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Terrifying Tornadoes

The tornadoes toll in the South. We’ll look at the aftermath and the climate science of what just happened.

Robbie Thomas cries as she looks through her tornado ravaged home in Tuscaloosa, Ala., Friday. (AP)

Robbie Thomas cries as she looks through her tornado ravaged home in Tuscaloosa, Ala., Friday. (AP)

It was weather for the history books in the American South last week. Death, destruction, and tornadoes on a scale that was hard to believe — unless you saw them.

Six hundred tornadoes in April. More than 300 in one 24-hour period alone, last week. Many, monsters. Huge. Plowing across Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia, Virginia, Kentucky.

Now, they’re burying the many dead — toting up the damage, looking out on whole neighborhoods and towns blown away. And asking, what happened here?

This hour On Point: the aftermath and science of last week’s savage storms.

- Tom Ashbrook

Guests:

Mark Strassmann, correspondent for CBS News.

Tom Grazulis, meteorologist and tornado climatologist and author of “The Tornado: Nature’s Ultimate Windstorm.”

Chuck  Faush, Chief of Staff to Mayor William Bell in Birmingham, AL

Harold Brooks, research meteorologist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Severe Storms Laboratory in Norman, Okla.

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  • Roger Runnalls

    Well, it seems to happen most where the people like the government the least. Time to live by your idol Ronnie Reagan’s nine most terrifying words in the English language, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’ Let’s see if Paul Ryan and the Koch brothers give you a helping hand.

    • Zing

      So there’s no difference between disaster relief and being told what light bulb to use…..

      • Cory

        How about being told what lightbulb to use and killing Bin Laden? Our GOVERNMENT accomplished that. Our bloated, incompetent, wasteful GOVERNMENT found a single man hiding in the middle of a large and heavily populated country. The GOVERNMENT then penetrated hundreds of miles into this nuclear power with helicopters, killed this man and took vital intelligence materials out of the country before they could begin to react.

        You and your like are just afraid that an effective and answerable government will champion the good of all Americans, instead of protecting the fortunes of those near the top.

        • Sealteam6arf-arf-arf

          We practiced each day for six months by stealthily attacking three story compounds around Florida and killing elderly infirmed men on the third floor. As soon as we got off the boat from the dumping we started lassoing tornadoes like Pecos Bill and harnessing them to extract natural gas to power our helicopters. All of us are virile Barack Obama look-alikes (after cosmetic surgery) ready to jet around the world soliciting campaign funds. Kill one and ten more pop up. We talk alike, we walk alike, we even ride a bike alike- you can lose your mind… when team 6 is twelve of a kind.

      • TomK in Boston

        You say disaster relief, I say nanny government. john galt would deal with disasters using his own atlas-like abilities.

    • TomK in Boston

      I thought the most terrifying words were “I’m from WellPoint, and I’m here to raise your premium”. And any mention of the single word “reform” (= screw the middle class) by a corporate aristocrat sends chills down my spine. I’d rather deal with 100 civil servants than one corporate bureaucrat.

      As Cory says, the gvt haters who supposedly love our armed forces conveniently forget that they are gvt employees. They love to tell us how rapidly gvt medicare costs are increasing, but somehow they never mention that corporate insurance costs are increasing even more rapidly.

      Natural disasters make the gvt haters get real real fast. Of course the right never stops trying to destroy the legit functions of “we the people”, as when W appointed “Brownie” (qualifications = being the college roommate of a GoP activist) to be head of FEMA during Katrina. After such clowns, screw up, they tell us that it proves gvt is incompetent.

      Despite the “political science” of the right, there is no way to keep pumping CO2 into the atmosphere without making the climate more violent. Fasten your seat belts.

      Having said all that, best wishes to the victims of these horrible events.

      • ThresherK

        “I’m here to raise your premium”?

        Perhaps what you heard was “I’m here to provide a better experience for our Wellpoint family.:”

        As sure as Big Brother increases the chocolate ration from 30 grams a day to 20, they never say “raise premium” up top. But, otherwise, spot on.

        • TomK in Boston

          What was I thinking? Absolutely, a better experience, involving more freedom and choices, personalized, with lots of pictures of ecstatically happy people …..my gawd, you don’t come out and say, less for you at more out-of-pocket cost.

  • Zeno

    Does the government offer a tornado equivalent to “Flood insurance”? If so it would be preferable to the flood insurance, because tornadoes are generally random in the alley, but people can decide to NOT build in a flood plain.

