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Jihad Message Man: al-Awlaki

The FBI keeps turning up terror plots in the USA. And the threats keep going back to one American in Yemen—Anwar al-Awlaki.

In this image released Monday, Nov. 8, 2010, Anwar al-Awlaki speaks in a video message posted on radical websites. (AP Photo/SITE Intelligence Group)

It can seem almost a drumbeat lately. A young American – at a military recruiting station in Baltimore last week, at a Christmas tree-lighting in Portland, Oregon, on a subway bomb plot in Washington, D.C. – arrested and charged by the FBI with having been ready to blow up everybody in sight. 

And again and again, we’re told the inspiration goes back to one American Muslim in Yemen – Anwar al Awlaki.  It makes you wonder how many undercover agents the FBI has out there.  And what that one American in Yemen is saying.  

We look at the arrests, and al-Awlaki.

-Tom Ashbrook

Guests:

Scott Shane, national security reporter for The New York Times.

Chris Heffelfinger, researcher and analyst of militant Islam for the Combating Terrorism Center at the US Military Academy, West Point. From 2006 to 2008 he instructed the FBI on radical Islam and terrorism. His forthcoming book is, “Radical Islam in America: Salafism’s journey from Arabia to the Midwest.”

Nihad Awad, executive director and co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Muslim advocacy group.

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  • twenty-niner

    U.S. citizens worldwide killed as a result of incidents of terrorism in 2009: 9
    U.S. citizens worldwide injured as a result of incidents of terrorism: 14
    U.S. citizens worldwide kidnapped as a result of incidents of terrorism: 4

    http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2009/145700.htm

    Number of deaths from bees and wasps: 90-100

    http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/169324-overview

    I wonder if al-Awlaki is a bee trainer.

  • Brett, from Burgers’ville, Va.

    Yeah, but how many egos have been bruised by terrorism? Hmmm?

  • cory

    We should definitely fly unmanned drones over Yemen and use them to kill family members of Al-Alwaki or individuals who resemble him. That’s what civilized nations do, right?

    Leftfield, Wisconsin

  • cory

    I wonder if our reaction over the last 10 years to the attacks on 9/11 is exactly the result that the planners of the attack hoped for.

    Leftfield, Wisconsin

  • Ed H.

    Radical Islam is an example of faith without reason, while the militant atheists have reason without faith. We’re supposed to have both.

  • Drew

    The Middle East culture is going through what the Christian culture went through in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries. Our level of ridiculous then is no different than their level now. They’re just late to the game.

    And I wish they’d fold.

  • Al Dorman

    If we can put an American on a hit-list with no judicial decision, explain to me how we’re different from a police state…

  • Pancake rankin, resident of McAdenville, NC

    With his initials AAA it is no wonder our “intelligence agencies” have targeted him. He’s first in the yellow pages under terrorist.

    Osama bin Laden, if living, is retired either in El Dorado near Santa Fe or at Walker’s Point in Maine.

    Hey Bama, is it time for another Pearl Harbor, is it, is it time for another Pearl Harbor? Get the devious minds together, and cook up another Pearl Harbor. It’s good for business, and social control. (and watch out for Wickedleaks, they spread gossip)

    Holbrooke’s last words,”You gotta end this war in Afghanistan!”

    Americans, be thinking of some good “last words.”

  • http://z15.invisionfree.com/Augusta_Alternative/index.php?act=idx John Randolph Hardison Cain

    The U.S. blames Pakistan for the failed U.S. war in Afghanistan. United States is always blaming others for the backlash against its wrongheaded foreign policy that relies on U.S. military force and domination in lieu of statesmanship, diplomacy, international cooperation, international law, or coordinated police actions. The evolution of Anwar al-Awlaki’s thinking from immediately following the 9/11 attacks until he began speaking out against U.S. foreign policy makes sense to me. No radicalization is required IMO. Why is United States shocked when its illegal actions result in blowback?

  • http://z15.invisionfree.com/Augusta_Alternative/index.php?act=idx John Randolph Hardison Cain

    John Randolph Hardison Cain is from rural Jefferson County in east central Georgia.

  • http://bruceguindon.com bruce guindon

    I wonder what you would say if the terrorism was more successful, would you blame someone for allowing your safety to be compromised. and sometimes America actually gets it right but we have little control over the sovereignty of other nations. we have a tendency to view the world from our own vantage point without taking into account the others reasons for acting, we are short sighted and forget that some of the struggles that we are presently engaged in are very old disagreements that are very complicated and resist simple solutions

  • John

    Ed, reason without faith is exactly what we need.

