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Murdoch’s Empire Under Siege

A phone hacking scandal shakes the Murdoch empire. We’ll look to the future of News Corp.

News about Rupert Murdoch is displayed on the Fox News ticker at building which houses the News Corp. headquarters in New York. (AP)

News about Rupert Murdoch is displayed on the Fox News ticker at building which houses the News Corp. headquarters in New York. (AP)

Mayhem outside the British Parliament today as global media tycoon Rupert Murdoch arrived for questioning.

A huge mob of photographers shouting, pushing, clacking away. The elder Murdoch in his Range Rover. Scandal all around. Treated like Voldemort stepping into Hogwarts.

Murdoch’s News Corp. holdings in the UK are at the heart of an uproar over widespread phone hacking, police corruption, compromised politicians. The sense of a nation compromised, corrupted. What does it mean for News Corp. worldwide?

This hour On Point: Murdoch’s empire now, from The Times of London to Fox News.

-Tom Ashbrook

Guests:

Sarah Ellison, author of “War at the Wall Street Journal: Inside the Struggle to Control an American Business Empire.” Contributing editor at Vanity Fair, where her story on the News Corp phone-hacking scandal — “The Dark Arts” — appeared in the June issue.

Dean Starkman, runs “The Audit” the business media blog for the Columbia Journalism Review.

John Gapper, associate editor and chief business commentator for the Financial Times.



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  • Chap

    I hope Rupert Murdoch keeps hearing a voice whispering “Rosebud” in his ear.  His persona has grown to mirror the fictional Charles Foster Kane in it’s manipulation of people for profit.  I hope he meets with the same lonely demise as Orson Welles’ famous character from the film.

    • ThresherK

      Didn’t Rupert skip the early part? I remember in Citizen Kane that our protagonist had some promise to be something other than a megalomaniacal drain on society.

      • GLH

        “You provide the war: I’ll provide the support.”

  • RMGuy

    There is something about “living by the sword” going on here.

    • GLH

      scissors, rock, paper

  • Michael

    Heard 9/11 victims could be on that list.

    Good thing the Saudi Prince(second biggest shareholder in NewsCorp besides Murdoch) is keeping his money in Newscorp.

    The irony of right-wingers who are fearful of Muslim taking over American and our news are the ones enriching a prince from the most religiously intolerant Muslim society.

    • GLH

      Can a good Muslim be a robber baron?

  • Michael

    Just a taste of what Murdoch Empire has been up to in the U.S.

    http://foxattacks.com/

    Fox Attacks black people
    http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/?p=572

    Fox Attacks Homeless Vets
    http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/?p=27990

    FOX ATTACKS! The Environment
    http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/?p=5287

    or check out outfoxed
    http://www.outfoxed.org/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvSLNSn5swk

  • Hail Murdoch

    All these blow away and Murdoch will prevail!! After all politicians on both side of Atlantic were and are bedfellows of this Octogenarian!!!

    • GLH

      That’s what they’d like you to believe.

  • Michael

    Better version,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok01hJHvobM

    It be interesting to hear what Sarah Ellison has to say.

    Also like Dean Starkman page link,

    “There are two kinds of journalists in the world, and really only two. There
    are the people who go out and get the stories, and there are the people who
    talk about them.”

    As well

    “The good story, I believe, is investigative, at least in the sense that
    it looks behind an idealized façade to reveal the reality beneath.
    Tension and surprise result from the gap between the purported reality – the
    aura projected by, say, a judge’s robes or a corporate PR operation – and
    reality itself – the chief justice skimming a slush fund or an executive
    diverting assets to companies he controls while his subordinate chest-bumps
    an uncooperative director.”

    This might be a really interesting show.

    • Ellen Dibble

      I think news is much more about managing the ferment of citizen discovery and diffusion, much more than 15 years ago.  My e-mail brings me daily troves in a few fields that have not passed through the sifters of editorial staffs, and I think it’s only rational to look at broad and interacting reality counterbalanced with Unholy Writ of such as Fox.  If you google “Murdoch lawsuits settlements” as I did, recalling some BBC report a percent like a third that his empire spends on squelching leaks OUT OF there, about various illegalities, and you may think well, this is what corporations (etc) do do. As the reporter was saying, Murdoch, like anyone with money, could sue almost anyone about anything, and can easily budget a large amount to “control” the situation.  By the google search you’ll find in Bloomberg news, article by Hutton and Morales today, James “Murdoch, 38, faces questions over his approval of at least 2 million pounds ($3.2 million) to settle privacy cases filed by hacking victims and whether they were designed to conceal wrongdoing at the News of the World tabloid News Corp. …Some of those payments … were conditional on non-disclosure agreements.”              Considering the USA laws affect a USA corporation abroad, wow.  And considering what we know about lobbying and campaign “reform,” wow.   The timeline goes:  (1) Murdoch empire falls; (2) a more normative election follows; (3) a budget that bends less toward empires like his finally passes.

      • Michael

        He already loss his bid to take over sky news(which he intended it to be the fox news of the UK). Though Murdoch could sue anyone the biggest threat or road block for him is now any relationships he had with both the Tories or Labour will be looked into by other newspapers and the public(which didn’t happen before). There was a reporter for the Guardian on bbc news last night talking about the connection and power the paper had with both politicians and the police department and how now any connection to Murdoch paper has become toxic.  As well it was also reported Rebekah Brooks error when arrested for questioning giving more doubt this will be dismissed as once thought. The Sun paper which seemed it would take over the duties of the World of the News is now looking to be taken down as well and Australia is now investigating Murdoch’s paper there.

  • Fredlinskip

        If it wasn’t for public funded BBC News, I wonder if this story would have gotten the attention it has. I doubt we’ll see the same amount kind of coverage over here.     I see they killed the messenger (whistleblower)- that should send fair warning to those with enough bravado to speak truth to power.

    • Ellen Dibble

      From Sam Reeves, AFP hosted news, 2 hours ago:  “Just a week ago, Hoare made new allegations in The New York Times about journalists making payments to the police, and about the use of ‘pinging’, the illegal use of mobile phone signals to locate people.” – 
      So the man would not give up.  He’s been  blowing the whistle for years, saying the culture was to get the hot story at whatever cost, in whatever way, implicating people and institutions this way and that.  Pass the lager.  
           But he was fired for  problems that I would bet caused his untimely death:”Hoare, whose drink and drug problems led to his dismissal from the News of the World in 2005, was found dead in his home in Watford, north of London, the local Hertfordshire Police force said late Monday.”
      Was he being pressured to actually man-up and give evidence?  “Hoare’s claims were passed to Scotland Yard last year but they said he declined to give evidence. Coulson has since been arrested and bailed over allegations of phone-hacking and bribing police.”

