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The GOP Field After Iowa

Mitt Romney wins a squeaker in Iowa. Rick Santorum and Ron Paul right behind. The meaning of Iowa and the GOP’s road ahead.

In a Dec. 31, 2011 file photo Republican presidential candidate, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, left, speaks during a campaign appearance in Knoxville, Iowa. In a Jan. 2, 2012 file photo Republican presidential candidate former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney speaks during a campaign stop in Clive, Iowa. Santorum and Romney took near opposite paths to twin victories in Iowa's presidential caucuses. (AP)

In a Dec. 31, 2011 file photo Republican presidential candidate, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, left, speaks during a campaign appearance in Knoxville, Iowa. In a Jan. 2, 2012 file photo Republican presidential candidate former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney speaks during a campaign stop in Clive, Iowa. Santorum and Romney took near opposite paths to twin victories in Iowa's presidential caucuses. (AP)

An Iowa squeaker! Romney, Santorum, Ron Paul – neck and neck… and neck. An eight vote win. It’s never been seen before. Last night Iowans did their quadrennial caucus duties, and painted quite a picture of the GOP.

A skin-of-the-teeth winner who’s miles from winner-take-all. A come-from-last-place virtual tie challenger in Rick Santorum, touting God on his side. Iconoclast hero Ron Paul right in the front rank. Newt Gingrich shouting “liar” from fourth place. Wow.

This hour, On Point: Iowa speaks and it’s not over. We look at the vote and the GOP road ahead.

-Tom Ashbrook

Guests

Kathie Obradovich, political columnist for the Des Moines Register.

Kim Alfano, Republican media consultant. President and CEO of Alfano Communications.

Neil King, Jr., political reporter for the Wall Street Journal.

From Tom’s Reading List

Des Moines Register “The invisible man of the 2012 Republican presidential campaign, Ron Paul, is now facing the same scrutiny and attacks that have humbled or derailed many of his rivals’ campaigns.”

Wall Street Journal “For the past four years, Ohio’s Hamilton County has had a front seat on America’s political roller coaster.”

USA Today “For more than three decades, the opening contest here in Iowa has narrowed the Republican field and sharpened a race that was then decided by a handful of early contests, well before most states had voted. This time, though, a revised primary calendar and changed party rules have set the stage for what could be a longer and less predictable slog.”

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  • Yar

    http://www.nationofchange.org/2012-iowa-caucuses-numbers-1325609440
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    percentage of American voters who will be voting Tuesday for the
    winner of the Iowa Caucuses, if recent opinion polls are accurate.

    The numbers in the link are missing is the amount spent on ads, polling and other vote buying in Iowa.  Those are the numbers that tell the real story, this is only about advertising revenue, Iowa wants to be first so, in a state that doesn’t matter politically can get in on some of the political gravy train.  Iowa does feed a lot of people after all.

    • Terry Tree Tree

      Good Point!

    • BHA in Vermont

      Sounds reasonable. If Iowa was 5 months out, pretty much no campaign money would be spent there.

      If we can’t get ALL caucuses/primaries held on the same day (so the candidates can’t change their message to suit the local voter) then lets get it changed so they are held SMALLEST state to LARGEST state so the campaign gravy train is spread out. And make the results NULL and VOID for ANY state that jumps the line.

  • JUST CORY PLEASE!

    I am a student of history primarily, and consequently a student of politics.  I have been for all my life, as it is my fascination and passion.  None of this passion or study gives me any insight as to what is happening with the candidates for the Republican nomination for the presidency.

    The one thing that is inescapable is the odor of rot and decay in our political process.  100,000 Iowans charting the course for 300 million Americans, Romney raining negative ads and cash on his opponents, Gingrich preparing to unleash hell on Romney…

    It is all just weird.  The one thing that I am certain of is I haven’t heard anything approaching the truth about our fututre from any candidate or current office holder.  I don’t expect that I will.

  • Jasoturner

    When Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney are the standard bearers for your party, your party has problems.  Santorum the oblivious culture warrior is clearly unfit for higher office.  Romney is simply too opaque to trust.

    It will be interesting to see if the republican consultant on the panel tries to construe Santorum as a legitimate candidate.  If so, the party is pretty far gone.

  • Anonymous

    I think the words of Tom Cochrane’s song sum up the Republican field…
     
    Lunatic Fringe
    I know you’re out there
    You’re in hiding
    And you hold your meetings
    I can hear you comin’
    I know what you’re after
    We’re wise to you this time
    We won’t let you kill the laughter
     
    Lunatic Fringe
    In the twilight’s last gleaming
    This is open season
    But you won’t get too far
    Cause you gotta blame someone
    For your own confusion
    We’re on guard this time
    Against your final solution

    - Today’s Republican party is even starting to scare some Republicans.

    • BJ

      Lunatic Fringe or air-heads on a power trip appealing to the factually challenged.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paolo-Caruso/1778940602 Paolo Caruso

    It amazes me that Americans can be so captivated by the ephemeral political semiotics that unfortunately dominate the media for now. I turn it off after a minute or two.   One can find more integrity listening to sports experts discussing draft picks.

    Its all a choreographed horse race replete with drama and scandal, with all bets hedged by the plutocrats.  As if Herb Cain’s and Newt’s transgressions would not surface on cue, like time release bubbles in pharmaceuticals.  

    A refreshing change was Onpoint’s Monday discussion of corporate campaign funding and lobbies, although the power of the MEDIA was totally ignored.  Americans needs to see much more of such discussions and a real change to take place in the “democratic” charade. 

    Paolo, Rome

  • Anonymous

    To sum it all up in 7 words: The Hogwart’s Express has left the station!

  • JustSayin

    It’s illegal to sell political positions, but not to buy one. Millionaires fighting with other millionaires, and the result is the typical inane dreck sprayed upon the electorate.

  • Anonymous

    75% of Iowa Republicans reject Romney.  This matches his polling from day one of this race.  He will probably get the nomination as he is the least flawed (other than Huntsman who has no chance) but no one supports him enthusiastically.  The Republicans will only be motivated to vote by their hatred of Obama. 

  • Newton Whale

    Romney “Wins” Iowa By A Mere Eight Votes‏

    It was easy to imagine Mitt Romney winning the Iowa caucuses. It was harder to imagine Romney winning Iowa and looking weaker at the same time.And yet, that seems to be a fairly reasonable assessment of the race for the Republican presidential nomination this morning. Consider this brief timeline of events:2007: Romney runs aggressively in Iowa, invests millions, and expects to win.2008: Romney ends up with 25.2% of the vote in a six-candidate field.2009: Romney launches a four-year presidential campaign.2011: Romney runs aggressively in Iowa, invests millions, and expects to win.2012: Romney ends up with 24.5% of the vote in a six-candidate field.After five years of near-constant campaigning, Romney managed to get fewer votes in Iowa last night than he did in his first campaign. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/santorum_comes_8_votes_short_d034511.php 

  • JP

    All these Republicans have invested so much in their mindless, unwarranted hatred of Obama that they simply can no longer admit that President Obama utterly outclasses every buffoon on the Republican ticket in every respect.

    … I have faith that the majority of America won’t be as brain-dead when it comes to the actual presidential election later this year, and President Obama will glide easily into a second term.

    • Gregg

      Obama has been a complete disaster for America. It has nothing to do with hatred.

      • Chris F.

        Even if this were the case, it looks like the Republicans are on their way to nominating an unelectable general election candidate.

        • Gregg

          We’ll see. We heard the claims in 2010 that electing Rand Paul and Marco Rubio in the primaries wold surely give the seats to Democrats. Conventional wisdom was wrong. John McCain was the squishy middle candidate the press and the establishment loved. Didn’t work out. I don’t think “electable” is so easily defined, especially at this early stage.  

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Enough MONEY, and the resultant baseless attack ads can get any AWOL, business failure, failed father, HYPOCRITE ‘elected’!

      • TFRX

        We were in a complete disaster already, thanks to Shrub. Getcher history straight.

      • BHA in Vermont

        I counter that it is not Obama who is the disaster but the “stop anything Obama wants done” Republicans in the House.
        The costly wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are at the feet of GWB.
        The tax cuts at the same time as starting 2 wars are at the feet of GWB.

        Perhaps you are one of the “poor people should not have access to health care” types.

        • TFRX

          But you’re forgetting the WATB GOP in the new 60-is-the-new-61 Senate.

          Obama said he’s for not stopping on railroad tracks in front of a freight train. Wanna bet on what the GOP calls to do next?

        • Still Here

          I counter that Obama has shown no leadership and that Democrats in Congress signed off on everything Bush proposed and vice versa.

          Maybe you’re one of those “what’s mine is mine and what’s yours is mine” types.

          • BHA in Vermont

            No, that would be the 1% :)

          • TFRX

            Dems in Congress signed off on what? Bush signed off on everything Dems in Congress did when?

            When’s the last time you got called a traitor for your politics?

            When’s the last time you were barred from a “town hall” for wearing the wrong t-shirt or having the wrong bumper sticker on your car?

            When’s the last time the mainstream press fluffed and narrativized a loser president with 30 percent approval as “popular”, who wasn’t George W. Bush?

            You got a funny recollection of history. I have no remembrance of the last decade as the “era of good feelings”.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, I agree he is a moderate centrist instead of being a real progressive. However you liked Gingrich. Enough said. 

      • Modavations

        I consider Pres.Obama to be  worst President ever.Even Carter(3rd worst Pres),is giving Obama pointers.Gregg,I believe,likes Gingrich’s politics.I can’t vote for him due to my Conscience Clause,but I too love his politics.He is afterall,the reason Clintons presidency was a success.

    • Consultant

      Disaster is putting it mildly  – this clueless community organizing activist  – is good at one thing – reading a teleprompter.  When speaking ad lib – he stumbles, bumbles and doesn’t even know how many states there are.  Any of the Republican candidates will be a refreshing change – when elected – and in whom we can BELIEVE!

      • Brett

        That’s so cute…we’ve got our own lowest common denominator neo-con parrot here today! Polly want a cracker?

        ANY of the GoP candidates can be believed in? Bachmann? Ginghrich? …I suppose the tooth fairy can be believed in, but… 

      • Still Here

        Your assessment of our current president is spot on!

      • JP

        Like I said… mindless, unwarranted, buffoonish hatred… and limited to the brain-dead far-right.

      • Terry Tree Tree

        Isn’t someone that can read, MUCH better than a bufoon that couldn’t remember more than four words from the radio in his ear, no matter how badly he massacred common phrases? 
           First four years of ‘W’, he would cock his head to his right, come out with three or four words, cock his head right, come back with three or four words, cock his head right, come back and say three or four words, regardless of how the phrasing of the speech should have been! 
           Go back and look at the video.  You supported a radio-controlled, self-admitted AWOL, evidently deserter, that couldn’t read!

        • Terry Tree Tree

          I hope the above comment will be placed under Consultant , later.

        • Modavations

          I get whip lash watching Obama pivot from one teleprompter to another.Even when he’s giving a speech to grade school kids.Did you read he was a Deserter on MOVE ON.