  • Kevin

    Tom,

    Please talk about how convenient it is to have a someone (an image) like Al-Awlaki, and how it helps the FBI entrap poor, vulnerable, immigrant boys

    Also please compare/contrast Al-Awlaki to preachers like Pat Robertson, who is pretty much a mirror image of Al-Awlaki. The only difference being that Robertson advocates government violence and war, whereas Al-Awlaki has no government.

  • Ellen Dibble, Northampton, MA

    Why don’t the Sunnis in the Middle East start to see the value of making common cause with Israel? The Wikileaks seem to underscore that Iran is seen as a looming threat. It is pointed out that the hostilities between Sunni and Shiia Islam goes back to before the Middle Ages, circa 750, and is entrenched. Further, Iran is actually trying to position itself as dominant, Persia being Shiia, most of the rest of the Middle East being Sunni. (I’m not a specialist, but I think that’s it.)
    So if the jihadi idea is that America is anti-Islam because of American support for Israel, maybe this tune should change. Jihadi’s should be pro-Israel in order to achieve a balance of power in the Middle East.

  • Rex, Washington, DC

    These speeches only add fuel to the fire. Followers do his biding, their threat profile rises, and repeats.

  • Mike

    Because Israel is just as evil as Iran is perceived.

    It’s like asking the Sunnis to choose between worse and worser.

    “Jihadis”, as you call them also claim to love God. And no God loving person would support Israel for any reason.

  • http://none Dnxtlvl

    Of course none of the speaches and talk from some Americans that is anti-Muslim has nothing to do with this. ?! The Family on C Street also must be considered in the anti Muslim rhetoric. For some there must always be an enemy – whether they create the conditions or just send out press releases. Divide and conquer. Money over lives. Lets follow this war and rhetoric machine’s money trail and pull back the curtain on the wizards of oz/ emporers with no clothes.

  • Ellen Dibble, Northampton, MA

    I’d like a link to that Inspire magazine. The idea that you can declare (as jihadis apparently do) that such-and-such is at war with you, and therefore attack such-and-such — huh!
    Once you’ve attacked such-and-such, that person begins to BECOME a threat to you, if only in self-defense. You create your own enemy by attacking them.
    One lawyer to a client: “You attacked him but you didn’t kill him? He’ll make a pretty good witness against you, don’t you think?”

  • Hilton, Central Vermont

    Means, motive, and opportunity. That’s how you prove murder and that’s how you prevent it.

    Can we deny terrorists the means? Not a chance. The planet is awash in guns, explosives, flammable liquids, etc.

    Can we deny them opportunity? Not completely, unless we become North Korea. We’re an open society. No matter how tight TSA gets, no matter how hard we try, sooner or later someone will get through. We have thousands of miles of coast, hundreds of thousands shipping containers coming in, and millions of travelers.

    That leaves motivation. We can’t scare them because they are willing to die. That leaves us with a political solution in the Middle East. They want us out. Let’s teach them the meaning of “Be careful what you wish for.” Let’s reduce our demand for oil and get out. Let’s stop our blind support of Israel and negotiate a real settlement. Without those motivators Al Qaeda will become irrelevant.

  • http://cyberfumes.blogspot.com Dave Eger

    Implying that radicalization always leads to violent ends is not fair to non-violent radicals. You guys need a new word for when people are convinced that it makes more sense to train to kill than to train to talk. Perhaps militarization?

  • Steve T

    I’m tired of the Government pointing one way or at some one just to distract from facts, and deeds they have actually put into play.

    Just so they can scare you into thinking your not safe so you’ll do what ever they tell you with out question.

  • http://tombstone001.blogspot.com Mohammed N. Razavi

    Two things we need to remember, American support of oppressive regimes is also considered oppression by American, two most the anti American financing is still coming from the oil money, regardless of who is doing the talking.

  • Mike

    LOL!

    Here we go… Israel is the victim. It just sounds funny to say it.

    Israel is the CAUSE of all of this terrorism. The first suicide bombers were Israelis!! The first terror bombings in the Middle East were planted in cars, buses, and hotels by Israelis!

    For every “Jihadi” in the world, there is a Zionist militant.

    We can’t solve the problems our world faces if we fail to admit what our problems really are.

    Do you even know what the word Jihad means?