  • John of Medford

    We all better get used to what was formerly classified as “extreme” or “freakish” weather. It is already becoming the new normality.

    I have a feeling that the “once in 100 years hurricane” is going to strike the US East coast/Northeast sooner rather than later with a similar degree of devastation that the South has recently experienced.

  • Yar

    We have had huge tornadoes throughout all of history. Maybe there is more energy in the atmosphere due to climate change. The biggest change today is that more of our land area is developed. There is someone in the path of these storms regardless of where they hit.
    The other big change is that we have better media coverage so we know all about the scope of the damage as it happens. When you look at the total number of structures damaged or destroyed it is amazing the death toll is a low as it is. News coverage of these events helps to save lives.

    • nj

      Subtle denialism: “Maybe there is more energy in the atmosphere due to climate change.”

      “Maybe”?

      [[ But rising temperature is only one effect of climate change. Probably more crucially, warmer air holds more water vapor than cold air does. The increased evaporation from land and sea leads to more drought but also to more precipitation, since what goes up eventually comes down. The numbers aren't trivial -- global warming has added 4 percent more moisture to the atmosphere since 1970. That means that the number of "extreme events" such as downpours and floods has grown steadily; the most intense storms have increased by 20 percent across the United States in the past century. ]] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/11/AR2010021103895.html

      [[ The atmosphere's water vapor content has increased by about 0.4 kilograms per cubic meter (kg/m3) per decade since 1988, and natural variability alone can't explain this moisture change, according to Santer. “The most plausible explanation is that it's due to human-caused increases in greenhouse gases,” he said.
      More water vapor - which is itself a greenhouse gas - amplifies the warming effect of increased atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide. ]] http://www.physorg.com/news169145892.html

      The fact that human settlement patterns are denser and more widespread means that the catastrophic consequences of anthropogenic climate disruption will be more serious.

      The media coverage issue is simply a red herring.

      • Yar

        I am not denning anything. I believe we are adding mass to the atmosphere through human activity. The water cycle moves that energy around our planet. My point on media coverage is only with technology developed in the last 100 years have we been able to quantify the number of tornadoes in a given storm event. So we can’t really make historical comparisons. We can design for better storm protection but that often comes at the expense of providing affordable housing for the poorest of our citizens. If the media wasn’t preoccupied with tornadoes and bin Laden’s death we would see much more on the flooding of the Ohio and Mississippi rivers. This is a record level of flooding. This slow moving disaster is moving down the river. Water had much more power than the wind.

  • E. Burke

    My question for your contributing meteorologists: could the thermal release, the column of heated air rising from the site of the Fukushima reactor, have contributed to the dynamics of the system that raked the South? The radioactivity I assume remains local to the Japanese environment; but the uncovered pile of nuclear materials released a sustained column of hot air, no? This was the distinct impression given by all the reportage in the weeks immediately following, although we’ve heard nothing about it since.

    • nj

      Why do you assume that the radioactivity remains local to Japan? It was documented and widely reported that radioactivity from the Japanese reactors moved around the planet within a week or so after the reactors were damaged.

    • Yar

      No, the energy in a large storm is several orders of magnitude greater than that of a power plant. The energy released in a storm comes from sunshine. Fossil fuels add carbon dioxide to the atmosphere which can store more sun energy, therefore making it possible for more energy to be released in a storm. Storms are part of the world’s energy transport system. The miracle of water is fascinating. 80 calories per gram to melt ice, and 540 calories to boil water, it make life possible and also interesting.

      • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

        Besides which, the local increase in temperature over the reactor wasn’t that much, so it would dissipate to the background temperature over only a short distance.

  • Anonymous

    Has that idiot Pat Robertson blamed the victims yet?

    • Geri

      John,

      You know what they say – “It takes one to know one”

      • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

        Really? It takes an idiot to recognize the stupidity, barbarism, and broken logic in another? There must be different kinds of idiocy.

        • Cory

          Greg, I’d like to buy you an ale or lager of your choosing!

          • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

            Fullers IPA, if you please. Let me know if you pass through northwest Arkansas.

    • Joshua Hendrickson

      Pat Robertson probably won’t get around to blaming these victims … too many white evangelicals amongst them, so obviously they’re not the problem. Of course, he could just say that God’s pissed at all the married gays and atheists, and just randomly struck out in anger and hit Alabama instead of California….