      • Anonymous

        To bad Obama is more akin to a moderate republican than anything else.  Then again your comment speaks volumes about how nutty and misinformed some people on the right are.
        Yeah Santorum and Ron Paul, one might believe in their ideologies, but the majority of Americans who vote are not going to vote for extremist.

        • Modavations

          I consider him a socialist-communist.Romney is a moderate Republican in my opinion

    • Peter Lake

      Obama’s been drifting along with less than 50% approval rating now for months, only changed when Gabby Gifford got shot and Osama got shot.

      In other words, the only thing that makes Obama popular with more than half the public is some violent act.

      Otherwise, most of the public opposes him and the country’s not more than half Republican.

      • TFRX

        Did you completely forget the cratering of Shrub’s approval with voters, even with all the press pretending he was popular?

        Did you completely forget how conveniently a “security crisis” cranked up the terrorific color chart a notch, usually to orange, whenever Bush needed a boost?

        Now you say “violent act”? If Bush didn’t get tired of going after Osama Bin laden, if it didn’t get to be too much work for his lazy butt and he acutally completed what he pledged to do, the GOP would be putting him on Mount Rushmore right now,  and the mainstream press would be cheering it on.

        • Modavations

          Only 21 year olds say Troll,Shrub,Ronnie Rayguns,etc,.

          • TFRX

            No, only 21-year-olds call a slightly-left-of-center corporatist Democrat a “communist”.

            Let’s let you be the arbiter of everyone’s language, especially on the internet, a place where non-verbal communication and vocal inflection don’t exist.

          • Modavations

            Communist-socialist, I said.In my opinion you’re a reactionary and would ban everyone who didn’t tow the Leftist Line

      • Terry Tree Tree

        Obama got shot?  When?  Where?  Who did it?

  • Brett

    Prediction: the GoP ticket will be Romney-Thune (Sen. John Thune). 

    The results from the Iowa caucus show: 
    A) Iowa is a socially conservative state. The tone of the political ads put a lot of emphasis on things like “protecting the sanctity of life” and “having Christian values.” (Candidates are not going to spend money on an angle that won’t provide results.)
    B) Paul was willing to emphasize such aforementioned beliefs in  political ads to get some momentum.
    C) Ostensibly, the 20-Somethings liked Paul’s rhetoric concerning use of our military; 30 and 40-Somethings liked Santorum’s “culture warrior” approach; older Iowans seemed to vote for Romney, seemed to be more moderate than younger Iowans, and seemed to vote for Romney because they felt he has the best chance to beat Obama.

    This year is shaping up to emphasize more than ever how corrupting the money part of politics is:  
    1) Whoever has the most money in their war chest/can raise the most money will win (something Santorum and Paul need to worry about).
    2) The Citizen’s United ruling is already showing how much it is going to corrupt the political process.   

    • Modavations

      What is the difference between a union and IBM

      • Guest

        $5.3 billion in Net Income for IBM  4Q2010.
        I’m guessing the AFL CIO can’t even come up with $ like that.

  • BHA in Vermont

    I think it is pretty sad that the “fortunes” of the candidates are decided in a small state where the most likely caucus participants are not representative of the “average” American voter.

    The majority of U.S. voters are not born again/evangelist yet the candidates pander to them in Iowa. That “message” gets muted in other states. No surprise, they pander to the NRA (a small voting block if ever there was one) in states where the NRA is big. And the Jewish vote? Gotta get that in Florida so talk big about supporting Israel no matter that they have been ignoring UN resolutions for decades.

    The message changes to match the audience.

    I am also appalled by many of the voter’s we hear quoted. Yesterday, one said no to Romney because Mormans can’t be trusted and don’t follow the bible. Another liked Santorum because he has a firm handshake. And all the “whoever can beat Obama” quotes. Do these people even THINK about what the candidates will do to “take back our country”??

    • Brett

      Your assessment of the Iowa caucus is spot on! 

  • mary elizabeth

    As children growing up in the fifties in a suburban  neighborhood of one car familes and stay at home Moms, it was not unusual to be asked to run next door to borrow a cup of sugar or milk.  Without access to a car families  relied  on each other rather than being able to run to the store.  Husbands borrowed tools and families gathered  spontaneously.  My mother cared for a neighbors’ children during a family illness.
    No doubt, some of this continues, but I rarely see my neighbors. Houses are empty for most of the days and at night the two car garages are full.
    E-Mail now takes the place of a phone call in which the human voice is heard.
    This is not a criticism, just an observation of how greater affluence and technology fosters less need for interdependance and the loss of a source of human connection.

    • mary elizabeth

      Sorry, above is wrong thread.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6CO5C2HE4WM2OYGCDVWGPRXXM oldman

    What i’d like to see brought up is if/how the media manipulates campaigns to provide a more attractive/exciting product for their audiences. A done deal doesn’t attract viewers – a close race will.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t it amazing that the mainstream media’s candidate (Romney) had close to 75% of the caucus goers vote against him and yet the media says he is a lock to get the nomination! LOL

  • Anonymous

    It is still going to be anyone but Mitt even after he gets the nomination.  The crazy Republican base won’t be happy with anyone who doesn’t share their zeal and anyone who does is too flawed to be elected. 

  • Anonymous

    Santorum has plenty of wild things that he said. 

  • Anna from Nashville

    It bothers me that these caucuses are held in states that are primarily White. Why is this? Why do the residents of Iowa and New Hampshire have so much say over political elections? Wouldn’t it be more representative of the real America to have these caucuses in the most populated cities?

    • Anonymous

      We should have two national primaries.  The first to narrow the field to two candidates.

    • Modavations

      Do you know the purpose of the electoral college?

  • Anonymous

    Santorum put 100% of his resources in one state.  Romney has the resources to withstand a long race.  Unless Santorum is the last anti-Romney standing, he won’t have the funds.  And Newt isn’t going away quietly. 

    • Terry Tree Tree

      That’s the Republican Jobs Plan, to employ the extreme, unfounded, attack ad writers, and media, that has NO morals, but the $MILLIONS.  Everyone else can fight for jobs!

      • Modavations

        And the business plan of the Democrat is to keep the poor man,poor.That keeps the Social Worker employed

  • TFRX

    Nothing about how Iowa Republicans are fine with letting anybody in to these caucases, without ID, and are also dedicated to their “Keep Out the Vote” legislation on Election Day?

    • Terry Tree Tree

      HYPOCRICY anyone?

    • Modavations

      Ever hear about Acorn?.

  • TweedleDumDee

    Oh boy, here we go. Ms. Alfano already dismissing Iowa’s Ron Paul statement by stating that they chose “2 non-clownish” candidates.

    Paul garnered tremendous broad support from both true conservatives, for whom religion is but another freedom to be protected, not advanced, to Independents who understand his monetary/banking and war criticisms.

    It’s becoming clear that Paul would be the biggest challenge to Obama, if independents are what matter.

    The GOP is so Establishment, that they would rather lose, than have a real candidate like Paul who challenges the status quo.

    • Anonymous

      Oh boy, here we go. . .

      • TweedleDumDee

        Have anything substantive to add?  How Paul is wrong on Banking and War and our looming bankruptcy?

        Or just playing the status quo defender?

        • Anonymous

          The same Ron Paul is being ignored statement is posted constantly.  He is wrong on banking.  The current system needs to be reformed but simplistic libertarian myths and returning to the gold standard aren’t going to fix it.  I agree with him that Iraq was a mistake. 

          • Anonymous

            People who go on about returning to the gold standard, such as Ron Paul, are fools. Those who follow this line of thinking need to go back an read some history. Banks use to print their own notes backed up by gold and silver.
            If there was a run on the bank and they ran out of gold or silver, which was common, the economy was very unstable.  This was a real problem and which is why we now have one currency. For better or worse the Fed was set up to create more stability in the baking system.
            People need to understand the history of this. At least I think it would be helpful to understand this in context to Ron Paul’s crazy ideas about banking.

          • TweedleDumDee

            Keep reading Jeffe.  At least come to us with a non-gold mechanism to hold the ability of unaccountable officials to print and inflate our way into bankruptcy, or indebted servitude.

            The Fed was huge in our latest bubble.

            You are over you head and just parrot the pro-Fed uncritical establishment defense.

            http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard240.html

            Monetary Breakdown of the West.

            Read it, and then make your arguments and points.

            Maybe it doesn’t have to be gold, but it has to be something.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            NOW, you’re on to something! 
               Gold has been utilized in industry for hundreds of years!   It’s NOT just used in jewelry!
               You share the responsibility to come up with an alternative to your un-functionable proposal, Dave.

          • TweedleDumDee

            I’m not convinced yet that its any more “unfunctionable” than the status quo, but I appreciate your open mind.

            How about Tally Sticks….  :)

            http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936

          • Modavations

            Gold is an inflation hedge.

          • Anonymous

            Again, you don’t seem to understand the why’s of how the current banking system came into being. Things were going pretty well until Glass-Steagall was done away with. It’s also interesting how you are backing off of the gold standard idea.

            You are also mixing up monetary policies of Europe and the US. While we are connected our systems are very different. Seems to me you might want to some reading yourself.

            I could not get past the first few paragraphs of that essay you linked to.
            It was so full of false information and seemed to leave out a lot of historical facts, such as the frequent run o banks throughout the 19th century.
            I can’t take this kind of stuff seriously as its’ not based on facts and if this is how you base your ideas well I don’t know what to say except good luck with that. Funny how you name yourself TweedleDumDee.
            You do know that Lewis Carroll used the twin brothers as examples of fools.

          • Still Here

            Please elaborate with specific details on the issues directly caused by the amendment of Glass-Steagall. 

          • Anonymous

            It separated commercial banking from investment banking, tightened bank regulation and created deposit insurance, the FDIC. The demise of the Glass-Stegall act did away with the regulations on banks taking the risks that caused the economic downturn.  

          • TweedleDumDee

            “Libertarians like Ron Paul are on our side on civil liberties. They’re on our side against the military-industrial complex. They’re on our side against Wall Street. They’re on our side for investor rights. That’s a foundational convergence,” he exhorts. “It’s not just itty-bitty stuff.” 
            -Ralph Nader

            You are in a chinese finger puzzle Jeffe.  Release.

          • Still Here

            Hardly specific enough.  What regulation within G-S was removed and support the causation you imply?  Otherwise your narrative seems completely off base.

          • TweedleDumDee

            Backing off?  It was only in your and other’s around here knee-jerk minds that I was some rabid Gold-standard person. Classic around here.  I understand the mechanism it was meant to serve, and am aware we have nothing in it’s place anymore.

            If you want to defend inflationism as an economic model, you should make that case. It hurts the least among us the worst.  Those with government jobs and cost of living raises do just fine. Wall St Cronies do fine. People who accept the notion of real work and saving, get screwed.  Well connected win, honest people lose.

          • TweedleDumDee

            I also never defend the Glass-Steagall repeal around here. I just point out the rank hypocrisy that it occurred under Clinton. Just like Hillary and her credit card bill.