      • Guest-22

        How convenient that he happened to die just this week. What a coincidence. And the police don’t suspect foul play?! Why not? The plot thickens.

  • Terry Tree Tree

    Murdochs, if NoT guilty, would have FIRED Ms. Brooks, and any others with probable involvement!  Same for cops and politicians. 

    • GLH

      Fire everybody and start over at a level Ron Paul could conceptualize. Ugh! Newspaper rock very pretty! Huh huh, and plenty infotaining!

  • Anonymous

    I saw this movie before. The Rupert Murdoch character was played by Jonathan Pryce, and it was a James Bond film called “Tomorrow Never Dies”:

    “Media baron Elliot Carver (Jonathan Pryce), head of the Carver Media Group Network (CMGN), begins his plans to use the encoder to provoke war between China and the United Kingdom. As the existing Chinese leadership is not receptive to giving Carver Media Group Network exclusive broadcast rights in their country, Carver wants to use a war to eliminate them in favor of politicians more supportive to his plans.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow_Never_Dies

    What the producers didn’t foresee was that it would be much easier, and cheaper, to   get broadcast rights in the UK by simply hacking the phones of some key government figures in order to coerce them and then buying off Scotland Yard with some freebies at a health spa.

    Not as cinematic as WWIII, perhaps, but much more cost effective.

    • GLH

      And it was Rupert humping the redheaded femme fatale. “Like a daughter”, now that’s depravity!

      • GLH

        “Our Miss Brooks”, remember that?

  • Zing

    This whole story is nonsense and will be gone by the weekend.  No one really cares other than the jealous lefty media.  I’d rather hear about Obama throwing Elizabeth Warren under the bus to please Wall Street.

    • Michael

      No one except the Tories, Labor, Murdoch himself(sunk the sky news bid) possible 9/11 Victims, the FBI, Peter King,Fox news itself,

      Just yesterday it was evaluated to a new level with the mysterious death of one of the papers leakers. 

      • Thinknaboutit

        Mysteriously unsuspicious even.  >.<

        • GLH

          Welcomed, precisely scheduled, carried off without a hitch by Seal Team Six…..

    • nj

      “lefty media”

      If only…

      • ThresherK

        Yeah, another anarchist/libertarian/non-conformist shows their stripes.

    • GLH

      While Lizzy was under the bus she found a lethal fault in the brakes and measured the emissions as above EPA limits. Warren for President in 2012. Obama can retire on LBJ’s ranch. Maybe he and W can have a chainsaw deathmatch on Fox.

  • Mark S.

    I hope this individual’s entire “empire” collapses in ruins.  He is nothing more than the Minister of Propaganda for the extreme right wing.  Since I consider everything they stand for to be pathologically evil, that would be a very good thing indeed…especially that ideological cancer masquerading as a news channel.

    • Anonymous

      To the extent that honest journalism is a moral endeavor, your categorization of Murdoch’s propaganda as evil is particularly apt.  Indeed, dishonest journalism – which I would contend is far more prevalent in the right-leaning media – is a disgrace to the craft, and a poison to a democratic society.

      • Mark S.

        Murdoch and the rest of the lying bastards at Fox and on hate radio have turned this country into the corrupt, putrefactive pile of crap it is.  I love the term “American exceptionalism.”  As far as I can tell, the only thing exceptional about America today is its empty, self-righteous arrogance, short-sighted overreach into foreign entanglements in which we have no business, and smug, know-nothing, redneck stupidity.  And Fox has had a great deal to do with it.  Were I younger and had more resources, I would be someplace else now.  Unfortunately, I’m stuck here with all the other people who are going to suffer from the malignant, neo-fascist, redneck political culture that is in its ascendancy.  A word of caution to the insane Right trying to jackboot what’s left of this asylum.  We will not take your crap forever, and you are not the only ones ready, willing and able (yes, I own one) to defend your “liberty.”

  • Markus

    I assumed when this story broke that 90% of the media would be salivating at the prospect of going after one of the few large media outlets that didn’t tilt left. It’s also interesting how quickly this same media is to extend this story to an indictment of all of Murdoch’s companies.
     
    My interest is how much this kind of thing is done by others? That wouldn’t justify it, but like doping in the bike races, it would indicate that, sadly, this has become what is required in at least the tabloid-style outlets.

    • Vtcheflw

      If you think the midia is slanted left you are sadly misinformed.  No mainstream madia outlets, including NPR, give a perspective that truly comes from the left.  The fact the you believe that they do is just one example of how the right wing media mechine feeds our heads with false information.

      • Anonymous

        Next you’re going to claim there’s evidence for evolution…

        • GLH

          There’s none against it.

          • Anonymous

            Well, yeah.  But a lot of people can’t wrap their head around that.  And probably never will.

    • Michael

      So right,

       Fox News would never do such a thing,…..cough Juan
      Williams……cough Learn to speak teabag……..cough…..Ron Schiller
      string….

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/mar/09/npr-usa

      Fox took the moral high ground in all cases and never indicted NPR for the actions of a few.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/mar/09/npr-usa

      • ThresherK

        “Fox” and “moral high ground”. Same sentence.

        Wow, you’re making this toooooo easy.

        • ThresherK

          I’m genuinely sorry, I didn’t realize you were kidding. Poe’s law and all that. The Guardian links should have tipped me off.

    • Thinknaboutit

      Funny, I assumed when this story broke that the mostly right-wing media and politicians would leap to the defense of Rupert in trying to limit any investigation.  I guess we were both wrong?

    • nj

      “…one of the few large media outlets that didn’t tilt left.”
      Ha, ha, Markus is being ironic. Oh, wait, he really believe it.

    • A.H.

      Are you sure you don’t mean “one of the few large media outlets that didn’t tilt extremest right-wing”.

  • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

    Rupert Murdoch is the bad side of Investigative Journalism. Too bad he changed the structure of the Media but destroyed the meaning of honest journalism.

    • Thinknaboutit

      He brought the tabloids to television.

      • Guest-22

        And he put his millions into right-wing political campaigns. Legal contributions? Yes? Maybe? I hope NPR follows the money–Murdoch’s companies’ contributions may have bought many an election, particularly where his media outlets control local markets.

    • William

      Is Dan Rather the “good side”?

      • ThresherK

        No, all those would-be journos who served Ronald Reagan on bended knee were the “good side”.

  • Cory

    Forget about targeting Fox.  Just remember the capitalist golden rule.  Too popular with too many Americans, makes too much money and has too many sponsors.  Fox is darn near bulletproof.

    Fox dies when 75% of Americans realize it doesn’t really represent them or their interests, not any sooner.