  • Yar

    Tornadoes can occur in every state. I did a quick check and here is a tornado that hit Buffalo New York July 25, 2010
    http://standeyo.com/NEWS/10_Earth_Changes/10_Earth_Changes_pics/100725.NY.tornado.jpg

    http://standeyo.com/NEWS/10_Earth_Changes/100725.4.NY.tornadoes.html

  • http://gregorycamp.wordpress.com/ Greg Camp

    Having been through a tornado in 2006, I can say that they don’t sound like trains. Trains have a low bass rumble and high-pitched squeaks, while the tornado was just a mid-range whirring. The best comparison is to a industrial fan.

  • Bob Bauer

    Typical NPR list of “experts” who are falling all over themselves to deny the connection of these massive weather events to Global Warming. They have changed the meaning of ‘we are not absolutely sure’ to ‘it’s not happening’. More heat (energy) into the system from the equatorial regions means more violent mixing with colder air from the poles in order to reach stasis. It isn’t that complicated. It means severe drought events and extreme weather events in new places. We see new all time records set in both directions constantly.

    Weather events such as these have been predicted by serious climate scientists since the EIGHTIES! Warnings have been given by scientists since the SEVENTIES!

    Now that it is happening, we love to deny it. This makes everyone feel better, but it is not going to help at all.

    We need to wake up and try to do something, and the first step is admitting something is seriously wrong.

    • Modavations

      In the 70′s the geniuses were predicting Global Winter.The reason computer modeling doesn’t work(that’s why the E.Anglia guys fudged the numbers)IS THAT THERE A ZILLIONS OF VARIABLES AND HALF ARE INVISIBLE.Their science was based on “frigging” tree rings.

      • nj

        Where’s the “Dislike” button on this thing?

        There was no scientific consensus for global cooling in the 1970s. A few articles in the popular press played up concern over a number of decades of cooler temperatures.

        http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2008/10/global-cooling-was-a-myth.html

        [[ A few climate scientists have now scanned through the research literature of the time. For 1965 to 1979, they found seven articles that predicted cooling, 44 that predicted warming and 20 that were neutral. The results are being published in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society. ]]

        http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/the-global-cooling-myth/

        [[ Finally, its clear that there were concerns, perhaps quite strong, in the minds of a number of scientists of the time. And yet, the papers of the time present a clear consensus that future climate change could not be predicted with the knowledge then available. Apparently, the peer review and editing process involved in scientific publication was sufficient to provide a sober view. This episode shows the scientific press in a very good light; and a clear contrast to the lack of any such process in the popular press, then and now. ]]

  • Yar

    I believe the conditions that create a tornado are directly connected to dew point. Water condenses in the funnel wall. The state change of water creates the difference in pressure and concentrates the energy flow into the funnel wall. Warm moist air at ground level is cooled by a down draft, water in the air condenses creating a low pressure that sucks more warm moist area into the funnel wall. The funnel wall is made up mostly of water changing state from gas to liquid. I have yet to see a description of a tornado that uses the condensation of water to explain the flow of energy across the funnel wall.

    http://www.britannica.com/thunderstorms_tornadoes/images/ocliwea122a4.gif

  • Modavations

    The commentator is as biased as they come.Why didn’t he just come out and say it’s global warming,it’s global warming.My suggestion is he screen his expert witnesses and “stack the deck”.I can’t forget the day Ashbrook was discussing the shooting in Arizona and was trying to convince the crowd that the Republican Tea Partyers were responsible.The listeners kept saying there’s a fringe on both sides,but Ashbrooke continually claimed “it’s more Republicans though”.A few week’s later we saw the left wing tantrum in Madison.

    • Anonymous

      Who got shot in Madison?

      • Modavations

        Here’s one better.Gov.Patrick goes to Madison to show solidarity with the “lefties”,while his legislature passes the same law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Cory

          Haven’t read the law, but I’ll go out on a limb and guess that it isn’t quite the same.

          • Anonymous

            Cory it’s not. The law which only effects the health care cost and does not stop collective bargaining with state and local unions.
            The reason this was done is that cities, towns and municipalities as well as the sate were not able to control this as the unions had way to much power over the costs. Times have changed the things needed to be tweaked. It’s not even on the same level as what just went down in Wisconsin or Indiana. Not even close. Nice try Modavations, but you’re wrong.