            As I’ve often said, I barely even bother with the establishment GOP criticism, as it’s too obvious and easy. Its time to shake of the DNC half now, bring power back to the people. 

          • BHA in Vermont

            It would be a bit difficult to return to the gold standard since there isn’t enough gold in the ENTIRE WORLD to back the US treasury let alone the rest of the world.

          • TweedleDumDee

            Hence the global bankruptcy. The elites never meant to have to play by the rules of money and saving, that’s for the rest of us schleps and honest people.

            Sound money is the friend of the little guy.  Guess what, we can’t all be elites.

            Add silver, add platinum, whatever, we need an anchor to our monetary supply or politicians will keep on spending it to buy votes on unkept promises while we slip further into servitude.

          • Modavations

            I could do it in 5 years.We had the gold standard till 1973(?)

          • Modavations

            He’s right about everything!!!!I just can’t vote for a guy whose eyes roll around in his head.

    • nj
      • Modavations

        Arn’t you the guy who is always complaining about redundant posts.

  • BHA in Vermont

    TWO THIRDS of the registered voters in the country are NOT Republican.
    How do these “I’m farther right than the other candidates” people hope to appeal to the rest of the country in a general election??

    • Brett

      The GoP candidates will move as far right as they think they need to go to keep momentum going after New Hampshire, then the emerging candidate will move back toward the moderate position after the convention (for the general election), hoping people have short memories.

      • BHA in Vermont

        “hoping people have short memories.”

        Well that is a guaranteed bet isn’t it? We’ve seen it year after year.

        Newt is banking on that short memory.
        Eighty-four ethics charges were filed against Gingrich during his term as speaker. He was having an affair with his NOW wife when he leading the impeachment proceedings against Clinton. The man is a hypocrite.

        He now claims he works well to get things done yet when he was speaker of the house, he shut down the government.  I guess if you are a “my way or the highway” type, that IS getting things done.

        • Modavations

          I take it you understand he was convicted of one charge and exonerated by the IRS,the next year.It was a friggin college course

    • Modavations

      It’s 34% Republican,33% Dems and the rest unaffiliated

  • EB

    Mr. Ashbrook, PLEASE do not call what the evangelicals do an “Iowa” stamp.  It’s an evangelical stamp that has nothing to do with the rest of us.  We Iowans are not all religiously crazy, and we do not want to be lumped together as all evangelically crazy.

  • Jim

    Rick Santorum has indeed said outrageous things. Famously he said the following about child abuse by priests in the Boston area: liberalism and moral relativism in American society, particularly within seminaries, contributed to the Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal. He wrote, “…it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum

    • Terry Tree Tree

      Did he ignore ALL the other places the Catholics were abusing and molesting children?
          What kind of ‘Family Values’ is that?

    • Anonymous

      Is it just me or does a statement like this not scare people about Santorum’s ideology. He was also endorsed extremist evangelicals such as Bob Vander Plaats and Chuck Hurey who advocate the execution of gays not to mention the his blatant racist statements about African Americans. 

    • Modavations

      I’m not a Santorum guy,but I totally agree.Priests are Democrats,just a subset of Social Workers

  • jim

    i am really glad Santorum got recognized. i am a democrat and if i have the choice of evils i prefer to have Santorum over someone who is not trustworthy like Mitt Romney.

  • Ellen Dibble

    Didn’t the Manchester Guardian come out for Gingrich?  Isn’t Gingrich feeling his oats right now, ready to come to the debate in New Hampshire this weekend and channel all his emotional heat and intellectual keenness against Romney?  Does he know how to do that by now, how to demolish a rival?  We know Romney knows how to “allow” his super PAC to bury a rival on his behalf, “Romney-boat” Gingrich.  But Gingrich has another weapon, his wit.  That only requires a venue like a debate to unleash.

    • Elizabeth R.

      To the best of my knowledge, British newspapers do not endorse candidates in U.S. Republican presidential contests in Iowa. LOL!

      • BHA in Vermont

        She couldn’t have meant Manchester New Hampshire by any chance?  :)

        On the other hand, the BBC does a LOT more coverage of our elections than our media does of elections in ANY country that is not the USA.

      • Modavations

        I have more faith in the British papers then the American

    • Brett

      Gingrich is going to have to rely on wit; he is running out of money. 

      Gingrich has already taken off the gloves, calling Romney a liar yesterday (so much for “running a positive campaign”). Romney can outspend him on attack ads, though. 

      • Anonymous

        It isn’t negative when it is true.  Romney is a liar.

        • Brett

          Concerning the superpac stuff: Romney is a liar. My point is that Newt will seize any opportunity to use attacks for political expediency. He was just saying he is going to run a positive campaign back when it was convenient, sounded good, and his “positive” looked better than Paul’s/Romney’s negatives. Now that some of those negative campaign strategies/attack ads got candidates traction in Iowa, Newt will try the same tactic. 

          • Modavations

            Are you a mouse in his pocket.I would say,in my opinion,Romney is a liar

      • TFRX

        “Wit” may be one thing when Newt is debating other Republicans, with a Beltway Inbred moderating, and a room full of Republicans.

        In the real world, outside their hothouse, “wit” may well mean something else.

        When Republicans are involved, there’s very little concern in our media about having to appeal to the rest of America.

        • BHA in Vermont

          Candidates don’t need much in the way of campaign contributions any more. The Supreme Court took care of that. Any person or business can anonymously donate as much money as they like to the PACs who will “swift boat” any opposing candidate that rises even slightly above the rest.

          • TweedleDumDee

            We should remove the anonymity. Can’t stop the ability of people to do what they want with their money, but if it’s used as speech in a public event (voting), it should not be secret.

            People are smart enough to connect the dots between contributors and expectations, as long as we have transparency.  

          • Modavations

            I’m with you.People I know, arn’t swayed by political ads?

          • TweedleDumDee

            yes, but the benevolent dictators around here think people who don’t think like them are too dumb to think for themselves.

          • Modavations

            And that,my friend,is why the communist is loathed

          • Modavations

            What’s the difference between IBM and A Union?

  • Velocipede

    I would really love it if media members, especially those on NPR like Mr. Ashbrook who strive to keep all sides of a conversation honest, would stop letting right wing candidates and pundits refer to things like homophobia as “values”.  Please point out what it truly is, bigotry.

    • TFRX

      This concern is valid and I posit that it’s a natural result of having more Republicans on public radio.

      But there is always an excuse to have more Republicans, right-wingers, and self-described conservatives on public radio. Ask their ombud.

      When the host is the left-most person on the panel, the result is doomed to disappoint.

      • Modavations

        Do you realize us Laissez faire types think the press is left,left,left..90% of journalists say they are Democrats.

        • TFRX

          Yes, because the press is a democracy, and their votes outweigh editors and publishers and advertisers.

          Just another subject on which you seem underinformed.

    • TweedleDumDee

      http://www.dailypaul.com/198817/aclu-report-card-puts-ron-paul-above-president-obama

      ACLU puts Paul above Obama.

      Wake up and grow up people.

      Stop being so fearful and let the Constitution work to preserve your rights, and your freedoms.

      Stop with the either/or inanity that the mainstream 2-party establishment loves you to hang on to.

    • Terry Tree Tree

      For Catholics, it’s HYPOCRICY!

    • Modavations

      In a free country uyou can be a homophobe,rascist,etc,.What are you afraid of?.Use it as a teaching moment.

      • TFRX

        Pfft. In the real world, pretending that homophobes aren’t homophobes is hard work, like indulging my four-year-old nephew by pretending his poop-humor is funny.

        Adults don’t have to do that for other adults.

  • Ellen Dibble

    Santorum, as a Catholic, in what I hear has a large Catholic population?  Hmm.  Also, never underestimate the “silent majority”-type intensity of those with a deep abhorrence of homosexuals.  One might not feel free to go and beat them up outside a bar anymore; but one could certainly seize the opportunity to vote for someone who “understands” that position — that would be nationwide.

    • Terry Tree Tree

      They ignore the HYPOCRICY  of their own church!
         Child-Molesting and Child-Abuse is okay, but fire and brimstone on the consenting adults that produces?

      • Anonymous

        Santorum blamed that on the liberal Boston media for reporting it and not the child rapists.

        • Terry Tree Tree

          Is that a surprise from a Catholic?

          • Modavations

            I dare you to go one day without your incessant cry against religion and your endless reference to greedy rich.I implore you,tell us of the abuse you suffered by a priest and be done with it man.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Are you perchance a Catholic, or a priest?

          • Modavations

            I’m atheist,but I can’t stand cry babies,who bring up their Bete-Noir,every friggin day.tHAT GGOES FOR YOUR INCESSANT “gREEDY rICH”,TOO.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Have you looked at your own posts for those issues?  HYPOCRICY?
               Or just a dictatorial demand?

          • Modavations

            One day I asked you for an example.I asked you twenty times withiout reply.Now give me an example of where I ever called someone idiot,troll,etc,.

          • TFRX

            You, Mr. Limposis and (maybe projecting) continual tosser-off of  gender-Bend insults, self-professed consumer of the wrong psychoactive meds, say you can’t stand cry-babies?

            That someone else should go one day without a particular subject (on which they make more sense than you)?

            Hilarious!

          • TFRX

            Oops. Didn’t close mys there.

          • Modavations

            I ask again,when have I ever called anyone a Troll,idiot,Einstein,Poopsie,in need of medication,vile little man,etc,.I doesn’t happen,because I don’t run out of arrows in my intellectual quiver.So again,example .

          • TFRX

            You’re the one who’s mentioned your balance of psychoactive meds.

            If I could trust you when you said, “Water is wet”, I might trust you if you said you were kidding about your meds.

            Otherwise all I can do is interpret your words.

          • Modavations

            You tell me I’m off my meds daily(excuse me if I’m getting the cast of characters,confused).The problem is you are finally confronted by a new world view and don’t know how to handle it.In my opinion

  • Samuel C.

    As a proud liberal who will support Obama in the next presidential election, all I can say is I hope and pray that Rick Santorum is the Republican nominee! Go Rick!

    • TFRX

      Ol’ Man-on-Dog certainly is benefitting from a frothing of support right now.

  • TweedleDumDee

    Tom can you ask your guests who got the most Independent votes?

    What does that say for the general election?

    Thank you.

    • Anonymous

      I think that the Republican Iowa Caucus is secret ballot.

      • TweedleDumDee

        They did entrance-polling asking questions. One was of those who described themselves as independent, and they were OVERWHELMINGLY for Ron Paul.

        We don’t need the evangelicism, and can still have true conservatism, as well as banking and war skepticism.

  • AJ Farkas

    Let’s not make the mistake of thinking that the Iowa caucuses bear any correlation to the race. It’s simply a means of eliminating those who truly have no chance (Bachmann, Perry etc.).
    Santorum is defined quite well (look it up, but not at work): his hate speech should cause him to be shunned from any civilized society, and yet, a few thousand who did so little research that they were still deciding who to vote for yesterday think he’s even remotely electable. Our system is well and truly broken.

