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Lizz Winstead

Comedian Lizz Winstead, co-creator of “The Daily Show” is with us, on the truth in humor.

Lizz Winstead (credit:  Mindy Tucker)

Lizz Winstead (credit: Mindy Tucker)

Comedian Lizz Winstead grew up in Minnesota asking awkward questions about life and why things are the way things are.  When the answers came back laughable and infuriating, she turned to humor.  Humor, she says, to speak truth to power. 

In her own stand-up comedy and political satire, and with some big names and megaphones.  She was co-creator of The Daily Show.  Worked early on with Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.  Brought Rachel Maddow to the national stage. 

This hour, On Point:  Comedian Lizz Winstead on humor, political satire, and speaking truth to power – with a kick.

-Tom Ashbrook

Guests

Lizz Winstead, writer, political satirist, and stand-up comedian. She is the co-creator and former head writer for Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show.” She was also a founding member of Air America Radio, where she co-hosted the show “Unfiltered” with Chuck D and Rachel Maddow. Her new book is Lizz Free or Die: Essays.

From Tom’s Reading List

Mother Jones “There will be information, but the hosts will feel free to be witty, and there will be a few 90-second comedy pieces each hour. So you come for the news and stay to hear the satirical response to it.”

The Guardian “Our meeting was in the rectory study. Wood paneling, leather chairs, even more Jesus pictures than we had, as I recall. It looked like one of those libraries that rich old vampires had on Dark Shadows.”

New York Post “The youngest of five kids in a Catholic family, she was inspired by George Carlin’s early routines about the church. She began performing stand-up, eventually hosting shows by, and befriending, the likes of Jay Leno and Roseanne.”

Excerpt

Excerpted from LIZZ FREE OR DIE by Lizz Winstead by arrangement with Riverhead Books, a member of Penguin Group (USA), Inc., Copyright © 2012 by Lizz Winstead.

This Is Not A Game

I am the youngest of five children, four girls and a boy, and was raised in a Catholic family in Minnesota. The sister who’s the closest in age to me is six years older, and the eldest is thirteen years older.

And that is just my immediate family. If I count just my mom’s side of our extended family, I am the twenty-sixth of twenty-seven grandkids. The age gap was even greater with my cousins: The older ones were having babies before I was born. Some of my cousins at¬tended my parents’ wedding. There were always babies around—sometimes there were so many, it seemed they came in bulk, like our family was the Costco of procreation.

As far back as I can remember, it seemed like every weekend my mom pulled the copper dessert mold off the kitchen wall, mixed up some lime Jell-O, shredded some carrots and threw in some pret¬zels, let it set in the refrigerator, then dragged this inedible blob and my sisters and me to another celebration of some relative’s new baby.

The parties were made up of about fifteen women and were a combination of my sisters, aunts, grandma, and cousins. They sat in a big circle on flimsy folding chairs, most of them trying to bal¬ance a baby or toddler of their own on their laps while simulta-neously gobbling up plates full of “the egg dish,” a bready/eggy casserole lathered in cream of mushroom soup. This was the food of choice at every family gathering that started before noon. Cream of mushroom soup, however, was the ingredient of choice for every recipe ever created in the 1960s and ’70s, no matter what time the gathering or what the main dish was. I like to think of it as America’s binder. And it’s a fitting metaphor for baby shower conversations: thick and bland.

I have never been into babies—I didn’t and still don’t have the mommy gene—yet these women talked of nothing else.

My mother insisted I sit with my cousins and aunts and “visited.” I knew that if I defied her I would be denied cake later—there was always cake—so I held up my end of the bargain, traveled from woman to woman, and stood with an awkward anonymity and lis¬tened as they talked endlessly to one another about all things infant. Having them, feeding them, changing them. And I really didn’t care how they were made or where they came from. Why would I? I was eight. That would be like my wanting to know where vegetables came from. (By the way, until I was nineteen, I thought the answer to that one was “a can.”)

And I never bought that stork story. If the stork brought them, surely I would have seen at least one flying around with a baby in its bill at some point in my life. The fact that grown-ups made up that lame story told me that however making babies really happened, it must be too gruesome for a child to be exposed to. Like those crea¬ture feature movies on channel 9, that played every Saturday at mid¬night. I just assumed babies hatched inside huge floral dresses, since every woman in my family seemed to wear one when they were pregnant. I imagined they grew in a way that was so gory and awful that it had to be hidden in a lump under a big Midwestern muumuu. I guess my conclusion came because after me, my mom was done having kids. When I was very small she had a “histo rectum tummy,” as I thought it was called, so I never saw her pregnant except in pic¬tures, wearing one of these floral dresses.