          • Modavations

            The next day 9 union leaders stormed into the state house, demanding a meeting with DiLeo(?).He made them wait 45 minutes,then stuck his head out the door and said”I’ll give you guys 45 seconds”!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Cory

      Is there any difference that can be drawn between a political rally and a mass murder? (or does it depend on your political perspective?)

      • Modavations

        The shooter was a “leftie” and Labor thugs are what Hitler and Stalin used as his enforcers

    • Anonymous

      So global warming is a political thing to you. Lets unpack this idea.
      If, and I’m going to use your ideology, if global warming is not happening than how do you account for the huge melt off of the polar ice caps? Greenland has lost huge amounts of it’s glaciers.
      Lets just say this is natural phenomenon that it’s just nature.
      That still does not discount that it’s not happening.
      What if your wrong. If the sea levels rise it will effect people of all political ideologies just as the tornadoes did.

      That said there is not enough evidence to point to global warming as the reason behind these recent storms. If they keep happening every year I think that might be another issue. At least this is what I have taken away from what I’ve read on the subject.

      • Modavations

        Global warming and cooling is natural.There’s no proof it’s man made.Thirty years ago it was Global Winter.Mt Pinatubo threw off more particulates then the entire industrial age.Mr Mann and the E.Anglia gang got busted fudging the #’s(hide the decline).There data was based on Frigging Tree Rings.

        • Anonymous

          You keep believing that. I wonder why the Netherlands and Denmark are spending billions on protecting the low lying parts of their countries. I guess they are wrong and you are right.
          I love this idea that global warming is natural. As if the amount of pollution we put into the environment means nothing.

          • Modavations

            Storm surges!!!!!!!!!!.Please,please,please send your kids to “parochial school”

          • Anonymous

            Why is it that people like you get so hot under the collar.
            It’s very amusing and I’m laughing at every inane response you keep posting.

          • Modavations

            Son,half my brain is tied behind my back,to give you a shot.We’ve gone back and forth ten times and all you’ve given us is,to quote the English judge,poppycock!!!!!!!!!!

          • Anonymous

            So where’s all your data smart ass. I don’t see a thing. By the way you spelled ideologue wrong. English judge, what English judge are you talking about. You off your meds or what?

          • Zeno

            geffe, This blog has many children on it now. You may be arguing with a teenager.

          • Anonymous

            I hear you. I’m dyslexic and I spell better than this guy. Proffessor Lindzen indeed…

          • Gregg
          • Modavations

            Go read Proffessor Lindzen,head climate Honcho at MIT.

          • Anonymous

            Professor is spelled with one ‘f’.

          • Anonymous

            Professor is spelled with one ‘f’.

          • Modavations

            The pollution what’s melting the Glaciers in Greenland!!!!!!!!!!!I can’t believe your not a college kid.Where did you get your schooling

      • Modavations

        When Eric the Red and Leif Eriksion voyaged in the 1100′s(?)they named their discovered island Greenland, because it was a frigging Jungle.They grew grapes in northern England.Not many car around then,just natural cycles.

        • Anonymous

          You insult my education and you say that Greenland was covered with trees a thousand years ago? I think you are mixing up Leif Erikson’ discoveries with Newfoundland, which did have trees on it and still does. Greenland was originally called Gruntland (“Ground-land”) and Engronelant (or Engroneland) on early maps. Whether green is an erroneous transcription of grunt (“ground”), which refers to shallow bays, or vice versa, is not known. The southern portion of Greenland (not covered by glaciers) is relatively green in the summer. It took me about 30 seconds to debunk your nonsense.
          It was green at the Southern tip, still is, but there were little or no trees on Greenland in the year 1000.

          Some verities of grapes thrive in cool climates. What’s your point, that people grow grapes in England. I know of people who grow them in Scotland, or at least try to. You try to come across as a intellectual but you keep digging a real deep hole for yourself.

          • Modavations

            New foundland came after Greenland.He founded two or three colonies on Greenland.Don’t take me literally when I say it was a frigging jungle.That’s done for effect and the climate was considerably warmer,sans les voitures!!!!!!!!!!Run from the Public Schools.

          • Anonymous

            See NJ’s comment on your act.

      • Modavations

        Oceans rise through subductuion and abduction.Nothing to do with melting ice.Take a glass of clear water and put an ice cube in it.Draw a line with a magic marker and wait for the cube to melt.Voila,the water level is the same.Send your kids to “private schools”please.