    • BHA in Vermont

      Generalization, I know, but:
       Evangelicals are “anti gay” as is Santorum. They didn’t need to do any research. It would have just validated their opinion that he supports the “values” he supports.

      • BHA in Vermont

        OOPS!
        “that he supports the “values” they support.”

  • Anonymous

    It is great that Santorum loves his child.  Who cares?  Hitler had a dog which he loved (probably not in a santorum man on dog way though).

    • TFRX

      I’m curious what kind of cognitive dissonance and “equality for mine but not for thine” Santorum could pretend to have if one of his kids was gay.

  • Erin in Iowa

    My question for Republican voters is this:  What next?  If they pick a candidate that can beat Obama, is that the platform?  If any of these candidates end up in the White House…  So what?  What then? What will that mean? They may win the game, but so what?

    • Modavations

      There are two types.Those who worship the state and those who extoll the individual.

      • TweedleDumDee

        A mix of self-entitlement/materialistic consumerism and sympathy for a benevolent dictator idea, is dragging us down.

        Maybe should be saying this on the Self-Reliance hour….

        • Anonymous

          Oh please, what a load of cow dung.

          • TweedleDumDee

            How so?

          • Modavations

            He ran out of bullets again

      • BHA in Vermont

        Perhaps a bit too polar?

    • BHA in Vermont

      They are going to “take back the country”!

      Sounds like a big game of “tug of war”. Every few years we have elections and the flag in the middle of the rope moves somewhat to the other side of the middle of the mud pit. But there is no progress to improving the country.

  • guest

    Dream on Honey if you think liberal women ‘love’ Santorum cause of that speech.  I remember too many of the other mean spirited things that have come out of his mouth.

  • TFRX

    “You could be the most liberal woman on the planet and just love [Santorum],” per Obradovich.

    Okay, can our Iowan find a liberal woman who loves Santorum, or are we just gonna take her word for it?

    I can get this kind of gush from any Beltway ‘expert’. Even our host had to take note.

    • Anonymous

      Don’t worry your pretty head about his positions. — useless guest

  • Worried for the country(MA)

    What happened to the lovable “Uncle” Newt?  Bad Newt is back and it is ugly.

    • Anonymous

      Wife number three is going to dump him if he loses.

      • Terry Tree Tree

        Unless he buys out Tiffany’s?

  • TweedleDumDee

    Your guests are not reflecting the entrance polling.

    “Very Conservatives” were split b/w Paul and Santorum, rejecting Romney.  The difference is Constitutional Conservatives vs Evangelical Conservatives.

    “Indpendents” were huge toward Paul.

    This is important for General Election.  For once we have a candidate that can build a coalition of Anti-war, Anti-Crony Finance, Pro-Civil Liberty voters, leaving out pretty much just the more theocratic or socialistic types.

    • Anonymous

      He is only pro civil liberty on the federal level.  His social policy would match the social conservatives in the way it would impact people’s lives as he would allow the states to intrude.

      • TweedleDumDee

        Baloney.  Are Vermont and California let alone any states going back to Jim Crow?  Give me a break. Even if one did, they would be ostracized and decent people would flee the state and the state would fail. Your arrogance and disdain for your fellow citizens is depressing.

        You guys just cannot give up your benevolent dictator dreams.  Won’t that be fun when all the consolidated power is in the hands of both the banksters, War mongers, AND the theocrats.

        You might wish California and Vermont were more free then……

        Can’t have it both ways.

        • Anonymous

          Southern states are still disenfranchising blacks.  States are restricting women’s rights to reproductive services.  Gays aren’t protected from job descrimitation in many states.  I don’t see how advocating for national protections of civil rights is trying to have it both ways.  The problem is when a government interferes with rights not which level.  Usually the federal government does a better job protecting them.

          • Modavations

            No,no,no,….Democrats were fighting for Jim Crow laws,Dem.were the plantation owners,The Ku Klux Klan were southern democrats and now the Dem.have reenslaved the chattel for a vote.I’ll believe Dems.care for the common man, when they afford the poor the school voucher

          • Anonymous

            Most of the racists switched parties.  LBJ said that would happen when he passed the Civil Rights Act.  Nixon’s Southern Strategy.  

          • Modavations

            Firesign Theater of Brandeis, did a skit about training LBJ to say Negro,instead of N-gger

          • TFRX

            Another history fail from Moda’s Greatest (in the strict sense of the word) Hits (sic).

          • Anonymous

            Try to get right. They were Southern Democrats, and they joined the Republican party in droves after the the civil rights acts of the 60′s. You’re knowledge of history is flawed seems so narrow. It was also debunked in a few seconds. Have you no shame?

          • Modavations

            We have spent 5 trillion on the War on Poverty.I could have cured it for one billion with the  the School Voucher.Of course,you need a dumbed down, dependent voting block.Are you for vouchers?Half the Boston schools are now charters,etc,.The Father of the Republican Party was Lincoln.Robert Byrd Democrat,W.Virginia was the Grand Dragon(Kluggel)

          • Anonymous

            Why are you for subsidizing private institutions with public money?  Shouldn’t they be able to compete in the marketplace?

            I agree that Byrd was a disgrace. 

          • Modavations

            We pay 13,000 per student in the public schools.American students have just recorded the worst scores in all 7 measured disciplines.Only 30%(? 40%) of 4th graders read at proficiency.I’m for what works.

          • BHA in Vermont

            In the 1860s the Republicans held what we now consider to be Democrat values.

            Interestingly both parties thought the GOVERNMENT should pay to build the coast to coast railroad.  BIG GOVERNMENT!

          • Modavations

            It’s fun rewriting history.I suppose the Communist tyrants were just misunderstood.Republicans are businessmen(small).We wanrt everyone to be wealthy so you’ll buy our products.We couldn’t care less about race,sexual preference,etc,.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Then why are the major issues raised by the Republicans about race, sexual preference, dictation against abortion, and other ‘social’ issues, with HYPOCRICY being the glaring feature?

          • Modavations

            Dude,if you don’t like him,don’t vote for him.Are you going to tell me Romney is a rascist and homophobe?

          • Anonymous

            He is a homophobe.  He probably isn’t a racist but I wouldn’t put pandering to racists for votes beneath him.

          • Modavations

            What is your reasoning?

          • Anonymous

            He is against equal marriage rights.  He has switched his position on a number of issues to pander for votes already so I don’t expect him to not do so on race if it will get him votes.  I was going to make a joke that he probably wasn’t a racist after 1978 but I decided that was probably unfair as his parents worked for civil rights so he probably shared their views.  Of course Romney embellished that story by claiming that his father marched with King: http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/10989/did-romneys-father-really-march-mlk-updated

          • Modavations

            He’s for Civil Unions

          • Anonymous

            Not the same thing and he hasn’t been specific as to which marriage rights civil unions would contain.

          • Modavations

            Did you vote for Obama.He was aginst gay marriage

          • Anonymous

            Yes.  I don’t agree with him on everything, I’m not a single issue voter, and he was better than the alternative.  Obama lacks a spine but he isn’t actively working against gay equality and while not perfect he has made progress on some rights and got rid of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. 

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Why don’t the GREEDY rich, 1/2 of 1%, with 60% of the wealth, provide school vouchers for the poor, to their ‘superior’ private schools?

          • Modavations

            Just what is your beef with the School Voucher?.My self interest(Adam Smith) has given succor to more poor then all the world’s welfare programs,combined!!!!The Welfare State gave us the Pervert Priests of which you constantly bemoan.Just more Social Workers

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Perverted priests were around, LONG before the U.S., much less the ‘Welfare State’.

          • Modavations

            Priests are busy body Democrats.They are Social Workers.Do as I say not as i do!!!!

          • TweedleDumDee

            That sounds good on the surface, but the founders didn’t want strong Central Government, based on the lessons of history, not because they were bigoted jerks.

            We will always have jerks, a-holes, bigots and the ignorant around us, whatever government structure, unless you want to “eliminate” them.

            The job of persuasion and changing hearts and minds is ours.

            Then of course there is that Constitution thing which gives us all redress if we feel our rights have been infringed.

          • Anonymous

            The founders realized they needed a stronger government than the failed Articles of Conferation.  The Constitution has been amended several times to expand individual liberties which were often restricted by states. 

          • Anonymous

            Again, you need to read up on your history. Federalist, or white men who supported Jefferson, were fro small government. Hamilton and Washington were all for a strong central government. The Constitution was not meant as stagnant document as you seem to think it is. It is also not meant to be cherry picked for your agenda.

          • Modavations

            Tell me where it says it’s to be an evolving document.The constitution is meaningless.The meat is the Bill of Rights.It’s ability to change is the ammendment.If the left had it’s way the constitution would be outlawed

          • TFRX

            You’re hilarious when you’re totally off your nut. But not in the way you think.

          • Anonymous

            I’m not sure this chap is serious. If he is, well I think my dog has a better take on politics then he does. 

          • TFRX

            “Better take”?

            What, your dog is paper trained exclusively to do his business on the WaPo’s OpEd page? Now that’s what I’d call a smart dog.

          • Modavations

            You guys spend half your time in ad hominem attacks.Try intellectual argument.

          • Anonymous

            You have to be kidding.
             

          • Anonymous

            Oh boy. You need to read up on this before you post.
            The Constitution is meaningless… that has to be the statement of the year and it’s only day 4.

          • Modavations

            Bill of Rights!!!!that’s where the meat is.The rest is nebulous.tripeTry reading the European constitution!!! 

          • Terry Tree Tree

            The Bill of Rights IS proof that the Constitution is an evolving document!  The Bill of rights, is a group of TEN Amendments!
                Your childhood ingestion of mercury and lead paint, are showing more and more!

          • Modavations

            Reread what I said, and my mention of the ammendment as the vehicle of change.Note too,how difficult it is.Now Mercury never affected me or all the other kids I grew up with in Newton,Ma.(voted in the top 5 places to live,for the last 30 years),nor Mercury,nor bike riding without helmets,etc,.That of course, was my point.

          • TweedleDumDee

            “Cherry picking” is the discretionary, as opposed to Rule of Law, not Men, realm of the establishment Democratic and Republican parties.

            They simply debt-spend to pander to our best and worst natures, keeping us dizzy while their banker pals who remain outside the rule of law continue to run the table.

            Bill Black. Glenn Greenwald.

          • TFRX

            I want the “job of changing hearts and minds” for, say, my lesbian niece, to be backed by the force of law.

            Why don’t you go to Iowa and take it by storm with Phyllis, the non-white caller*, and start changing hearts and minds among the close-minded who are dominating the GOP there?

            *(Tom’s description–didn’t hear her say if she was black, Latino, or whatever.)

          • TweedleDumDee

            She should support Ron Paul, not the GOP establishment let alone the DNC constitutional cowards.

            Paul best on civil liberties.  Deal with it, and insist of socialism over civil liberties at your own peril.

            http://www.dailypaul.com/198817/aclu-report-card-puts-ron-paul-above-president-obama

          • Anonymous

            Santorum probably read it first in the Ron Paul racist newletter.