    • Ellen Dibble

      But who taught us to vote?  We vote for the best dancer, we vote for the most talented, the “idol,” and we vote for what we like best, bleep, bleep.  We make us into that lowest common denominator that becomes a datum in a computer that allows us to be manipulated at the polls and vote as predicted, probably for someone who is cock-sure and seems to float on air, successful and without even trying.  Or maybe someone who is most vicious in in-fighting?  If you can identify that, and polling can identify you, then the government of the people, by the people, and for the people will come up with sugared oatios as our purchase, and a choice of Pepsi or Coca-Cola, red or blue, thanks to persistent teaching of us to choose like that by the Media.

      • Cory

        The question is then at what point does that change come?  I personally believe it is somewhere along the road to American decline and ruin.  Somewhere along the way, it will become impossible to mask the malaise of so many.  I just don’t know when that will be.

        • GLH

          How many 80 day hunger striking California inmates are still staring at the idiot box as their bodies and minds waste away? In “the shoe” it’s like “the Outer Limits”. We control the vertical: We control the horzontal. Rupert can focus your attention to perfection or cloud it in a hazy fog. We never return control of your personal device… to you.

  • William

    He does nothing different than CBS/NBC/ABC, NYTimes etc…almost every major news organization will do anything to get a ‘good story”.

    • ThresherK

      Are you still pretending to be an honorable (what we used to call) conservative, or a libertarian?

      Cos you need some work on your cover.

      • GLH

        William has found a new career. He will spend his remaining days bringing down MSM  so that every little blogger will become their own Viacom Global. Reminds me of Alex Jones getting naked at Bohemian Grove.

    • A.H.

      Step up to the plate and deliver the hard evidence. I think you have just elevated your well-used and beloved personal excuse to hard facts. Wow, don’t we wish all judges and juries and law enforcers operated this way?

      And criminal activity is just as criminal if lots of other people break those laws. So, if half the world population murdered the other half, that would make it all right? But if one person murdered another person, then it would be illegal?

  • John in Amherst

    This is another Baroque example example of hypocrisy on the political right.  While preaching adherence to rules of law and fealty to authority, there are those on the right who adopt Machiavelli’s motto, the ends justify the means.  Laws should apply, and harshly, to everyone – except zealots who are advancing conservative positions & ideology.  (A catalogue of these episodes would include Watergate, Iran-Contra, Gulf war II, etc., etc.)
     
    And now the prime whistleblower who began dragging this sordid affair into the light is found dead, and Scotland Yard, gravely embarrassed by the scandal, declares the death “not suspicious”  Really??  The fact the guy is dead is suspicious.
     
     What is perhaps more sinister than the tabloid/paparazzi tactic of phone hacking is how Murdoch has used his influence to sway politicians and public opinion by coarsening political discourse, dumbing down debate, substituting conservative editorial comment for facts and news.  The agenda of the right facilitates Murdoch’s becoming richer and more powerful, and Murdoch’s power to sway opinion and twist arms through threats and extortion enhances the position of the right.  It’s an invidious symbiosis which may not be illegal per se, but invites extra-legal behavior and is poisoning our democracy. 

    • Lee

      I think what they mean by “not suspicious” is that he wasn’t murdered.

      • Yar

        Or, murdered by the cops.

      • John in Amherst

        The fact he died on the eve of the investigation sure is convenient for those who would like dark secrets to remain secrets.  Accidental OD’s are easily faked.

  • Ellen Dibble

    Watch the testimony right now of the British Home Affairs Committee, Police person John Yates now, live at http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/, right now.

  • Lee

    Is this very different from wikileaks? I understand hacking celebrity voicemails isn’t exactly war and peace, but  you don’t need wikileaks to demonstrate that we had no business in Iraq and you don’t need News Corp to know the secrets of the stars. Or you have the case of the Rutgers student. I would argue all three cases are about humiliation and power, no matter what the motive, because they take away the element of choice of those being exposed.

    • Lee

      And the sudden death of one of the News Corps whistle blowers (a type o f”good leaker”) adds another dimension.

      Can’t people confront each other face to face?  Why don’t they?  If you are going to commit suicide anyway, then why leak?

      • GLH

        Why did Avon Barksdale (&Stringer Bell?) whack Mr. Gant in the second episode of “The Wire”? (Angelo had already beaten the wrap.)

    • Anonymous

      You are aware that they hacked the former Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s phone. In this country that’s an act of sedition. There is a difference here.

      • Lee

        You really think that it is substantially different from wikileaks? I am not a lawyer, but others have called the act treasonous.

        What is worse treason or sedition? 

        • Anonymous

          I’m not sure if what it is you are trying to do here. Murdoch’ paper broke British laws, it has nothing to do with our laws in this regard.
          If someone from the NY Times for instance hacked into Presidents Obama’ cell phone that’s an act of sedition and maybe treason under US law. Does this spell it out for you? The Murdoch organization broke British laws. That’s what this show is about is it not?

          • Ellen Dibble

            I heard that because Murdoch is an American citizen, American laws apply.  I can’t remember exactly, but the British corporate presence is somehow under the thumb of our legal system, and it is interesting that American press coverage isn’t focusing on that. It reminds me of the many years it’s taking the American justice system to figure out what if anything was done criminally by the big banks in the leadup to the crash.  The American justice system seems to be zeroing in on the media empire/s, and not too surprisingly, the media is touching on it lightly.

          • Anonymous

            “I heard that because Murdoch is an American citizen, American laws apply.” I’m not sure where you read or heard this but this just not true at all. Being an American does not mean you have the rights of our legal system when you are overseas. If Murdoch broke British laws he will be subject to them not ours. If Murdoch’ news corporation broke laws in this country then it’s safe to say he’s in trouble on both sides of the pond. However what is going on today in the Houses of Parliament is all about British law.

            If you don’t believe me take a trip to a foreign country and break a law and you will soon find out how little our embassy can and will do.
              

          • ThresherK

            I haven’t read everything out there on this.

            But when it comes to libel, the courts in the UK (or England, I don’t know if it’s different for this subject–and yes, with obstinate notgettingits like Brandstad around I have to make that long-winded differentiation) have a much lower standard of proof than in the USA.

            If one is suing for libel and one can get the venue to be in England (/UK, see above, thanks for making me explain this again, Brandstad), one does so at every opportunity. There is a history of this.

            Don’t know what relation that may have to other privacy/”good name”/press freedom criminal or civil codes.

    • A.H.

      The hacking was not done by outside individuals; the hacking plus bribery was done by News Corp employees, was widespread and occurred for years prior to 2005 when the News Corp reporter was arrested.
      This is not a wikileaks analogy; this is rampant corruption by an entire news organization ably assisted by equally corrupt Scotland Yard and police, and numerous other civilians.