        • Anonymous

          Why do I get the feeling that no matter what anyone would say you would not believe in the science behind this.
          By the way insulting peoples children is a lowlife thing to do.

          • Modavations

            Sort of like Copernicus and Gallileo!!!!!!!!!Private schools please

          • Anonymous

            What’s with the private school crack? Anyway for your information I have one child and she’s an adult.
            What does Copernicus and Gallileo have to do with your denial of global warming science?

            OK I’m not going to respond to your inane comments anymore as it’s really a waste of time.

          • Modavations

            All the govt. scientists of the day, claimed the sun circled the Earth.They were almost burned at the stake.I hope your daughter is more astute!!!!!!!!!!

          • nj

            Time to heed sage advice, geffe: “Never argue with an idiot. He’ll drag you down to him level and beat you with experience.”

        • Joshua Hendrickson

          That’s true of ice in the water (up to a point) but it doesn’t take into account land-based icepacks, glaciers, etc.

          I will never understand the resistance to the very idea that humans have an environmental impact. It can only be based on FAITH in capitalism as the only possible workable system. Even if humans aren’t causing climate change, altering our society in an evironmentally sound way is still a win-win situation, while sitting on our hands is entirely lose-lose. How is that so hard to understand?

  • Sealteam6arf-arf-arf

    Isn’t it well-documented by radar and satellite imaging that recent mega-tornadoes spin right rather than the customary left? They destroy everything in their path while claiming to spread Liberty. Ayn Rand books and Kindles featuring her writings are seeded across the affected area of travel. Mises Institute is offering a ten million dollar award to any “professor” who can prove these “backward-spinners” generate prosperity through their creative destruction. Rumor has it Rand Paul is about to collect. We walk alike, we talk alike, we even ride a bike alike- You can lose your mind… When Sealteam6 is twelve of a kind.

  • Gregg – Taylorsville, NC

    I can only conclude by reading these comments that tornadoes are a recent development. Before humans the earth was much more serene. Nothing but continents colliding to form mountain ranges, ice ages coming and going, volcanoes erupting and the catastrophic extinction of dinosaurs. Paradise!

    I guess it would be pretty silly to talk about the Antarctic ice growing when we can focus on Arctic ice melting.

    No need to point out Algore’s infamous graph shows temperatures rose BEFORE CO2 levels rose not after. I’m sure he didn’t mean to mislead when he displayed 600,000 years of temperatures and CO2 levels and asked, “Did they ever fit together?”. Clearly the graph lines correlated, he didn’t need to actually say which came first. Implications and inferences will do just fine.

    What does all this mean? Well, obviously it means I am in favor of trashing the planet, drinking filthy water and breathing dirty air. What else could the truth mean.

    • Modavations

      Glad you’re here,even though I can put off the idealogues, with half my brain tied behind my back.They tried to force Gore’s movie on the kids in London and it was taken to court.The judge took a look at the movie and called the thesis “poppycock”!!!!!!!!!

      • Gregg – Taylorsville, NC

        The judge did more than that. The film cannot be shown at schools in the UK without a disclaimer saying it was political and has at least 9 major facts wrong.

      • Anonymous

        though I can put off the idealogues, with half my brain tied behind my back. You mean ideologues. You can’t even spell it, to funny. You are a clown.

        • Gregg

          I think you meant too funny.

          • Modavations

            Now the kid’s weeping on his Birkenstocks!!!!!!!!

          • Anonymous

            I did, thanks. However I can at least spell ideologues or if I was not sure spell check it if I’m going to go on how smart I am.
            I am not claiming to be superior to anyone or trying to demean their intelligence. I also do not believe that the Tornadoes are being caused by global warming which is a weather based phenomenon.
            From what I’ve read on this there is not enough study in this area to make hypothesis pro or con on the subject.

            For your reading pleasure:
            http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1206_041206_global_warming.html

            http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/

          • Modavations

            National Geo. is as biased as NPR

          • Gregg

            Virtually all recent “science” of AGW is based on the IPCC 2007 report. That report drew heavily from the CRU at East Anglica. Both of your links are examples. The report is infused with politics, cooked models, fraud and big big money. I mean UN gathered worldwide money. There was so much wrong with that report. Some of the work turned out to be based on college student homework assignments. Really. There were temperature monitors placed next to hot air conditioner compressors on top of buildings. There was also an admitted belief that exaggerations (being nice) were necessary to shock people into action. The science was not a paramount concern and the IPCC is made up of activist and bureaucrats (the “I” stands for “intergovernmental) as well as scientist. The earth has warmed (although not significantly since 1998 as admitted by the East Anglica head honcho) but the cause and the prognosis are very much still unproven. Since you are not claiming a link with tornados and because you holstered you snark gun (in regards to me anyway) I felt compelled to address your links with my honest opinion. This is despite what I just posted about getting political in the face of tragedy.