To be fair, these ladies occasionally changed the subject to hus¬bands, but that’s when they leaned in close to one another and lowered their voices, so I could only catch bits of those conversa¬tions. From what I gathered, husbands were always late, very forget¬ful about where they were, and slept on the couch a lot.

I gathered husbands got in trouble all the time.

I was glad I didn’t have one.

When the secret husband talk started, the women didn’t want me around anyway. “Why don’t you go play outside, Lizzy?” one would say as she patted me on the head. It was the out I was waiting for. I smiled obediently and raced to freedom, staking out a piece of grass to perfect my cartwheels for hours on end, until my mom angrily came and found me. “I told you to visit.”

“I tried, but they started whispering about Uncle Bud sleeping in the den again, and I—”

That was when Mom cut me off. She realized where the Uncle Bud conversation probably went, and if I kept talking I might ask for details about Uncle Bud, and that’s not something anybody wanted. So she created a necessary diversion, plopped me onto an uncom¬fortable dining room chair behind this hootenanny of hormones, and rewarded me with a piece of that delicious white sheet cake, the only thing that made these parties bearable for me. I think she fig¬ured if she gave me the biggest pink frosting rose, I would forget anything I had heard about Uncle Bud and his boozy love affair. Or was it a love affair with booze? I can’t quite remember. But that was okay—I had cake!

See how it worked? I already forgot.

 
  • Roy Mac

    Really want to hear her take on the Time magazine cover!

  • at

    I really love that show. Though somehow I sense a quality in it’s humor, that is not unlike that felt in the anti-nazi cabarets in Berlin, just before the brown shirts and jack-boots smashed the furniture.
    On the other hand, every time that Stuart had an arch-rival with any real power that he had skewered in their absence, he certainly turned into Condaliza’s bitch, and he had Rumsfeld right there, the evil lord of shock and awe, who promised the oil revenues would pay for the war, and it was kid gloves all the way. What a farce of a voice that speaks truth to power.  It’s just another case of the clever getting rich on a segment of the masses.  Nothing more

    • Hidan

      I love watching the Daily Show and the Colbert Report,his interview with Conni was quite sad and look like one he constantly makes fun of(the up and up was that he had to agree to terms to get her on) Sadly he did the same with huckabee with some of his extreme views against gays.

      Colbert still gives it.

      • TFRX

        Stewart has a bit too much of that “needs to be in the middle” to him sometimes.

        As I’ve said before, when the right wing trods on New York City, Stewart and his writers’ best selves comes out. There are a few other subjects they don’t pull punches on, but he should accept the fact that making enemies (the proper enemies) doesn’t lessen him.

        Others have opined that Stewart’s background in standup, v. Colbert’s background in improv, show, and as an SCTV geek I’m sorta inclined to agree.

    • Brett

      Well, it is a comedy show. If he “skewered” people in their presence too much without showing respect for them as guests, no one of controversy, so to speak, would ever wish to appear on his show. However, I do agree that he makes nice a little too much at times in the presence of his guests. Colbert does a better job of not holding back, but he has the advantage of hiding behind his satyrical persona and can say certain things in character for which he personally doesn’t have to take ownership. 

  • Hidan

    Does she work at all with the Colbert Report? What’s her views on ken and peele(the replacement of The chappelle show)?

  • Gemli

    It says something about our society that comedians are the only ones treating politics seriously.  They make a living pointing out the obvious inconsistencies, ironies, and absurdities that (mostly) Republicans are asking the populace to buy.  It should go without saying that the voters are the ones who should be listening critically to what these candidates are saying and detecting the illogic and the pandering for themselves.  Instead, comedians have to do if for them.  Low-information voters are welcome to march over the cliff like a gaggle of clueless lemmings, but unfortunately they’re likely to take the rest of the country with them.  I hope this fate can be staved off by comedy, because frankly it’s not funny.

    • Brett

      Notice how there aren’t really any contenders in comedy from the Republican side of the spectrum? I think it is an interesting phenomenon. It tells us something about the new conservative mindset. I’m not talking about comedians/satirists like Greg Getfeld, who’s neither funny, witty nor has any really insightful points to make in his so-called humor…  

      • Brett

        Sorry, I meant “Greg Gutfeld.”

    • Thinkin15

      Great satire only works if people understand the subject and understand the irony. You can tell when people don’t get the joke that they aren’t up on the topic. Satire has to be smart.

  • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

    She’s responsible for making Rachel Maddow a name?  Oy vey, she has much atonement to do.

    • Thinkin15

       Rachel Maddow has the grudging respect of people on the right. Roger Ailes for one, liked her book. She does the research, always tries to get the facts right, and is willing to apologize and correct if she gets the facts wrong.