      • Anonymous

          A.H. has chosen a “name” that does not allow replying to (using the ‘at’ symbol).
        There was “hacking” going on here in the U.S., also. David Carr of the NYT article on Monday:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/business/media/for-news-corporation-troubles-that-money-cant-dispel.html?hp=&pagewanted=all

        A NewsCorp company that publishes advertising inserts for papers hacked into a competitor, used company information to slime the company and win bids for itself. The company had won a $300 MILLION lawsuit when NewsCorp offered $500 MILLION to the company to make the lawsuit go away (preserving NewsCorp’s FCC license one might suppose).

    • GLH

      The NSA/DSA calls the protocol that tracks radio comments back to an individual computer and related address TURBULENCE. After you submit the targeted keywords your every keystroke is followed. We should all be flattered how tax money is lavished on thought policing. What Mr. Murdoch’s gremlins and contractors are accused of consists of crude and primitive techniques. Of course the intelligence community has the ability to share with their wealthy friends just as WikiLeaks and their ilk have shared with us. As Mulder observed, “The truth (news) is out there.”

  • Bruceguindon

    all right, then why in the name of honest reporting do the lights remain on at FOX News. do you think anyone has the gumption to lift the rock and expose the beast and yes we start to clean the filth by going after FOX News and then perhaps [and I know I'm dreaming] we can take a harder look at the whole news business and it’s corporate overseers…just saying 

  • Lee

    Darn, pre-empted.

  • Freeman

    Tom;
             We shall see “If the color of justice in America is GREEN” ?  Business as usual ! He who has the MONEY, makes the rules. WHAT DEMOCRACY ???

    • Anonymous

      Exactly,  What democracy?  The US is a representative Republic by design.  You should look into a little US history to know why we were not created as a Democracy!

      • ThresherK

        Anybody but you I’d think was making an honest mistake, but from you I think you’re just going for a PhD in semantics.

        The same way that words’ meanings change to reflect common usage, no matter how incorrect according to the dictionary or linguists, is the way “democracy” is commonly used.

        • Anonymous

          Democracy is not a representative Republic… Please learn basic US history.  

          I will believe you know basic US history when you can tell me why did the founders chose not to make the US a Democracy!

          • ThresherK

            I know basic US history, and I don’t pretend to be a nitpicking aspwipe (actually, you don’t pretend either) when people say “democracy”.

          • Anonymous

            So can tell me why did the founders chose not to make the US a Democracy!

          • ThresherK

            I know basic US history, and I don’t pretend to be a nitpicking aspwipe
            (actually, you don’t pretend either) when people say “democracy”.

            Is everything you spew limited to archaic word forms? Do you find yourself being misunderstood by people of all stripes?

          • Anonymous

            Is it because they were worried about people like you having a direct vote on important matters?

          • GLH

            Jemmy Madison (and Dolley) would heartily agree.

          • Anonymous

            No, try again after reading some of the Federalist Papers.

          • RMGuy

            This is just a tea party trope to assert that Republicans are the constitutionalists, not the wicked, wicked Democratic party.  Go dress up in your tri-corner hat and stick a musket in your mouth.

          • GLH

            Funding Fathers chose Oligarchy to protect the wealthy class, overturning the revolution of 1776 in 1789. The Constitution is more or less a deed to property with scant protection of human rights. Goldman Sachs has termed our contemporary condition a “plutonomy.” In that case government could be starved like a beast and withered away and crony corporate feudalism (as in China) could take up the slack. What are their plans for the superfluous population? That is the primary question. (In my cartoon Mr. Bigbritches has no plans for his underling Brainstem, once his use is exhausted.)

          • Anonymous

            GLH, why exactly are you writing about the French constitution?

      • nj

        Disqus ought to provide some filtering mechanism to make selected handles invisible. Just today, i’ve already lost a couple of minutes of my life that i’ll never get back reading drivel like this.

      • Thinknaboutit

        Not sure what point you are trying to manufacture.

        But the reason we had the revolutionary war in the first place was because our founding fathers were fed up with the corporate greed.  Our founding fathers would bring us all behind the woodshed if they saw what we’ve allowed the corporations to become.

        • Anonymous

          I am not trying to manufacture any answer, but I am trying to get some of the listeners to the show to read the Federalist papers in order to understand how our constitution was sold to the people prior to it being signed.  I am pretty sure I am the only person here that has read the founders of the constitution’s own words on what the constitution means and how it is supposed to work.

          If you haven’t read them, I hope you will soon so you can know “what point you are trying to manufacture” as you say

  • Ellen Dibble

    What is the British concept of news?  Actually what is the American concept of news?  The best YouTube animal story, or damsel-in-distress story?  If you have 23 minutes of “news,” how much of it is actually entertainment?  It’s like we think corn-syrup-flavored (government subsidized corn) cereal is preferable because it has been advertised and is more mouth watering than plain oatmeal.  We think “news” is what the networks find is most distracting.  The profit motive in most broadcasting is so glaring, why are we surprised?

    • ThresherK

      I’ve never been, but it’s odd how the British commercial press has been the place to go for a lot of coverage of the US during the last decade.

      • Ellen Dibble

        I go to the BBC, radio and websites, but I don’t think that’s commercial.  I think every Brit pays something like $100 a year for use of a TV, together with BBC coverage.
        What we are seeing today is that every corner of British life is somewhat infected by the rather perverting influence of what seems to be amoral wielding of lots of money and media might. I don’t know how it affects the elections and the budgets over in England, but the BBC surely will try to figure that out.

      • Freeman

        Great Observation;     I too am surprised and saddened that MOST of  the information and news for America that I get and have confidence in comes from the BBC- Television and Radio.
        Reasons to an Honest analysis should be obvious. Sadly All these officials take their “millions and billions” and live ‘happlily ever after’.
        Oh Tom; not you, Do enjoy listening to ” MOST ” of your broadcasts.

      • Anonymous

        @fe91b576fa3c6878e4f0439bfec6bb1a:disqus @ellendibble:disqus The commercial press in the U.K. is led by the Guardian, which has a financial fund large enough to ensure its existence for the foreseeable future. An aptly named institution. Though it has not been right on all articles (a few Climate Change hiccups) it has been stalwart in defending truth in general.

  • Anonymous

    Without Fox News, there would be no mainstream news to counter the leftist media presented by all of the other networks.

    • ThresherK

      Reality Event Horizon crossed. Hope you have a trail of breadcrumbs to lead you back to the real world.

      • Anonymous

        Don’t Cross the Beams!

        • ThresherK

          I guess I’m not reading enough sci fi; what is that?

          • kelty

            ghostbusters!