            The debate seemed to be devolving fast as have previous ones but we agree about tornados so maybe we can save the rest for another day. On point does not air until 7:00PM in my area so I have not heard the show yet. I’ll at least wait until I hear the tone set by Tom and the panel before diving in deeper. I hold out hope it will be apolitical.

          • Anonymous

            For some reason they removed my comments to which you replied.
            I’m not sure why as I was responding to the inane nonsense of that other chap. I provided links from the National Geographic Society and the National Academy of Sciences. BUR removed them.
            Why they did this is beyond me. As to the topic of the tornadoes i doubt it has anything to do with global warming as from what I read about it there is no connection between this event and climate change. There is not enough data on this to make a good hypothesis. I’m not sure why my other posts was removed other than my remarks to that other troll.

          • Gregg – Taylorsville, NC

            I looked at your links before they were removed and responded above.

            I’d venture to guess the comments were removed because of the grammar police thing and the name calling.

        • Gregg

          I think you meant too funny.

    • TomK in Boston

      It’s a cheap debate tactic to focus on “Algore” when you’re really trashing physicists and climate scientists. There’s nothing ideological about being concerned for rapidly increasing levels of CO2 caused by human activity – but it’s very ideological to deny what’s going on for the benefit of coal mining corporations.

      • Gregg

        Algore’s movie is a disgrace to physicist and climate scientist and he is the face of the AGW debate. He won the Nobel. He’s fair game.

  • Gregg

    I enjoy debunking AGW or it’s link to tornadoes as much as anyone. It’s not hard. Sometimes what is hard is keeping my mouth shut when I see the effects of propaganda materialize in blog comments. I’m not perfect.

    However, lives have been lost and others devastated. This is a true tragedy so maybe we should keep that in mind and put politics on the back burner.

    We had a 4H meeting at our horse farm last night. The kids decided unanimously to contribute $250 from their meager and hard earned treasury to a farm whose barn was leveled a few weeks ago in Sanford, NC. by a tornado. How can we help the good folks in Alabama?

  • y_gene
  • Modavations

    That’s it for me kids,class dismissed!!!!!!!!!

  • Modavations

    That’s it for me kids,class dismissed!!!!!!!!!

  • Everhart Mark109

    welcome to the afects of Global Warming

  • Mikecotton66744

    Im sorry but those scientists were a little too neat about refusing to validate the theory of global climate change with any concrete observations. A little too neat. In fact, when they did speculate, which they did on the source of high cold air in tornado formation, they were pretty quick to rule climate change out as any type of contributing factor.
    I wonder where they get their funding for all of that research they do.
    I mean, they both acknowledged climate change in the abstract, so how can there be no conection between the climate and the weather?
    “reasons we don’t have to get into right now?”. Yuck. gross.

  • http://profiles.google.com/satisnet.satisnet Kalie Mitchell

    This Terrifying Tornadoes is very Cardiac mass situation.

  • Mbiddle

    The participants of the show believe there is Global Warning or Climate Change! But right now – the scientific background on these tornadoes – has not occurred. Alabama and the surrounding area has the most deaths. They had massive tornadoes with 10s or 100s of deaths now, in 1998, 1977, 1974, 1956(?), 1931(?), 1917 etc. Where was global warming in 1917? It is not cold air, water transfer, nuclear failout etc! And by the way – Tom Grazulis was on the program and they failed to get his opinion on anything. You can do a whole show just with him. And, there are more people living in Alabama and they live in mobile homes and “gravity” homes – and this just won’t cut in when you face a tornado. There is more nocturnal tornadoes and more violent tornadoes in the South especially AR, MS, AL, GA and TN in the part they call “Dixie South of Tornado Alley.”

    Dr. Matthew Biddle
    University of Oklahoma

    • http://www.facebook.com/gregsamsa Marc Mitchell

      I’m surprised you’re a doctor of anything, but I do appreciate your ability to completely misunderstand data processing.

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