out to help the Israelis blow up the Middle East & bring us their endless wars of aggressions & corporate dominance in the Region. See Bill Kelliier article in the New York Times…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/23/opinion/keller-bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb-iran.html?pagewanted=all

    They are the ones I believe who are fueling this conflict in Syria and should be arrested today & placed in chains for their loyalty to a foreign power over the American people. 

    I thank God for the voices of reason today , the UN and esp.
    your distinguish guest Fawaz Gerges from The London School 
    of Economics and the callers who have called for caution and 
    the diplomatic approach. American don’t need to be involved 
    in this conflict or any other conflict overseas. 

     Likewise, I feel it necessary to voice my disgusted with the typical Right Wing voice of Andrew Tabler from the Near East Policy group who proposes military arming the Free Syrian Army. 

    Tabler’s policy seems so reckless and more of the same model we saw in Libya –where there is already terrible distrust and bloodshed at the hands of foreign infiltrates. 

    Yet, he tries to sugar coat his call with the suggestion of this being democracy at work and with his concern for the Christian population in Syria today…

    The Syrian people have a long history of living together for a
    long time with mixed ethnic groups– and I am sure they don’t 
    need outside help –especially from a Zionist enabler..Dee

  • Hidan

    Andrew Tabler-

    Affiliations

    AIPAC – featured speaker at the AIPAC Annual Policy Conference (21 Mar 2010)Fikra Forum, ContributorSyria Today – former editor-in-chief
    yrian nongovernmental organizations (2003-2004) under the patronage of Syrian first lady Asma al-Asad
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Andrew_J._Tabler

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy

    If anyone is not aware the Washington Institute for Near East Policy is another Pro-Israeli think Tank and part of the Pro-Israeli lobby  and of course he’s the guest pushing for war(amazing I know).

    Like Today’s show and Talk of the Nation people from the WINEP are brought on as “sic” objective experts when clearly there not. 

    Fawaz Gerges was far more informative than anything Tabler had to say.

    • Hidan

       MJ Rosenberg comments on WINEP:[9]

      I was working at AIPAC and it was Steve Rosen who cleverly came up
      with the idea for an AIPAC controlled think-tank that would put forth
      the AIPAC line but in a way that would disguise its connections.

      There was no question that WINEP was to be AIPAC’s cutout. It was funded
      by AIPAC donors, staffed by AIPAC employees, and located one door away,
      down the hall, from AIPAC Headquarters (no more. It has its own digs).
      It would also hire all kinds of people not identified with Israel as a
      cover and would encourage them to write whatever they liked on matters
      not related to Israel. “Say what you want on Morocco, kid.” But on
      Israel, never deviate more than a degree or two.

      So why does it matter?

      It matters because the media has totally fallen for this sleight of hand
      and WINEP spokespersons appear (especially on PBS) as if WINEP was not
      part of the Israel lobby.

    • Dee

      Hidan , Thanks for your information on Rosenberg and 
      the AIPAC Conference March 21st…It’s amazing how the Zionist entity continues to undermines the goodwill and 
      deceny of the American peoples’ to promote its tribe il-
      legally in the Palestinian Territories…….

      Of course, many people have their number now and feel theBritish were spot on when they accused the American
      officials of giving rise to a bunch of “gangsters” in the Zionist state in 1947…….

      (Avi Schlaim, the Israeli historian noted this from the public records in London in his piece -Sharon is the real obstacle to peace, not Arafat..) Dee 

  • Stephen

    It was asked what would happen if the world moves in to Syria.  What would happen is that the killing would continue.  The same people who are being killed now, PLUS the military who intervene. I certainly mourn the deaths of the Syrians, but adding more bodies to the pile, wherever they’re from, makes little sense in the bigger picture

  • Hidan

     The Fikra ForumCritical AssessmentJeffrey Blankfort reports:    [The NED] is currently involved in Syria where the Damascus Center for Human Rights Studies, headed by Radwan Ziadeh, has served as a front for its activities. Ziadeh is also the director of the Syrian Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Washington DC, and has served as a spokesperson for the Syrian National Council, an organization of Syrian living abroad who have been calling for Western military intervention in Syria, a move that has been so far opposed by the opponents of the regime within the country. This has endeared him both to the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies and the Foreign Policy Intiative, two pro-Israel neocon think tanks that are the successors to the Project for the New American Century. A less well-known connection to Ziadeh is to the Fikra Forum (Fikra meaning “idea” in Arabic), which describes itself as “an online community that aims to generate ideas to support Arab democrats in their struggle against authoritarians and extremists, and to provide a platform for those in the region seeking to shape the future of their countries, and US-based decision makers and opinion leaders who are trying to understand and support those efforts.” What the site doesn’t say is that the Fikra Forum is a project of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), arguably the most influential Capitol Hill think tank on Middle East issues. It was founded by AIPAC in 1985, and it has served as a vehicle to push Israel’s agenda ever since – a fact that the mainstream media never mentions. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Fikra_Forum

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  • Elapab

    FAX68 said: I am Catholic but sometimes I always asked myself Why is God allowing these wars to happen all over the world? I even sometimes have doubts that there is a God.
    God is Great but if he is great why is he allowing children to be killed all over the world.
    Don’t blame Jason_A blame the people who are doing the evil things in our world for religion for god.
    __________________________________________________
    With respect to FAX68, I agreed the onion with him/her.  War is done by devil inspiration. For the civil war in Syria definitely  there is some devil conspiracy. We hate that devil.
    When I was in Navy, I was toughs that ” it is the psychological tendency of a human being to dominate others, this domination is the cause of War”.  My question to the forum is that who wants this dominate in Sirya at present?
    http://ouropenmind.com

    • J__o__h__n

      Wars are conducted by men not nonexistent gods (although they are often conducted in their name). 

  • Travis Schuster

    Well once again , the real problem is that our media has us completely ignorant of whats the cultural make up of Syria. I think we are only getting one side of the conflict and this is all playing into the hands of the NeoCon’s and Internationalists whom want regime change.

    • Dee

      The real problem with the media I feel is that it dismiss-
      es other leader’s claims over its own…and buys into the 
      latest government spin…Why have freedom of the press if it doesn’t entail those checks and balances of the government claims to begin with. Thus, the media is not doing its job today… Dee

  • Combs

    What is the solution to “Oops, we can’t reach SoundCloud”?
    I’ve uninstalled and reinstalled Google Chrome, updated to the latest Flash Player and Java versions and still no luck.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Tirsell/1599880417 Dave Tirsell

    Perhaps shame might have an effect on Syrian decisions. Why not find a small firm in Tunisia or elsewhere in the region to sew a thousand shrouds a month and find a way to deliver them to the doorsteps of the government? It would use up some embargoed funds, boost the economy and provide something they need as they shell their own residents

  • marygrav

    Notice that the Native can never be listened to.  Everything that comes out of Syria is hearsay and this is what Gerges is trying to explain.  But he is outnumbered by Western know-it-all.  What we have here is the propaganda that the West always wants to spread about the so-called ignorance of the Native and the Native Speaker.

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