          • GLH

            I ain’t afraid of no Fascist! Where’s the trap? Murdoch almost unleashed the Sta-Puff Marshmellow Man! “Who ya gonna call….?”

          • ThresherK

            Thanks to you both. Don’t know how I could missed that. Too much Kurosawa lately, I guess.

    • Anonymous

      To think GE controlled NBC is liberal and Fox is mainstream certainly reflects a belief, a faith, a received wisdom.  But not a convincing observation.

      • ThresherK

        …and GEcontrolledNBC still fired Keith Olbermann for doing what Joltin’ Joe Scarborough did.

    • Anonymous

      Oh please, the idea that NBC or any other news appendage of the large corporate entertainment corporations are left wing is a joke.
      A real joke.

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

        You are not serious are you?

        • MyLilFool

          If you think that there is anything near to liberal reflected in ANY of the corporate owned mass media , you don’t know what liberal means, and you live in a box created by the conservative spin-doctors. Some of the talent that stands in front of the camera may be liberal in their personal views (most anyone with any talent is) but that is about it.

          • GLH

            Lil:” Liberal” is part of the same wealth conspiracy as “CONservative”. We actually need some socialist, communist and anarchist media to wake up our thought processes. Then we need to shrug off the recipes and cook for ourselves. People possess an untapped political creativity that is astounding. Brandstad and JasonA have encysted minds but ours are still peach cubes in the Jello. Lets eat our way out of the media bubble.

    • Terry Tree Tree

      Fox News relies on a career drug-addict, and four-times-divorced dictator, for its ratings.  He crucified Chelsey Clinton, for being ugly, as a young teen, and claims we should NOT involve the families, when the Bush twins (over 18) were drunking and drugging!  Sooo objective??

  • Anonymous

    WBUR, I would rather listen to On Point than the live feed.  It is unlikely that they will say anything newsworthy at this hearing.

    • Ellen Dibble

      I heard Murdoch say about 9:55 AM our time that large payouts to people across the globe would not be brought to his attention; that is insulated from him and kept at the level where the payouts are made.  He didn’t state this as a particularly significant thing, but any organization that has the kind of money (from all that salacious “news”) can pay to silence people and to blackmail people, and to drive them to distraction, which may be the case with Hoare.  He may have seen an opportunity to actually face-down Murdoch, Murdoch, and Rebekah Brooks — it sounds Dickensian.  And his body was worn down by years of substance abuse, and the stress was just the last straw.  A tragedy.  It would be him, the fragile, against these powerful and self-satisfied mighty people.  It is enough to make one dizzy to contemplate.  

    • andyli

      Yes, it’s irritating that I have to stream a program from a Connecticut station online when the program originates locally here on WBUR.

      • ThresherK

        Hey, there’s some good local-sourced programming on CPBN. (Of course, it has a distinct non-Boston flavor.)

        • Anonymous

          And they tell you what is coming up on Fresh Air.  WBUR should do this too.  One station also announces tomorrow’s On Point at the end of the show.  WBUR’s website is worthless regarding what is going to be on the day’s programs except for its own shows.  It still has yesterday’s info for Fresh Air.  I just heard one for today’s Talk fo the Nation too.

          • GLH

            Tom is afraid Michael will stay up writing all night if he announces too early. He’s so considerate that way.

    • Michael

      I prefer not listen to the live feed than filtered he/she said small sound bits. though the guest line up seemed pretty good.

      Kudos Onpoint.

    • Ellen Dibble

      You can listen to the C-Span hearings later, I believe.  It looks like they’ll be posted as links though no longer real-time, live.

    • GLH

      I call this type of hearing a litter box. They sniff, and if they smell the dirty deed they cover it up some more. It’s rally tough on those cats  because big  business ethics hasn’t had a cleaning in decades. Now they’re just shoveling the s**t.

  • Anonymous

    If the police were paid informants for the news papers, don’t you think that there were also paid informants inside the NHS?  If there were, do you think the same will happen here when all our medical records are digitized and government controlled?

    • ThresherK

      Go do your right-wing fearmongering somewhere else.

      We have more to fear from insurance companies and the ilk of Trans (“nice credit rating you got here, shame if anything were to ‘appen to it”) Union than from a government agency run by civil servants.

      (Of course, as a right-winger, someone will have to detail to you the difference between civil service lifers and political hacks who are appointed to not actually perform governance.)

      • GLH

        He fantasizes about the sadistic acts he’d perform were he in power. Then he brags. He forgets he is a plebe who mistakenly worships the wealthy. And that is the power of mind colonization demonstrated. He is our research subject.

  • Dweber

    Note the statement by Murdoch: HE was humbled–it is all about his feelings.  No statements of apology, nothing about the damage the tactics and corrupt practices have unleashed.  And as to the comments about Murdoch “countering the leftist media,” GET OVER IT.  The news media in the US has always been dominated by the right wing. The only problems we have had have been since the repeal of the fairness doctrine. FOX faux news is infotainment for the right wing.  It is not news.  If you have to say it is fair and balanced, it isn’t. 

    • ThresherK

      The news media have always been domninated by the right wing?

      I dunno, when there were countless newspapers in every city, in every immigrant community (and often every major tongue) newspapers didn’t pretend to hide behind “balance”. Hence newspaper names including “Independent”, “Democrat” and “Republican”.

      The boiling down of this has reduced viewpoints. See here for just a snippet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_World_Journal_Tribune.

      • Guest-22

        What’s changed is the consolidation allowed by the FCC under the Bush Administration, when the corss-ownership ban was lifted. Media markets can be controlled more and more by fewer entities, so fewer viewpoints.

        Murdoch’s millions fueled campaigns for many conservative politicians, and his control of TV, newspaper, and radio stations locally helped determine what news got covered and how much air time candidates got, and also the shape of “debates.”

        • ThresherK

          That’s a important point you’ve made on the contiuum. Especially re allowing Murdoch to own the WSJ and VHF-5 in NYC at the same time: If anyplace in America doesn’t have the appetite for multiple commercial media outlets to be successful and owned separately, it’s the New York metro area.

      • GLH

        Freedom of the press is for those who own a press, and they borrow money from the wealthy class to get one. That is why the Internet today is an ugly shopping mall.

  • Michael

    The King speech part 2. played by James Murdoch.

  • ThresherK

    Wow. Caller is going to die on the hill of “freedom of the press” for a propagandist like Rupert Murdoch?

  • http://twitter.com/mrwakiki MrWakiki

    Murdoch is why there are monopoly laws and why we ignore them. Power… and power corrupts 

  • http://twitter.com/mrwakiki MrWakiki

    I really believe if any person in power – Obama, Limbaugh, Beck, Bill Gates – could get information from hacking phones and they thought they wouldn’t get caught. they would

  • http://twitter.com/mrwakiki MrWakiki

    @ThresherK Freedom of the press? funny right, you should not be able to break the law – ever

    • ThresherK

      Explain, please.