  • Charles A. Bowsher

    Dear Liz,
    Please tell Jon Stewart that he owes me an apology for making fun of the fact that I have more than a dozen bowling balls in my front yard.  How do I get through to him the level of hurt I have suffered for low these many years?

  • Terry Tree Tree

    I wasn’t familiar with her work, or her history.
        I am IMPRESSED with her!

  • MadMarkTheCodeWarrior

    Liz,

    It is appalling that your humorous caricatures represents a rare commodity in America today. Your news towers in accuracy and insight over that of our national network evening news organizations.

    I wonder how those tools on Fox news live with themselves… Oh, duh… Since they have no shame, laughing all the way to the bank.

  • Rex

    I like what an NPR pledge drive described as listen to NPR so you will know what they are talking about on the Daily Show.

  • john

     Lizz deserves her own temple… sans hookers. She’s an inspiration. Thank you! You provide an invaluable service to our cultural evolution and demonstrate the power and importance of our senses of humor.

  • Scott B, NY

    Comedy speaks truth to power better than any other way.  It’s proven that people remember information better when presented in a humorous way.    I know that when I went to college that much of the information from courses that were all rote and overhead projectors is in my brain somewhere..maybe… But the professors that had me laughing, were also the ones that made me think the most and to look more critically at things, and I remember so much more from those classes.

  • Michiganjf

    Lizz,

        The Daily Show follows only SNL and Second City in the amount of talent that has spun off from the show, sho thanks for that legacy as well!!!

     What a contribution you’ve made!!

    • Michiganjf

      Ooops! Sorry for the multiple posts!!

      My comment failed to show up several times!

  • Michiganjf

    Lizz,

      The Daily Show follows only SNL and Second City in the amount of talent that has spun off from the show, so thanks for that as well!!

    What a contribution you’ve made!!

  • Michiganjf

    Lizz,

      The Daily Show follows only SNL and Second City in the amount of talent that has spun off from the show, so thanks for that as well!!

    What a contribution you’ve made!!

  • Terry Tree Tree

    Two hours of comedy, back to back?  On Point ROCKS!
        BTW, Liz’s picture shows artistry with makeup!  She looks naturally pretty.

  • Steve_T

    Any time you can open a person to think and laugh at the reality, and stupidity of everyday life, you’ll have a good show.
    It make some of us realize, no we’re not crazy, they are!

  • Greyman

    What left/progressive hypocrisies does Lizz Winstead tackle head-on?

    • Reyna

      Answer: None.

      It is her religion.

  • Dnc226

    To the caller that says this satirist movement is new. What about mark twain and Ben franklyn just to name a few?

    • readsome

      or even Will Rogers….

  • Thinkin15

    I love that Lizz’s satire and comedy gets shown on the regular news each week. The networks can then make a point or say something that they wouldn’t be allowed to. Thanks! Love your work.

  • MadMarkTheCodeWarrior

    What have things come to? We now need you to fact check the fact checkers!

    How would you brand your perspective? Hyper-reality? More real than reality TV! More inspiring than real reality.

    You are out there inspiring and energizing people to learn and internalize meta-issues and this promotes public discourse! We need more of this in public.

  • BHA in Vermont

    If the politicians weren’t twisting the truth (if there IS any truth) in their statements, they wouldn’t be parodied on comedy shows.   I don’t see these shows as likely to dissuade any honest person for running for office.

  • http://www.facebook.com/drpmeade Paul S Meade

    Bravo Lizz Winstead! As a leftist libertarian (-6.62, -6.15) I couldn’t agree more with your point of view. You also know how to pick your compatriots-and thanks for Rachel Maddow.

    The right really needs skewering on a regular basis and you do an excellent job.

    • Sanjacinto

      I’d like to see the left skewered more. They deserve it.

  • divine582

    Lizz is correct. This type of satire definitely spurs discussion and provkes a thoughtful response to the kernals of truth lurking under the comedy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Karl/1259859573 Joe Karl

    Thank “God” for comedy. The world is being consumed by our race through simple greed. We might as well go down laughing…  We need a third party simply called “Common Sense”. Keep up the great work. Great interview.-  Jk

    • Pete Hamil

      The world is ending! Greed is eating our planet!

      Joe Karl, you and common sense will never intersect.

  • Jacob AG

    Does Liz accept that she, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and even Rachel Maddow are hypocritical when it comes to income inequality?  Jon Stewart at least admits that he is, whenever someone pokes fun of his high income and net worth on his show…

    • bellavida

      Colbert admits it all the time.  Just because they make a high income does not make them hypocrites.  

    • Zero

      What’s hypocritical about think one should pay higher taxes?  They don’t think nobody should be rich; they think the rich should pay more taxes. 