          • TweedleDumDee

            Mindless partisan/establishment shilling.  Too bad.

          • TweedleDumDee
          • Anonymous

            Spreading the cult of Ron Paul with the same talking points, phrases, and Nader quote isn’t exactly evidence of an independent mind.

          • Modavations

            Ron Paul has sucked at the Teet of Govt. for 26 years.

          • TFRX

            Why don’t you go to Iowa and take it by storm with Phyllis, the
            non-white caller, and start changing hearts and minds among the
            close-minded who are dominating the GOP there?

        • BHA in Vermont

          I understand your point, but please.
          There were NEVER any Jim Crow laws in Vermont and slavery was specifically outlawed in its Constitution. It also specifically banned segregation in 1957.

          • TweedleDumDee

            Sounds like liberty and rational/humane argument and decision making at work.

          • TFRX

            Sounds like someone white, male, straight-enough and Christian-seeming enough to never have to worry about being less of a human being when he crosses state lines.

          • TweedleDumDee

            People should do less complaining and using the Federal government as a Benevolent Dictator surrogate, and do more participating in Self-Government and ensuring EVERYONE is held to the Rule of Law.

            The founders gave us a chance to work toward their ideals, even if all the minds of the day weren’t ready, the system is the best we can do to bring a society towards the goals of freedom and justice.

            Frankly, I think people are too unappreciative and lazy and materialistic to rationally self-govern anymore, but I would rather have us crash and burn by the consequences of our collective individual decisions, than cede power irreversibly to a large centralized authority, which historically has always ended poorly.

            I think given the freedom the choose, act, and feel the consequences, we will collectively self-correct and do the “right” things, even if I don’t know what they are right now, or claim the arrogance to define them in stone.

        • Modavations

          There are two types in this world.Those who believe in the State and those who believe in the individual.These guys are the politburo and they know best.

          • nj

            Mindless oversimplification. Not unexpected from you.

          • Modavations

            More ad hominen attacks and a wasteof our time.Answer my point

          • TFRX

            Sounds like you never had your rights taken away by a corporation in Libertopia.

          • Modavations

            Thepresident signed a law on New Years,giving the military the right to detain Americans,in America,without trial or charge.Now that worries me.

          • TFRX

            Either strap on your jetpack and return to Galt’s Gulch, or stop pretending it exists, Foghorn.

          • Modavations

            Out of bullets again?

          • TFRX

            Either strap on your jetpack and return to Galt’s Gulch, or stop pretending it exists, Foghorn.
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      • Modavations

        That system is checks and balances and I say the Feds,have uspurped the states

    • nj
      • TweedleDumDee

        More empty posts and empty thoughts?  It’s been months and you still have no substance.

      • Modavations

        Again,if you’re not sympatico with this guy,you’re a plant,a shill,or a troll.This is what we mean by the intolerant left

        • TFRX

          You really need to go to some right-wing message boards and experience what they’re capable of before anyone here will take your protestations of “intolerance” seriously.

          • Modavations

            Why would I go there.They believe as I do.I come here to learn what the alien life forms think

          • TFRX

            If you think you’re being badly treated by meanies here, the real world will make you soil yourself.

  • Ellen Dibble

    It sounds like the “evangelicals” in Iowa are the easiest bunch to sort of herd, and they were thus herded at the last minute to get together and vote for Santorum.  It sounds like the sort of critical mass of Iowa Republicans actually stayed home.  The same number coming out as in 2008, but lots of those being young people coming out for Ron Paul, and as we heard, sort of defecting from the Obama camp.  For example.

    • BHA in Vermont

      “One issue” voters ARE easy to herd, just tell them what they want to hear. :)

      Of course this time around, they can be two issue voters. Their “regular” issue AND “anyone but Obama”

    • Modavations

      Can you blame them.The emperor has no clothing

  • Ellen Dibble

    “My way or the highway” sounds like the Tea Party to me.  Drop everything and let me do the dictating.  Tyrant government.  Gingrich could do it, yes.  If we want that kind of leadership.  Truly decisive, and with a wink of the eye.  No, I’m not voting for him.

    • Modavations

      Did you realize that on New Years eve,Obama signed the bill,allowing detention of Americans without trial.He said,however,he’d never use the power

  • http://en-gb.facebook.com/onanov Donald Baxter

    I grieve when I hear Phyllis’ call.  Iowa isn’t like this.  Iowa Republican may very well be. The Iowa GOP is a dysfunctional, racist, sexist, obsessive organization.  But that doesn’t represent Iowa.  I don’t plan on conceding my state to the politics of race and gender hatred.  To understand what’s happened in Iowa, read Thomas Frank’s book on Kansas.  “What’s the Matter With Kansas.”

    • Modavations

      Bull!!!!!!

      • BHA in Vermont

        You are suggesting that the Iowa Republican caucus DOES represent the “average” Iowan?

        I don’t live there so I don’t know.

        • Modavations

          Citizens do the deciding around here

    • notafeminista

      You are masterful at marginalizing “the other”.  My hat is off to you sir.

  • Ellen Dibble

    But Newt will attack the attacks not with a campaign war chest of many millions of PAC money, but with pure venom, it seems to me.  Smilingly so, but still.  He’ll have to do it in debates.  We know all about Newt’s baggage.  But can he tell us about the baggage of Romney, of Mitt?  Or will he just say that Mitt’s PAC is throwing mud.  By the way, the mud does stick.  But I’d like to see mud thrown in an equal-opportunity way, not in a Citizens United way.

    • Modavations

      Whats the difference between IBM and a Union

      • BHA in Vermont

        As far as the ABILITY to anonymously donate as much money as they like?

        None

        • Modavations

          40% of Teamsters are Republican.The Union donates 100% Democrat

  • TweedleDumDee

    Your caller doesn’t understand liberty. She’ll get there.

    • Still Here

      You mean like the liberty to vote for whatever candidate whatever the reason and the liberty of others to denigrate your exercise of that liberty. 

  • TFRX

    Sue, the Chair of the Iowa Dems, calls in.

    That’s what happens on a public radio show: The best way to get an actual Democrat (not some concern troll Harold Ford or Blowmentum) on the air is for them to call in on the listener line.

    And “We’ll see how Barack Obama drives the football down the field when the game is really on” by our host completely neglects how bubble-rific the All-GOP All-the-time our mainstream press (NPR included) has been for over a year on the primary/decision 2012 front.

  • Ellen Dibble

    Those like Taylor who just called, disenchanted with Obama — I’m wondering if we might all find out that Obama found out he had to kowtow to big campaign funders (lobbyists, etc) soon after getting into office.  First he said he would go without having a second term.  THEN he found out he couldn’t get his agenda passed in one term — strikingly so after the 2010 elections when Democrats lost the House.  So then he REALLY had to kowtow to Big Money.  My hope?  Once he’s reelected, and has NO prospects of another term — and Hopefully without a Republican log jam on Capitol Hill — THEN the real Obama surfaces.  FINALLY.

    • BHA in Vermont

      I think Obama’s “mistake” (as was mine) was in thinking that if the President was willing to work with both sides, both sides would work for the common good.

      We were naive. As long as ANY Senator or Congress “person” thinks “fighting a good fight” is positive, we will have a “Do nothing” government. The 1% will become the 1/2% and the rest will suffer more.

      We can go back to the days when only the rich were educated, only the rich had access to health care. Everyone else can work 12 hours 7 days a week starting at age 12 and die young.

      • TweedleDumDee

        The problem is the majority of the country does not have  Democratic Socialism leanings, and Obama’s campaign was enough of an inkblot test that alot of people thought he really was for transparency, change in Washington, etc etc, and not just a Government solutions person.

        No Bankers in jail. Too busy in his administration.

        Those independents are breaking for Paul now.  They despised Bush, and they lost faith in Obama. They see through Romney, and are not theocrats.  

        IMO

        • TweedleDumDee

          They trust individual American citizens, more than they trust Big Government or Big Finance.

        • Anonymous

          If the Democrats are socialist then that means the Republicans are fascist.
          At least by your absurdity. 

          • Modavations

            All the fascist regimes started as socialist-communist

      • Terry Tree Tree

        The hours were longer, and the workers were younger, back then.

      • Modavations

        80% of American Millionaires are self made men

        • Terry Tree Tree

          Self-made, or self-stolen?  How many of them became $Millionaires, by selling bad debt, insider trading (a felony), or other illegal, or immoral means?

          • Still Here

            You have one gigantic chip on your shoulder.

          • Modavations

            Self made!!!!!.Not like Corzine and the rest of the cronies

          • Terry Tree Tree

            I’m SOOOO surprised that you left out ‘Kenny Boy Lay’, Tom Delay, etc….

        • Anonymous

          Wrong. They became rich with the help of roads built by other Americans. They became rich with the help of police, fire and public workers who made their towns and cities safe for them to do busniess in.
          People do not become wealthy in a vacuum.
          Of course you seem to have a very myopic view of the world.

          • Modavations

            .You have the chicken before the egg.I heard the same comments from Ms.Warren.Steve Jobs would be nowhere without govt.This my friend, is anathema to free men.

    • Modavations

      Excuses,excuses,excuses.The Dems. had the Presidency,Senate and House.I take it you realize Pres.Obama eschewed private finance and said he’d stick to Federal political financing.Dems.get twice as much Wall Street money as Republicans.What were the charlatans SATs.

      • John in Amherst

        Without a super majority in the senate,which the Dems never got, the ability to pass legislation and confirm nominations has never been in their hands.  Blame the antiquated arcane rules of the senate, not Obama’s ability or lack there of to get things done.  From day one of his presidency, the official, explicit goal of the GOP has been to defeat his re-election bid at any cost.  What has resulted is historic grid lock, record numbers of vacancies in government posts, and an economy stuck in low gear, all so the GOP stands a chance of regaining power to do the bidding of the wealthiest conservatives among us.

        • Modavations

          Excuses,excuses,excuses.The Democrats defected on the key votes

          • John in Amherst

            You are right in that there are no excuses.  Politics is the art of compromise.  The GOP has consistently refused to compromise, i.e.: they have not performed in their roll as democratically elected politicians.  After 3+ years of refusing to do their jobs, its past time to show them the door. 

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

            Compromise?  Bitch McConnell has made no secret that the Republican party’s main goal is to destroy Obama’s presidencncy. How is that for the good of the Nation? These lying corrupt Republicans should be serving the rest of their lives in jail. Locked up for the theives they are.

          • Modavations

            McConnels obligation is to fight against a party with a world view,diametrically opposed to his own.He says no,I say hell no.!!!I doubt he has personal animous.How old are you?Bitch McConnel,please!!!!

          • John in Amherst

            YOU are critiquing soemone else’s snarky, juvenile responses??

          • Modavations

            example please

          • Modavations

            Last week you wanted to hang Bush and Cheney without trial.I think you have violence issues.

          • Modavations

            Compromise my a–.The reason for an “opposition,is to oppose

          • Anonymous

            Which is why I oppose everything you write here. It’s all a load of misinformed rhetoric.