  • Vince

    This is, and has been, a systemic method of controlling government by Murdoch, Oil, and the Koch Bros… follow the money. We see this every day, and then watch nothing happen because of the money available to protect themselves in court or through “owned” media.

    • at

      It’s amazing, then you have these clowns who get their news from whatever source conforms to their psychological compulsions coming on this site and just posting the same old knee-jerk fascism (now called conservatism) over and over and over, like their minds were in a ever tightening closed loop that is impervious to both evidence and intelligent comment.

      • GLH

        Those knee-jerks expect reward from their masters. Even they could turn on the wealthy class if no trickle rains down. It used to be that every good boy (every positivist booster of capitalism) deserved favor. But now the Oligarchs are so high and mighty they do collateral damage to their own cause. Surgical strikes are against the superfluous population regardless of ideology.

  • Jonathan Teller-Elsberg

    The caller who said that Murdoch and his media corporation shouldn’t be bothered, and that the real criminals are in the government is partly right but also significantly wrong. He’s right that our government and the UK government are either breaking laws of privacy or diluting them to the point of uselessness. But he’s wrong to protect the Murdoch media system especially because News Corp doesn’t help reduce government misconduct–it empowers it. As the revelation of connections and back-scratching between News International and the British police and political class show, aggressive media power does nothing to help hold government to account. Just as the British police kow-towed to News International interests and helped paper over the investigation into criminal behavior by News International employees, and just as British politicians sucked up to News International executives even as the politicians personal lives were being criminally invaded, News Corp has used its power and influence to focus public attention on frivolities and fictions instead of emphatically exposing meaningful bad behavior by the government. Here we have corrupt police and Murdoch’s papers can’t expose the corruption because they are themselves the promoters of that corruption, they are the ones paying off the corrupt police. This is not “freedom of the press.” The press is not “free” to promote corruption–at least it shouldn’t be. In practice it seems to have been doing just that for far too long.

    • GLH

      Add the fact that it is lax government regulation and favors for the wealthy speculators that brings concentrated media into existence.

      • Anonymous

        Now there is something we can agree on.  No one person or company should own more than 35% of the news media in any market, News papers, TV, Internet….

        • RMGuy

          Back to the shallow end; you’re not adding anything here.

  • Ellen Dibble

    Could a group of Republicans buy out Murdoch’s American empire to keep that conservative voice alive?  Where is William F. Buckley?  Will the Real Conservative Voice materialize and step forth.  All you posters who want a viable two-party system, can you come together and buy up some media locations so we can hear your voices?

    • ThresherK

      The RCVs you are looking for don’t statistically exist. They’re way on the back bench, in small numbers, not leading in elected, appointed, propaganda or lobbying roles, because they’ll get excoriated when they push back. The slightest throat-clearing, and they end up crawling to Rush apologizing, or get crowned (the bad kind) by Foxholers.

      Actually, this leads back to the show about “no labels”: Teabaggers are, by and large, the same old Republicans who have realized that the previous decade has destroyed the brand name.

      For every Dixiecrat who whined about “the party leaving me”, the modern tea party’s jettisoning of what used to be moderate Republican pols and platforms is is what “the party leaving me” actually looks like.

    • Sandyu

      Bill Buckley is dead. (But not before they kicked him out of his own magazine, the National Review,) 

    • Filow

      Buckley is dead.

    • GLH

      Let it die like like Borders (Walden) Books. It’s time has passed.
      Even Bill Buckley graciously lay down.

  • http://twitter.com/mrwakiki MrWakiki

    I guess I would point the finger at government… a bit more, in this case the Police and and several politicians were on the take from Murdoch… I would love to see a ‘real conservative’ step forward and point out how bad this is… what about someone other than Jon Stewart 

    • GLH

      The Guardian has been pointing out this scandal for a decade.

  • Charles A. Bowsher

    For the rest of my life, when I hear Ruperts sad little blurt “This is the most humble day of my life” I will forever hear Homer Simpson’s reply to son Bart when he said lamentably “This is the worst day of my life”, Homer with his arm around Bart’s shoulder replied “So Far.”  Wish I could have been there to say the same to old Rupert. The most humble day of your life? So Far Rupert, so far….

    • ThresherK

      “I mean, we could sit here and try to figure
      out whose newspaper hacked which murder victim’s phone till the cows come home. But let’s just
      say we’re both wrong and that’ll be that.”  –after Homer Simpson

      • Charles A. Bowsher

        Maybe I misunderstand you, But it is not.  For me the problem with Murdoch and others (Roger Alyes) of his ilk and influence in this country goes back to the 2000 election. Florida was rightfully Gore’s and it was FAUX news as much as anyone (Jeb Bush and Kathleen Harris) who stole the election from the American Public. But for their actions, we would not have gone to Iraq, 9/11 might not have happened….You can call me sore loser, conspiracy theorist all you want but you can not deny that Jeb and Kathleen illegally purged the voters rolls in Florida of 93,000 voters just before the election and it was later shown lthat 90% of them were not felons, so they were eligible to vote and the majority of them were black.  Bush won by 564 votes. Scalia’s son works for the law firm that handled Bush’s side in Bush v. Gore before the U.S. Sup. Ct., Justice Thomas’s wife works for the company that helped select Bush’s cabinet. Bush’s inaugaration was a bloodless coup, except for thousands of soldiers who died in Iraq, and the tens of thousands of Iraqi citizens killed with our “Shock and Awe” bombardment of their country. One day the historical record will reflect the truth on this one. 

        • GLH

          Catherine Harris, names are important in indictments.

        • ThresherK

          Charles, I think you do misunderstand me. (Check out my other stuff herein. We are very much on the same page.)

          My Simpsons’ allegory was coming from Rupert, not you. Sorry I didn’t make it clearer.

          I was pivoting on the groveling spectacle of Murdoch hoping this would make it all better, after days of trying to wish away things and pretend it didn’t matter.

  • Michiganjf

    I love it!!

    Murdoch claims to have called the editor of his best-selling newspaper maybe once a month, and that the conversation would go like this:

    “Whatcha doin’?”

    “Not much…”

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!

    … and I can hear Murdoch then saying “Oh, okay then… I’ll just say G’day until next months call.”

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !

    This stuff is even more rich than the faisco of the Enron hearings!

    • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

      Enron made the Bush family rich.