  • Bruce

    Thanks OnPoint for elevating the conversation in the second segment with today’s guest.  I’ve strived from time to time on this forum to use irony to convey a viewpoint, and know that it has often fallen short…closer to sarcasm than to satire.

    The pathetic clown interviewed in the first hour definitely increased my appetite for some real comic relief from a consummate pro like Lizz.

    • Kevin

      Bruce, let me guess: anybody with whom you disagree is a “pathetic clown.” But those with the same political ideology and opinions are probably worth hearing, right?

      • Hearndon

        You mean like you and Lizz Winstead?

        • jefe68

          Comprehension issues methinks.

  • bruce

    how much influence will shows like Letterman , Leno, Stewart, etc……have on the November presidential election.   Bruce from Miami Beach (formerly Minneapolis)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZKG7NEG53UKVK7OTIT7Y4VMBOM Jay D

    what about Craig Kilborn? why did he start the show before Jon Stewart?

  • lucifersheretic

    Merli Harper political satirists are carrying on the role which goes back before the time of Shakespeare celebrating ‘The Fool’ in King Lear

  • Jimmy

    Thanks Liz for your great and historic contribution to political satire. No show has ever done it better than The Daily Show and Colbert and it is doubtful if anyone ever will.

  • MadMarkTheCodeWarrior

    Hi Liz,
    Sadly, it looks like you’re in a market with growing demand. I am so ready for a career change! Have your bot call my bot. :^)

  • Pattiroberts22

    The Daily Show really “saved” me after I struggled with kidney failure, hours of dialysis before a kidney transplant did. At the end of the day, I got to laugh & feel that some talented people saw many things the way I did. The absurdity of our culture, media and politics presented in a hysterical way. THANK YOU,   John Stewart, Liz & Madeline Smithberg. I’m still addicted…

    • Thom

      The Daily Show “saved” you after you struggled with kidney failure?

      Did your doctors have any part to play in that?

      • bellavida

        Have you not a clue?  

  • Adelross

    We try to catch the Daily Show and Colbert regularly on day-after early evening re-broadcasts. Watching it with my 16 year daughters is a great starting point for many conversations about politics government and social issues. As opposed to “the Onion” news which does make you laugh (and cringe ), we often feel hopeful after the laughs fade.

  • Katharine Daly

    I believe you add to the atmosphere of divisiveness in the country by artificially “balancing” every conservative with a quick fix of progressive ideology.  You wouldn’t lose listeners  if you managed to wait 24 hours before answering one rigid perspective with another.  Don’t believe any staff member who argues that it makes for drama.

    • jefe68

      Gee, and what you’re doing is not divisive.
      Here’s a little information for you, we live in a nation that allows people to have voices other than the one you have.
      Lizz Winstead is one of those voices. So I guess it’s time to go back into your conservative bubble.

      • Pointpanic

        AMEN ,jefe. Spot on.

  • Gannon

    Lizz Winstead is not funny. Her standup is like a lecture from your communist, post-modernist college professor. Her Comedy Central standup show had to add appaulse because no one was laughing.

  • Lin

    Lizz was funny, bright, articulate, and an all-around enjoyable guest.

    • Pointpanic

      Yes, I agree,Lin. I wish I had her intelligence ,wit, and personality

  • Ringting101

    Lizz sucks. Worst neighbor ever @ 718 Broadway. I love her shows but she is a card carrying cunt.

    • gilscotheron

       you sound like a prick

    • GMG

      Charming.

    • Pointpanic

      So please tell us how you really feel.

  • gilscotheron

    http://www.thedeal.com/content/regulatory/fed-allows-china-wealth-fund-to-buy-us-bank.php
    The Chinese held US Treasuries will be utilized as BASE
    CAPITAL upon which to create TRILLIONS of digital dollars via fractional
    reserve.
    While these Treasuries were held outside of the U.S. Banking System dollars could not be created via fractional reserve; -but, now these Treasuries
    WILL be used as a basis to generate digital dollars out of thin air.
    IF China holds $1.2 Trillion of U.S. Treasuries….
    …THEN $1.2 Trillion in U.S. Treasuries = the possible creation of
    $10.8 Trillion new digital FRN via fractional reserve banking.

  • Dave Algonquin

    Her flogging those Daily Show credentials is getting a little worn. She was important in the Daily Show like Pete Best was important in the Beatles.

  • Warren

    Anyone responsible for Ms.Maddow should be hauled to the Hague and charged with crimes against humanity.Before her show on Hate Speech T.V.,she worked for Air America.Air America went bankrupt.The head of Air America was embezzling funds from a Boys Club in the Bronx.Something like that

    • baystater

      Maddow is the most polite host on tv.  Disagreeing with her politics doesn’t make it hate speech.  Hate speech is defined by Rush and Beck.  Those guys should be imprisoned for treason.

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