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

          You are on target. The commentator “Modivations” is delusional.

          • Modavations

            In the world of the “overlord”,one is delusional if not in lock step with the prescribed view of the “left”

          • Anonymous

            I rest my case.

        • Anonymous

          To bad this chap wont listen to reason.
          It’s not in his DNA.

          • Modavations

            You react to my world view.I don;’t call people names.How many times,for instance,have I ever called you guys Trolls.?

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NUQ4XMTZ32OAXZSJHIWPBOOJ2I GH

          and let’s not forget the “blue dogs”  Obama never had a majority.

    • TweedleDumDee

      Ellen, that is true Tweedle-Dum, Tweedle-Dee thinking and I didn’t think you would go there.

      The electorate rightly does not have the trust or patience to give 4 years of complicity to the real masters,  in the hope that in the end they will be righteous.

      I felt that way about Clinton in my more Democratic days…..

      So much of the nonsense that gave us the crises was proudly delivered by Clinton and his Republican partners.

      We wanted an Obama who was going to “Call Out”, as he advertised, the wrong doers.

      If Washington is rotten and corrupt and powers are coming down on him, he should have the courage to come out to American People and tell it like it is.

      He is either complicit or a coward.

      • Modavations

        Pres.Obamais a crook in my opinion.He bought his house from Rezco for $300,000.00 below market.Rezco was a slum lord and is in penitentiary .The guy from Solyendra was a Dem.Bundler.

        • Terry Tree Tree

          ‘W’ profited greatly, for bankrupting how many companies? 
              Granted that Rezco is in prison, and the Obama house deal has some smell to it!  How many political aspirants do NOT have questionable deals, or stances?   I wish ALL of them had squeaky-clean backgrounds! 
             I’m NOT defending Obama’s house deal.  It needs scrutiny by people that have NO questionable past or actions, that they are trying to distract from.
              Halliburton was only 1 of 5 companies that could have handled the job in Iraq, according to an oil executive that I talked with!  No-bid?
             The concept of the Solyendra Solar Collector, was pretty good!   Probably could have been a profitable business, if China had NOT timed their dumping of Solar Cells to hurt them.
             I have issues with ANY business, that gets government contracts, that have major political contribution interests.
             The Republicans claim the ‘moral highground’, so why don’t THEY clean up their act completely, before finding fault with others?

          • Modavations

            To quote Obama and the house”,I shouldn’t have done that”!!!Are you referring to Romney?How many employees does Staples have.KKR not Haliburton and that company is owned by the heirs of Lady Byrd Johnson.Term Limits cleans everything up.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Halliburton got the most attention for getting ‘NO-bid’ contracts!  The media actually pointed out that Dick Cheney had just left there to run for Vice President! 
               What’s KKR?

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

          And who, in your opinion, is a pillar of honesty and integrity in the political class? Nobody.

          • Modavations

            All the guys who pledged to abide by their pledge of term limits.

          • Anonymous

            A pledge made and broken mostly by Republicans.  It was part of Newt’s Contract on America.

          • Modavations

            78% of Americans want term limits.Maybe a 13% congressional approval rating has something to do with it

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Isn’t Newt ALWAYS true to his word?  Just ask his first two wives?

          • Modavations

            George Washington(the first to embrace Term Limits),Brownback,Coburn

  • TweedleDumDee

    For once we have a candidate that can build a coalition of Anti-war, Anti-Crony Finance, Pro-Civil Liberty voters, and Financial Conservatives, leaving out pretty much just the more theocratic or socialistic types.
    What more do you want? Unless you are a theocrat or socialist….

    “Libertarians like Ron Paul are on our side on civil liberties. They’re on our side against the military-industrial complex. They’re on our side against Wall Street. They’re on our side for investor rights. That’s a foundational convergence,” he exhorts. “It’s not just itty-bitty stuff.” 

    -Ralph Nader

  • Ellen Dibble

    So he’ll corral the hate-and-fear vote.  Probably a large constituency for him there, sad to say.  (Speaking of Santorum here)

    • Anonymous

      It was at least 25% among Iowa Republicans.

  • nj

    These next few months of tawdry political theater are going to be hard to take. Is there a deserted island somewhere?

    The mere fact that this gaggle of clowns is the best the country has to offer is mind-numbingly depressing.

    Mitt “I’ll say anything to please anybody” Romney

    Rick “Man on dog, Don’t Google my name” Santorum

    Ron “I dont’ believe in evolution, and What global warming” Paul

    Newt “Endorsed by adulterers everywhere” Gingrich

    Rick “Oops, Welcome to “Niggerhead” Camp” Perry

    Barack “The Great Compromiser” Obama

    Ugh!

    Coming after eight years of Dubya, it’s hard not to be embarrassed for the country.

  • Ellen Dibble

    So the Republicans have actually found a candidate who is non-Mormon, a guy with limited tolerance for differences (straight and proud of it), and a minority (aka white, at this point, I believe).  Brilliant.  He doesn’t even have to pretend.  He’s the real deal.  (But how is it he lost his last election from Pennsylvania not so long ago?)

  • Ellen Dibble

    Well said.  That’s called the old-fashioned work ethic, and the Republicans want to revive it.  Been there, done that; the strategy is NOT lifting all boats.  It’s DROWNING all boats, and WHOLE ISLANDS.

    • Modavations

      Have you read JFK’s economic speeches?Islands drown through subduction and abduction of continental plates and socialism

  • S48stauffer

    I hardly think I’m “the most liberal woman in the world”, although I admit to being left of Obama…but I, for one, will not be gaga for Rick Santorum.  It does not shock me that he did so well, after all, every candidate save Huntzman has had his/her day of ascension with the fickle Republicans.  Now it is his turn to be under scrutiny.  This could begin with the rascist comment that Phyllis highlighted, and just typifies the sort of thing that hops out of his mouth on the heels of his sanctimonious phrases.  Hopefully there will be some inquiry as to WHY HE WAS VOTED OUT OF THE SENATE IN HIS OWN STATE!  As a Western Pennsylvanian I can say “he is an embarrassment, but bring him on”  The state will be sure not to go Republican.
    I never expected to be happy with Obama and he has not disappointed me. I have supported him from the inception, and will do so again.

  • John in Amherst

    DOG BITES MAN!!  What is with the media hysteria churned up by the Iowa caucus?  A group that is 99% white, 60+% self-identified Christian “values voter” gets together an casts a majority of their votes for the candidates who identify themselves as born again, anti-choice, and who make coded and not so coded language remarks about Obama’s race, national loyalty, etc., and this leads to hyperventilating analyses by the media pundits?  And while the results are hashed over in terms of who got what percentage of the vote, it is up to callers on shows like this to point out that the candidates make racist remarks, want to revoke Roe v. Wade, etc.   Once again, the media focusses on the “horse race”, and who has the best organization, instead of policies.  This only feeds the beast in terms of validating PAC money expenditures, and the extortionist tactics of groups like the evangelical right, the teapartiers and the NRA, and thereby hobbles the ability of politicians, once elected, to do what they are paid a salary to do, i.e.: debate rationally and reach compromise solutions.  When will candidates stop pandering to the extremists?  When the media pulls the plug on a primary system that is totally dysfunctional, and pays more attention to candidates’ positions and their implications and less to personalities and percentages. 

    • notafeminista

      Man I wish I could get my hands on that code book.

  • Joewww

    I’ve been a Republican for 50+ years and this comment from the “You Said It” post on the Connecticut Post editorial page sums up my opinion perfectly: “I have been a (centrist) Republican all my life and I tell you I would not vote for any of the current Republican candidates for president. They are radical, dangerous, put party before country and certainly (are) not presidential. Imagine any of these demagogues in the White House. What an embarrassment.” (My thanks to the author.)

    • John in Amherst

      This kind of political race is the outcome of the antiquated primary system (which favors candidates who take the most extreme positions) and big money interests that can buy the most propaganda (made all the worse by the Supreme court’s recent ruling on campaign finances and corporate “personhood”).  Solutions:  revamp the primaries so they are all proportional votes and happen at the same time, preferably within weeks of the convention.  This would blunt the effects of money from PACs and wealthy donors, and, hopefully, sharpen the attention of voters, who are currently bored by policy debate and seem to prefer a “reality TV” approach for choosing a leader.  Politics is constantly likened to football.  But football has rules that govern play to make it more safe and fair.  It does, perhaps, limit “freedom of expression (play)” on the field, but it makes for a game that is sustainable and sane.  There are ways to rejigger the election system, but they will be fought tooth and nail by the powers that be, because it will diminish their influence. 

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

      Well said, thanks.

    • Modavations

      If you ever voted Republican, I’d eat my hat.Since when has Romney become a Radical?

      • Terry Tree Tree

        Salt or catsup?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

    So Bachmann backs out? So what…it is just one less clown in a conga line of clowns. The only rational one in the group is Huntsman and he does not stand a chance.

    • Modavations

      Arn’t you the guy who wanted to hang Bush and Cheney without trial?

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

        You bet, and still do. So what’s it to you?

        • Modavations

          Without a trial?And Hillary and Kerry and Pelosi???

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

            I see that you are another Republican with AMNESIA. It was your demi-god Bush who lied and got us into 2 wars, WASTED TRILLIONS of our tax dollars and KILLED thousands of our young people.

            People like you are criminally complicit in Bush’s crimes for excusing them.

          • notafeminista

            Better amnesia than selective truth.  It is a well known fact that the Left considers themselves to be smarter and more enlightened than the rest of us. (So much so that they think they can live our lives better for us that we can.) It’s also a well known fact that the Left did and does consider former President George W. Bush to be dumber than dirt.  Do you really want to claim that you were lied to and hoodwinked by a man that you think (collectively) isn’t smart enough to tie his own shoes? Is that what you are claiming?

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

            You miss the point entirely. I knew Bush was lying…..about most things, even prior to his election. No, I was NEVER hoodwinked (and yes he is dumb). I knew the man was a criminal fraud and never believed him. from day one. You take 2 & 2 and come up with 5. It is precisely because of people like you that people like HIM can get elected.

          • Still Here

            Nobody lies more than Obama!

          • TFRX

            Sod off, punk. When’s the last time you got called a traitor for your politics?

            My guess is that you were in the mob with your (rhetorical) pitchfork and torch before Iraq.

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

            And in what wet dream did you imagine that?

          • Fredlinskip

            Nobody?

            I don’t know if your statement is made out of ignorance or is deliberately false, but like W (I think even Modavation’s guppy would agree) -it’s still a lie. lie.

          • notafeminista

            But the people who you claim represent you and your fellow travelers believed him – as evidenced by their numerous statements to that.  So either they were lying before the invasion, or they were lying after.   You can pick which.

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

            Still trying to prove that 2 & 2 is 5, eh? I made no claim of ANYONE representing me. You are truly delusional.

          • Fredlinskip

            Whether he lied deliberately or because he was just ignorant, misleading the  American people into unnecessary War (among other things) is still a crime.

          • notafeminista

            Missing the point here Fred.  The Democrats who went along with President Bush. What is their excuse?