      • GLH

        The Civil War and Railroadism made the Bush family rich. Intermarrying with the Walkers made them Wall Street titans. The Nazis made Prescott Bush a mogul. The Cold War made Daddy Bush a crony capitalist comisar and an assassin. False flagged 9/11 made Dud Bush a Fascist Deity. They were recently asked to transfer funds from Bermuda to the Vatican to keep from swamping the island nation. 

        • charlottesweb

          Interesting how many opponents or potential opponents of their myriad cos. (oil, steel, munitions, nuclear, finance) or of the family’s political dreams died or were badly injured in small aircraft. Start with the Kennedy family (Joe Jr., sister Kathleen Cavendish, brother Ted (survived crash–Robt. and John died differently, John Jr), Hale Boggs, Nick Begich, Jerry Litton, Mickey Leland, John Heinz, John Tower, move on to Mel Carnahan, Paul Wellstone, etc.  (Should we add Ted Stevens? Nah.) Totally a coincidence of course, and the wild musings of political conspiracists. The Cavendish story is quite interesting and her fate was so similar to Princess Diana’s. But we digress.

          • charlottesweb

            If you like oil-arms-drugs-banks-media control-election puzzles, connect the dots (or unravel the tangled web, as you wish):  Strauss-Kahn, IMF, BCCI, BCCI scandal, Iran-Contra, John Kerry, Jeb Bush, John Ellis, Fox News, George Bush I, Salem Bin Laden, Murdoch. Hint: Follow the money.

  • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

    The only person I really admired in the world of journalism or media for the past 35 years of my life is Ted Turner. He introduced a black news achor on CNN, married 3 wives with names started with the letter “J”s but Ted Turner is not a reporter but a business man.

    When I first heard the name Ruport Murdoch I thought the Enemy of Superman became a Journalist but Murdoch became the enemy of the British people.

  • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

    Corruption is not about stealing money it is about Capitalism.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

      So you are saying that in the Soviet Union the bureaucrats were all choir boys?

      • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

        China is a communist capitalist country.

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

          Yes, I know…your point is still not clear.

          • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

            It will take me 50 paragraphs to explain it to you and still you won’t understant it. The best thing is to watch the documentary film “Maxed Out” with Elizabeth Warren.

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

            You seem to have no problem churning out pointless comments.  Can’t you give the Cliff Notes version? And enlighten us common people with your wisdom?

            Oh well.

          • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

            JasonA you leave comments on One Point doesn’t mean you’re smart. Oh Well!!!

        • guest

          More like a fascist country that can pass when you take it out.

  • Sandy Untermyer

    BIG MISTAKE… to dismiss the caller who suggested that this scandal isn’t gonna be used by the political parties to attack press freedom. The Obama Administration in particular is notorious for attacking whistle-blowers. Especially government ones. Don’t forget — we’re still doing torture in black sites, we’re still doing rendition. And, last year, on Sept 8, the Administration went into court and was successful in having open discussion of US torture etc declared a crime. We haven’t seen a clampdown on government secrecy like this in any administration since Nixon’s.

  • Guest-22

    Murdoch’s humble-pie apologies ring hollow. Like Bernie Madoff did, he’s laughing all the way to the bank.

    I hope when this show/discussion actually airs, we’ll hear how far Murdoch’s tentacles reach into the American media–the extent of ownership of local tv and radio stations and newspapers. Contributions of those companies (as “individuals”) to political campaigns. Whether his minions helped to get the ban on cross-ownership in media markets lifted under the Bush Administration. And whether any of his companies contributed to campaigns of candidates who supported defunding public broadcasting — as a way of limiting further the “truths” reporters are permitted to investigate and report on. 

    Freedom of the press has always meant that he who owns the press has the freedom. But the near-monopolistic grip of Murdoch’s enterprises on media markets and their intrustion into politics helps limit the ability of citizens to make important business and political decisions to what serves the Murdoch Medusa.

    So we ordinary citizens may manage to cut off one corrupt head– but nine more appear.  We don’t really stand a chance.

    • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

      That humble pie almost made it on the face of Murdoch.

  • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

    Remember Rupert Murdoch is not really an American, he was born in Australia.

    • Janet_Coul

      I bet he could come up with an American long form birth certificate easy though. 

      • ThresherK

        Yes, but he can’t put out the fires from idiot morons that he wasn’t born in Hawaii.

        Nice dogwhistle, hack.

  • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

    To JasonA – definition of my quote “Corruption is not about stealing money it is about Capitalism” there are different types/kinds of corruptions to bid rigging,bribery,cartel,collusion,nepotism,electoral fraud etc etc etc. Murdoch is not politically corrupt but he or his organization bribed someone to get the password of the victim’s voicemail just to Make profits for his own personal gain in the world of news media. (i can’t explain everything i’m at work). And Jason communism has nothing to do with my quote but I still answered your pathetic question.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/3ETFGMQ3B7VD4AAMILBBEVMCWE JasonA

      Thanks for your rude reply. It is gracious of you to descend to the level of the ordinary man in order to dispense your “wisdom”…..

      • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

        hey just getting even.

  • Janet_Coul

    Newscorp stock is up, enough said, no story here.  That probably won’t stop complete failures here from attacking Murdoch’s success.

    • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

      Ted Turner didn’t do Anything stupid and his the same business kind of man like Murdoch but minus the stupidity.

    • Michael

      odd, they loss over 6 billion in stock value since it started and still yet to recover such loss.

  • http://twitter.com/FilipinoBoston FilipinoBoston

    My one good example was during the Marcos regime when a group of BBC reporter visited the Philippines to film the New People’s Army.
    They asked one of the commander if he could ask his rebel soldiers to ambush Filipino soldiers while the BBC reporters were filming the carnage in return the BBC reporters paid the rebel soldiers.
    The commander said yes and rest is history. Cory Aquino didn’t have the power to prosecute the BBC reporters for they were protected by the almighty United Kingdom.
     
    It was another sad moment for the Filipino people. BBC even showed that carnage to the British people. Sad part was that the British people never protested against those BBC reporters and until now those reported are still out there. Probably they are still paying people to do something evil for the sake of News or to get high tv ratings.
     
     

  • Janet_Coul

    Johnny Marbles seemed to get the worst of that one.  Let that be a lesson to all libturds.

  • Anonymous

    Why are they parading Rupert Murdoch in front of everyone and not the police chief and other high paid government officials that had subordinates accept bribes?  How many public officials have been fired so far for their inappropriate and illegal actions?

    • Michael

      Both the police chief and second in command resign as long as internal investigations into the polices previous conduct. check out bbc if you wish to actually be informed.

      cheers

  • Janet_Coul

    Johnny Marbles got the worst of that one.  That’ll be a lesson to libby failures.

    • ThresherK

      Yep, the popular thing right now is to say “I always knew Rupert was a hack and crook, but never thought he was a criminal”.