      • Fredlinskip

        No, I’d definitely want a nationally televised trial first.

  • JamieBuelt

    Ron Paul was the best of the field if you want to protect our rights, limit war, manage the debt and right-size government. Nonetheless, the field isn’t that great. If you want an ecclesiastical candidate, Santorum says he’s the man. The rest of his schtick is vague, Tea Party-esque soundbytes. My guess judging from the rise and fall of others is that he has about a five-minute honeymoon before people start vetting him for real. One couple at my caucus supported him because they met at him at a cafe in Polk City and liked him. He capitalized on Newt’s slide and the fact that Bachmann and Perry could never get a game of jacks going. Santorum is personable and he worked hard, but that doesn’t mean he is presidential.    

  • nj

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57350781-503544/the-overhyped-unrepresentative-iowa-caucuses/

    The overhyped, unrepresentative Iowa caucuses A total of 119,188 people participated in the 2008 Iowa Republican caucuses. That’s about 20 percent of Iowa’s registered Republicans, 4 percent of the population of Iowa, and .04 percent of the total U.S. population; it’s also less than half as many people as fit into the seats at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. 

    • Modavations

      I love Leftists telling Republicans who to vote for

      • nj

        I love trolls posting glib deflection and distraction.

        Feel the love…

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

          You got it. And “Modavations” is one gold plated TROLL.

          • Modavations

            Arn’t you the guy who wanted to hang Bush and Cheney without a trial.Temper,temper,young man

  • TomK in Boston

    Raving far right loonies trying to out-insane each other; a serial liar, chameleon, and representative of the financial predators that crashed the economy; one decent, appealing, competent man who is nevertheless too conservative for me, and is clearly not crazy enough for the current version of the GoP.

    If you want a traditional centrist republican, Obama and Huntsman are your choices!

    ps, OT – I’m pleased that BHO is going to recess appoint Cordray to the CFPB, and maybe others, arguing that GoP ploy of keeping congress “in session” with sham sessions is a…..sham. The GoP will howl like stuck pigs, of course. I wish BHO had used his clear constitutional power and adjourned them:

     “The President may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper.”

    • Terry Tree Tree

      There’s still time!

    • Modavations

      Why doesn’t the President declare himsellf dictator?

      • Anonymous

        Oh for the love of mud pies, you really are a maroon.

  • Hennorama

    OK, so Iowa evangelicals get organized enough to make Santorum, a religious zealot, temporarily relevant.  Bachmann, the greatest clown, flames out then drops out.  Perry, the Peter Principle candidate, goes home to pray and think about his future, (Hint – it’s time to drop out and save any dignity you may have left, Rick.)  Paul, the Ayn Rand disciple, also becomes slightly more important but still has no chance.  Gingrich, the self-interested self-important blowhard, cries that everyone is against him and disingenuously says he won’t run attack ads because of his higher principles when everyone knows he doesn’t have the money to do so.  Apparently Iowa caucus voters don’t like a whiner.  Huntsman doesn’t play, instead focusing on New Hampshire, but he knows in his heart there’s no room in the field for a 2nd rich Mormon.

    58 Iowans even voted for Herman “with a lot of prayer and soul searching, I am suspending my presidential campaign” Cain!  What were THEY thinking?

    And so, Romney “wins” by not losing.  Republicans have been saying loud and clear that they don’t really want him as their candidate.  However, they will wind up with him by default as the others self-implode and their money dries up.

    Willard Mitt Romney, who won’t use his actual first name for obvious reasons, is an unexciting if competent candidate.  Very good as a corporate CEO perhaps, but not viable as the leader of the world’s only superpower.  Does anyone REALLY know what he believes?

    Good luck, Republicans – you’re gonna need it!

    • TomK in Boston

      Willard makes me wanna puke. I sill remember him saying “Abortion should be safe and legal”, and no matter how fast he spins, Romneycare was the basis for the dreaded Obamacare. It’s actually his greatest accomplishment, but in GoP Cuckooland he has to run away from it at warp speed. I like huntsman’s ad that ends with “NH is the state that can stop the chameleon”.

      Worst is to hear him claim his business experience as an asset. What a joke, he never created a product or a piece of intellectual property in his life. He was a financial predator, an LBO guy, with an elite family easing him into a privileged career, the new American way. It’s amazing to think that, after an economic crash caused by the financial scam artists, a career in financial con games would be considered desirable. If he’s a “businessman”, so are Ken Lay and Angelo Mozillo and Bernie Madoff. They are no worse than Willard – actually I think Madoff is more honest.

      • Modavations

        Just how many people does Staples employ?How would you categorize Dem.Senator and Governor Corzine?How ’bout Rubin,how bout Frank Raines(took 80 million in commissions from Fannie),how bout….

        • Terry Tree Tree

          Staples was exposed back in the 80′s for buying products made in prison, by ‘political prisoners’.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            With the Staples name on them!

    • Modavations

      Isn’t Baracks name,Barry sotero.My guppy could beat Pres.Obama,by the way

      • Still Here

        I knew BHO was all BS.

        • Terry Tree Tree

                    NOT ‘W’?

      • Hennorama

        Wow.  No, Pres. Obama’s name is NOT “Barry sotero” or the other versions going around on the web.  It’s interesting to see this phony stuff rear its ugly head in the oddest places.

        By the way, ironically, the “evidence” that is often cited for Pres. Obama having an alternate name (an Indonesian school registration form filed by his stepfather Lolo Soetoro), states that his place of birth was Honolulu.  So much for the “birthers.” 

        Wait … I guess the “coverup” began waaaay back then, in the early 1970s, right?

        Sheesh.

        There’s no dispute that Romney’s birth name is as I stated, and it’s obvious why he doesn’t use it – most people would associate it with the character from the movies named Willard, who is a sort of social misfit with a strange liking for rats.  Not a good association for a politician.

        I haven’t made up a new name for Mr. Romney, just stated that he doesn’t use his actual first name.

        Facts are facts, unless you don’t like them, I guess.

        • Modavations

          Barack was Barry until 1980

          • Hennorama

            Wow, again.  OK, so now you use ANOTHER name rather than defend your original comment or refute my response?  How bold.

            No one disputes that Pres. Obama used the nickname “Barry” and then reverted to using his given name Barack.  So what?  Is there something sinister at play here, or perhaps a man coming of age and returning to his roots?  Who knows?  Doesn’t matter.

            However, he does use his ACTUAL name, even though it may hurt him politically.

            It doesn’t REALLY matter that Mr. Romney doesn’t use his actual name, but there’s no dispute that he does not.  It easy to see why he would prefer “Mitt” over “Willard.”

            Regardless of the name he chooses to use, he is still an unexciting candidate who has changd his positions on significant issues multiple times.  It’s no wonder Republican voters are not any more enthused about his candidacy than they were 4 years ago.

          • Modavations

            Sure there is.He wanted to prove his black bonifides.Remember the LA TIMES article about him not being authentic.My other theory is his Marxist Professors talked him into it.

          • Still Here

            Why didn’t he go by Hussein?  Or Osama for that matter.  The guy is a complete fraud and I’m no longer proud of my country!

          • Terry Tree Tree

            ‘Ike’, ‘Dick Nixon, Teddy, ‘Bill’, and the list goes on, of Presidents that didn’t use their full first name! 
               Your point?

          • TFRX

            Way to class up the joint, calling him “Osama”.

          • Fredlinskip

            So you were proud under W, I suppose?
             
            The integrity of a person depends on their name then?

      • Roy Mac

        Your guppy’s name is …?  Oh, I get it–your guppy got more votes than the President last night.  Batsh*t Bachman is your guppy?  You must be SO proud!

        • Modavations

          My vote would be for Romney,unless a white knight rides in.Any of my Neon Tetras could beat Pres.Obama.In my opinion the worst President ever.All the college kids that voted him in are now Rand Paul guys.When asked,they say,Obama who?

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

            And you have surveyed all the college kids who voted for Obama?  You have way too much time on your hands.

          • Terry Tree Tree

            Mercury and lead ingested in his childhood says he did?

          • Fredlinskip

            Got any angle fish?

            Glad you have your hand right on the pulse of the younger generation.

  • Modavations

    Government is a spin off of affluence,not the other way around

  • Still Here

    Scorched earth to get Cordray through seems irrational, must be political.

    • John in Amherst

      Thre rational approach, i.e.: appointing someone who nearly everyone concedes is qualified, (only to have him rejected because the GOP doesn’t like “structure” of the agency), did not work.   The GOP was trying extort changes to the framework of the agency ex post facto.  They lost the battle when the agency was created, and then decided to take all their marbles and go home when the president tried to get the agency up and running.   

      • Modavations

        We have laws and watch dogs up the yin yang.What purpose is this agency?Perhaps some due dilligence would have sufficed.Are you aware that Cox’s daughter(he was the SEC watchdog)married Maddoff’s son.What was the purpose of the Ed.Dept,the Energy Dept?They do not do their jobs.

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

          The standard right wing Republican nut reply.

          • Modavations

            If you were king,would you hang me too.

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

            No, if I were king I would make you listen to yourself babble on endlessly. That is about the most cruel torture available. haha

          • Anonymous

            Yep, and burn your village to the ground. Good think we had a revolution to get rid of such tyrants. We now have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. Oh wait, you think the Constitution is meaningless.
            If only I were king…

        • Anonymous

           So you side with the companies that want to fleece people of their hard earned money because that’s what this new agency is going to do, regulate companies in the financial sector that do not come under the banking regulations. Interesting take on the world.

          • TweedleDumDee

            The ends don’t justify the means. Just that simple.  Our society would crumble into anarchic chaos if we lived by the creed that the ends justify the means.  It doesn’t matter if the ends are defined as “good” by you or me.

      • Still Here

        Seems more like pandering to the base.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

      Political appointments are “political”? How shocking.

      • Modavations

        It’s going to court.The Senate was technically in session

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

          I wonder what is wrong in your head that makes you think you have to reply to everyone? In reality, nobody cares what you think you know.

          • Modavations

            I pay for NPR.Do I offend you?.Do I have a right to post?You speak like a fascist.Arn’t you the guy who wanted to hang Bush and Cheney without a trial.That after Gregg posted a blockbuster blurb on Democrat opinions of Hussein,prior to the invasion.Does Free Speech scare you.Just don’t read me!!!!

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

            No, you scare me……

          • Anonymous

            I’m trying to stop, but your nonsense is so amusing.

      • Still Here

        Are there no intelligent democruds here?

        • Modavations

          Please don’t stoop to the immature name calling.

  • ElfmanNW

    What was essentially a three way tie really illustrates the three main
    constituent groups in the Republican Party. Each has it most important
    priority, though there is a great overlap among them.

    You have the fundamentalist Christian wing that wants government from
    the Bible, but from the Old Testament. None of the “rich man . . . eye
    of needle,” nor “sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you
    will have treasure in heaven” stuff. More interest there in selective
    quotes about who is going to hell. They are very comfortable with a God
    helps those who help themselves [to everything they can get]
    philosophy. So you have Santorum

    Then there is the libertarian wing, but there one has more of the
    paleo-libertarian philosophy. The Bible (again Old Testament) in one
    hand and Atlas Shrugged in the other. Mix that with some white
    Christian Nativism and you have Ron Paul.

    Then there is the wing that is there to look out for the interests of
    the wealthy and corporations. This is the real power in the party and
    is why Romney will prevail if this indeed turns into a three way race.

    • Modavations

      Most of the guys I hang with are Ayn Rand accolytes(20% are socialist-communist).Not a religious bone amongst us!!!!

  • Phil

    How can you keep promoting the myth that what Santorum represents is “conservatism” ?  The Republican Party has degenerated into a mob intent on using the power of government to push their religious and anti-scientific views on the rest of us.  Barry Goldwater must be turning in his grave.

    • Still Here

      Yeah I prefer the science of corn-based ethanol and Plan B.  There are no scientists here.

      • Anonymous

        Which is not cost effective outside of the area it is grown. You should read more.

        • Still Here

          It’s not cost, or environmentally, effective in the area it’s grown but Dicky Durbin don’t care.

      • TFRX

        Pathetic attack on Plan B, bub.

        I’ve got a hunch that you’re one unplanned pregnancy away from being secretly pro-choice.

      • Terry Tree Tree

        A lot of rapists would vote against Plan B.  They want to continue their line of rapists, without taking ANY responsiblity for the children!
           Same for guys that ‘will love you forever, if you let me’, then prove that forever ends that night, along with their responsibility for their offspring!

  • ljlmusic

    I hear talk about Romney being a strong business leader, and that people will vote for him because of that. My question is … we already HAD a Republican MBA in the White House with George W. Bush with disastrous consequences for our country. Why would we want to try that again? I certainly don’t want a repeat of those dark years.

    • Still Here

      We tried the naive community organizer, and he screwed the pooch trying to make us socialist. 

      • nj

        “Trying to make us socialist”

        One can always spot the Fox So-called News adherents.

        • Modavations

          One can always spot an MSNBC viewer.Hate speech and name calling

      • Anonymous

        Well that’s an interesting point of view.
        Lets parse this in a way that maybe you can understand. If president Obama is a socialist does that not make the likes of Mitt Romney a fascist.
        By your skewed reasoning it would.

      • TFRX

        Naive, yet tyrannical, all at the same time. Love your media’s cognitive dissonance; how do you keep it in one brain?

        • notafeminista

          The two conditions are not mutually exclusive.  Being naive is not being meek in the slightest.

  • Mitchell

    It’s an embarrassment to the entire country that these people are candidates for president. As a collective they present to us the very worst traits of any politician; ignorance, hate mongering, fake patriotism, corporate greed, intolerance, dogmatic religiosity, and libertarian lunacy. Having to listen to the non-stop media coverage of this pathetic bunch is as much a travesty to the overall health of our society as watching the worst reality tv show.

    • Still Here

      Interestingly, you’ve got all those traits in one non-stop fun-loving package.

      • Terry Tree Tree

        You know Mitchell that well?  One Republican?  Other than ‘W’, and his ilk?

    • notafeminista

      How right you are..having to listen to a point of view you don’t agree with is absolutely objectionable. 

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

        Prey for us then. You and the conga line of Republican clowns are all cut from the same cloth of nonsense.

        PS – that was no spelling error.

        • Modavations

          I’ve never seen someone so afraid of free speech.

          • Modavations

             I takethat back.There’s Jeffe88,Terry Tree Tree,and NJ

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

      On target. Not only is it an embarassment it is astounding that these liars and hypocrites can be taken as serious candidates. In better times, now gone, these fools (and their even more foolish supporters) would be laughed out of the room. As they so richly deserve.

  • Gormloch

    WTF??? As soon as Taylor, a young voter, talks about how she cant vote for Obama because he signs the NDAA you FREAKIN’ CUT HER OFF and end the show with three minutes of music!

    Fascist so-and-sos!

    • Still Here

      He’s got the power to assassinate Americans now.  More of us are likely to be careful of what we say as a result.

      • TFRX

        Ever get locked out of “town hall” for your t-shirt or bumpersticker?

        Thought not.

        You’re so paranoid I’d love to see what would live up to your fears.

        • Still Here

          I don’t wear t-shirts and won’t sully my car with a bumpersticker, but with the threat of assassinations and constant video-camera and voice communication surveillance, I’d say the paranoia is completely justified.

        • notafeminista

          Interesting response.  Do you favor the Patriot Act?

    • Terry Tree Tree

      Although I do not like someone being cut off, this episode IS about the Republicans and Iowa. 
         I hope Taylor will be able to comment later, on a show about President Obama, Democrats, or a pertinent subject.

      • TFRX

        Yeah, “fascist” is too extreme a word here. And I don’t recall more music being played on the “out” (as we penny-ante-college-DJs used to call it) for this hour than typical.

  • http://www.facebook.com/diepiriye Diepiriye Sungumote Kuku-Siemo

    The take-home message from the Iowa caucus is as clear as the Gulf is cloudy.

    The Republican heavy weights are waiting this one out. The president’s base is firm, despite the media attention towards people’s movements this year alone. In fact, they know – some implicitly and others explicitly – that America’s work of electing Barack Obama is not nearly done, some of which can only come with a full eight years. I suspect that even Gen. Collin Powell knows that. The Barack Obama that America elected in 2008 is more like a second-term president. It is only with a second-term that Americans begin to unite under leadership- he’s tested and we’re tested. Then we can actually see policy unfold, despite the tirades of ‘the party of NO’. Since we refused to stand up and demand greatness of presidential leadership.It is only recently that we see any genuine attempts to change the political conversation, as exemplified by the Occupy Movements (and early aspects of the TEA party). The Occupy Movement followed the Arab Spring, which may meet another rainy season if the violence continues in places like Syria and still in Egypt. None of the current Republican candidacy have demonstrated the ability to even hold a public dialogue about how any of these matters are inter-related and what that has to do with the American people. Like it or not, the world is a bit complex – not complicated, but full of diverse ways of life, which requires dialogue to resolve inevitable conflicts. The Republican side uses sloganeering to stigmatize so-called ‘Liberals’ as having some agenda that likens itself to land-grabbing or some other odd socialist scare propaganda. That’s odd, too, considering the very real grabbing of natural resources to the detriment of public health and public wealth. Petroleum and war are seemingly inevitably intertwined in that petrol-based/commodities unfettered capitalist economy, which is as clear as the Gulf is cloudy! No, all of these candidates, with all due respect to their careers, have demonstrated a mere ability to dumb-down this historical moment into policy slogans, whereas the Obama/Biden ’08 campaign’s ‘Change We Can Believe in’ galvanized masses. Just think if Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 plan, or Michelle Bachman’s slogan to make “Barack Obama a one-term president!” She full-well understands the sadistic mongering  Look at this Republicans: $12 is the minimum wage in England, but the first-year college student working at the local Walmart in Alabama is happy with her $7.70 per hour. With social media, this young lady can know that more easily, and see past  the ‘Obamacare’ slight used to diss the sorts of healthcare systems enjoyed in many parts of the world, especially England, where I currently reside received government coverage within days of moving there. I was shocked at the level of coverage I received while spending junior year abroad in France years ago. No, America is not really THE best at all we claim, which is sad because only of polarization holds us back.

  • leftofcenter

    Everybody else is predicting. So I’ll do the same. Either I’m right and should then have my own network news show. Or, whatever.

    Romney (a megamillionaire) keeps trying to pass himself off as “an unemployed regular person like many of you”. While that’s laughable, he will get the nomination. Who’s going to drop out after Bachmann? Perry and Huntsman. This will leave the MSM’s “Dream Lineup” of Romney, Gingrich and Paul.

    Paul and Santorum are just too extreme. If they’re not, then why didn’t either one win in Iowa? The reason is because they have no chance of winning against Obama. Gingrich has admitted he has no chance of getting nominated. This means he lives to destroy Romney. The neocons want the most centrist candidate possible. Answer: Romney.

    The election will then be Romney vs. Obama. The Conservative Centrist Mormon (yes, it will be an issue) Businessman vs. Obama the (fill in the blank with various racist and other idiotic labels).

    If I’m right On Point staff, you know where to find me.

  • notafeminista

    To JasonA below:  Fine, I’m delusional.  Outline for us the exactly the positions of Democratic politicians in office prior to the invasion and how and why they arrived at those positions. 

    Then decide whether they were lying before the invasion or were they lying after…or did they in fact (the party of the open-minded,enlightened and educated) get hoodwinked by a guy they know…they know in all their lefty little hearts is not as smart as they?

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

      You are no high school teacher (I hope), handing out assignments, and I am not your student. So please save your commands for those poor people or creatures you have command authorty over. I pity them.

      You assume a great deal(all incorrectly), and you know the old line about ASSuming, right? My obversation is that you are the case in point for that saying.

      I am a life long INDEPENDENT and find both “parties” to be corrupt to the core. Hence I am not “hoodwinked” by anyone. Suggest that you try to think independently too…FOR ONCE.

      • Modavations

        You’re so left,Pol Pot is blushing.I say hang her

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

          Are you high, drunk, or both?

          • Modavations

            Only Fri. and Sat.But your retort is consistent,as well as the immature quip about Thorazine.Rarely do I see someone who gets so frightened by a difference of opinion.To say that Bush and Cheney should be hung without a trial is totalitarian!!!!!To avoid the fact that Hillary,Pelosi,J.Kerry and B.Kerry were all for war,shows intellectual malfeasance

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

            A Bush/ Cheney hanging would be called JUSTICE for the crimes they have committed as well as the damage their strategic blunder, of historic proportions, has done to the Nation.. Too bad the loss of the lives of 5,000 young Americans does not bother you. Sleep well as you have their blood on YOUR hands too by supporting these 2 criminals of the ages. SHAME on you!

          • Modavations

            This is justice in Pol Pots Cambodia,not in the US.You offend

      • Modavations

        You never answered her question!!!!What do you feel about the Dems.who were hysterical to go to war

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

          Dude, you need more (or better) meds. Try Thorazine.

      • notafeminista

        All of which begs the question. Did the Democrats lie…or did they get fooled.  Those are the choices.

        You might well be an independent, as of 3 years ago – I’d be disappointed in the Democrats too.  Who knew the party of the smart people would end up being so breathtakingly incompetent?

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

          Please repeat after me:  Both parties are corrupt to the core and are intellectually and morally bankrupt. Both parties are wholly owned by corporate money. Both parties exist for two reasons:  1) To serve their own interests first. and 2) To serve the interests of their corporate masters next.

          Both parties pretend to represent the citizens, when in fact the opposite is true.

          The government is completely broken and dysfunctional. By any measure the US is in decline, except 2: corporate profits and CEO compensation.

          • notafeminista

            You didn’t answer the question.

          • notafeminista

            Ok, the Democrats were/are corrupt.  You get no argument from me on that.  Are they also stupid or are they liars?

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