      Those of us who never trusted the words “Murdoch” and “journalism” in the same sentence though ol’ Rupe coulda used a pie in the face years ago.

      Oh, wait, that’s not what you meant? And by “libby failures” you mean “not attacking someone with a pie, but ‘exercising second amendment rights’ or looking for a ‘second amendment solution’ ” ?

  • Michael

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=NWS&a=11&b=30&c=1987&d=06&e=19&f=2011&g=m

    News Corp

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    DateOpenHighLowCloseAvg VolAdj Close* Jul 18, 201115.4015.6515.2315.4011,794,10015.40Jul 11, 201116.8016.9515.4516.0915,394,10016.09Jul 5, 201118.2918.6417.1217.334,539,40017.33

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  • Bob

    U.S. Kids Appear Lost in Geography Knowledge
    If our education system continues on the current path structural unemployment will grow and remain unalterably high. The cost to society of these “takers” will overwhelm the capacity of the producers to provide a decent life for all and we will inexorably sink into third world style poverty with vast numbers of unemployables. Remember that roughly 47% of Detroit residents are functionally illiterate. What happens if this becomes the case for the majority of American cities? Over half the Hispanics in Los Angeles do not finish high school and we know that even those that do often require enormous amounts of remedial help to accomplish freshman college work. Fifty years of progressive education have worked destructive magic

  • Ellen Dibble

    Tom read out somebody’s tweet that goes, “His karma ran over his dogma,” relating to Rupert Murdoch, and I’m thinking after watching BBC video of the hearings and so on all afternoon, that actually his dogma ran over his karma.    His karma is pretty well flattened, anyway.
    I was watching the video on son James’s face when the plateful of shaving cream was being launched at Rupert’s face.  We saw a big reaction, and I thought maybe someone had grabbed his throat.  The video quickly pulled back, and we saw a court officer step forward.  At the end, the head of the hearing congratulated Wendi Murdoch, a young woman in pink sitting behind Rupert, for her powerful punch, some boxing term.  But it was the woman further to the side, in gray, who had gotten up.  Anyway, it was the attacker who ended up with humble pie all over his face when he was interviewed later.  And his shirt.  Murdoch took off his jacket and continued.       The issue, to those MP’s interviewed, is how to have a powerful media presence but not one that has to be escorted into 10 Downing Street by the back door.  Powerful enough to ensure freedom and openness, but not powerful enough to strangle others.  And the relation to law enforcement has to be restructured too.  There was a lawyer who spoke out to the BBC about the use and misuse of the legal system.  He said that no one would presume that a settlement would go from 6 million to 60 million (something like that) in order to reflect what the legal costs would be had the case not been settled out of court.  He said a court case never would cost 100 times the pain and suffering being “settled.”  Something like that.  

  • Bob

    Obama should be questioned like Murdoch was.
    Obama Deception . “It turns out that our problem is we cut taxes without paying for them over the last decade”Obama implies that the deficits we have now have been going on for the last ten years, insinuating it is an ongoing problem from the Bush administration. The reality is that deficit spending in Obama’s first three years in office is more than double the entire deficit spending of the George W Bush administration. Deficits for the last ten years:2011 $1,500 Billion2010 $1,300 Billion2009 $1,400 Billion2008 $240 Billion2007 $161 Billion2006 $248 Billion2005 $319 Billion2004 $412 Billion2003 $374 Billion2002 $159 Billion

    • Charles A. Bowsher

      Bob, wake up, if Bush had not buried us so far into debt and been so llax with regulation the financial crisis would not have happened. Go back and look at how many jobs were being hemmoraged in bush last year and half, you can not turn that big a mess around in 6 months or a year.

      Money is cheap now. I say we borrow as much as we can and invest it inour childrens future in the form of an improved education sytem etc etc

    • jo

      Very true.

  • Janet_Coul

    Watched the whole thing, bloody boring if you ask me.

  • Cp10014

    Why am I not hearing about the fact that reporters were hacking each other? The “Rebekah Wade” mentioned in the enclosed Guardian piece from 2007 is the “Rebekah Brooks” who was just arrested.
     http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/jan/26/newsoftheworld.pressandpublishing1
    The charges related to three members of the royal household, but the investigation found that targets for tapping may also have included David Blunkett, while he was home secretary, the government minister David Miliband, the England and Portsmouth defender Sol Campbell, and the Sun editor Rebekah Wade.

  • Kin Clinton

    Greatly dismayed that you indulged Dean Starkman’s fatuous indictment of Fox News as mocking of “fair” journalism. Starkman’s delight in Murdoch’s travails is hardly news. But you cannot sit on your hands when someone on your show presumes to state so emphatically that an entire organization is corrupt. Starkman is a loser. You, I believe, missed an opportunity to move the dial.

  • Ellen Dibble

    It is instructive to listen to David Cameron’s  approximately 3 hours at the Main Hall of the House of Commons this morning, summarizing the issues and his approach.  The DailyBeast had a live link, and I had heard Tina Brown, whose spouse Harold Evans had had a major fight with News International ending his employment there — see Morning Edition, NPR, this morning, setting forth her take.  So I was glad to find the link.  The Commons speakers heard Cameron reiterate what Rebekah Brooks had said yesterday that she had not visited 10 Downing Street since he was in office, and he thought government/media contacts should be transparent and would seek to ensure that.  And Brooks had not had contact with him since he was in office.  And meanwhile all the mediasphere is saying, ha-ha, she is visiting his place in Oxfordshire.  And the Commons speakers said they know why she isn’t at Number 10; it’s because she is going to the more private site, and that rowdy House asserted they would NOT embarrass Cameron by making him answer to that.  Word is that Parliament is far worse at interrogating witnesses than American Congressional committees, so I want to see.  Check out Parliamentlive.dot TV.  It’s all there, live, archived from yesterday, or transcripts.  Wow.

  • Eric Penman

     The Media, the Corporations, and Elective Governments are all connected in an unholy alliance to aid the rich and powerful,
    with the results being the elimination of the middle class worldwide.
    The internet which was supposed to free people has become
    just another tool of enslavement, five companies basically control
    the net, we are moving toward this zero sum game with
    technology being used speed the process up. But this will
    breed extremism and the end of democracy as it already has
    in the Arab world, expect the same in Europe and America soon.
    To see this as a Arab spring is beyond absurd!
    The rot has set in everywhere and when the whole financial system implodes the real fun begins. Its not a question weather this will happen of if its only a question of when the pot boils over. They will blame something minor and not see that foundations of the west are gone now.
    No free press, no free elections, unlimited corporate power
    no safety net, equals Fascism how sad this train seems unstoppable
    now.

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