  • Ellen Dibble, Northampton, MA

    Mohammed, “American support of oppressive regimes” sounds SO COLD WAR! I thought we were pulling out of that sort of thing. Then you say “American financing is still coming from oil money.”
    “Still?” Do you mean Cold War American shenanigans were paid for by Oil? I thought it was the tax payer, and “oil” had tax BREAKS.
    What are you specifically saying?

  • hal from east boston

    It is unfortunate that a lifelong liberal and civil libertarian like myself is pressed by deadly new realities to support any reasonable measure to find Awlaki and terminate his existence,and any others who would bring slaughter to the streets of America.
    The oppression of Muslims in their native lands is partly their own fault. They have embraced the most foolproof formula for stagnation and decline ever invented by man—they have consented to be reuled by priests. Right there is the end of thought and progress, and the mainspring for suicidal fanaticism.

  • joan

    Mike you are insane

  • Ellen Dibble, Northampton, MA

    The caller from Omaha, I think, the Muslim pointed out that Muslims have to orient themselves with regard to the splinter group that claims Jihad as being counter to America.

    Jihad is not defined that way. It is something like “mission,” and teenagers do need mission. They need identity and they need group identity.

    So. How do you get a COUNTER-identity, when a wider American community keeps trying to “dress” you as a radical? Is there a TV show, Gangster Jihadis in Chicago? Showing a Counter Group that is Muslim challenging them?
    Let’s see that. Script writers, TO WORK!

  • BHA – Vermont

    Where does al-Awlaki get his ‘information’ that the US is waging war on Islam? It must be the extreme radical right wingers in the USA because it is NOT the opinion, NOR desire, of 99.9% of the citizens of this country.

    The method of his rants is no different than that of Palin and Limbaugh with respect to repeating messages that are false, hoping that people will believe them if they hear them enough (or ONLY hear that message, not the actual facts).

    The difference is that they are not advocating violence against Americans.

  • Les from Vermont

    Blaming the Muslims is becoming more and more common. As the hate speech grows, so does the gap between the have and the have-nots. Are we missing the root cause of the radicalization that we see?

  • http://cyberfumes.blogspot.com Dave Eger

    Is Inspire a dragnet?

  • Les from Vermont

    Joan,
    Mike is right. Just look at Israel building on top of the homes of those with whom they are suppossed to be making peace. The truth becomes clear quickly.

  • Mike

    Great argument, Joan.

    Google the King David Hotel.

    Next time, please provide facts and leave the insults in the schoolyard.

  • joan

    les from vermont

    Ya like you are getting all the news

  • Ellen Dibble, Northampton, MA

    Nihad Awad is also saying we need a counter-narrative, showing Islam’s jihad as a religious effort, such as aiding the poor. My word “mission” seems to fit. The Mormons take that in their own direction, world-wide. Think Elizabeth Smart in Paris. I’d like a mission like that. (Not really.) And the news didn’t specify she is Mormon. But anyway.
    I do think the Muslims in the United States could crank up the volume on the “real” jihad, which is more or less what my own jihad is (or so it seems to me), which is a more just and considerate culture and world. A more civilized world. I get as furious as any militant radical at times — for years and decades, drenching my bones — about the way things are (often as perpetrated by Republicans, but also as perpetrated by Democrats, and often as perpetrated by American corporate types, but anyway…) Yeah, I can understand the perspective of this will never get better; the world is rotten; take me to heaven where there are 99 virgins waiting for me — or whatever.
    If American Muslims can’t or won’t because Muslims don’t have access to soap opera directors or movie producers, I’d like to suggest they start to develop “contacts.” And music is always a good way of making your point. I know Islam has its limitations both as to art and as to music, but I’m just sayin’.

  • Mohamed

    Ellen Dibble,

    Jihad is nothing like “mission”. People who keep linking Jihad to some sort of “mission” are the ones that promote Islamophobia.

    Jihad means “struggle”, and there are two forms of Jihad (greater and lesser).

    Greater Jihad is the struggle within yourself. Like the struggle to become a better person, to quit smoking, or to be more faithful.

    LESSER, and I really want to stress “lesser”, jihad is the physical struggle against an enemy.

  • Les from Vermont

    Joan,
    Right back at you. Do you have better news than I do? How do you justify the raids on peaceful activist, many of them Israeli citizens. Or say, the distruction of Gaza last year. There is a great movie called, “The Lemon Tree”. It is an excelant exploration of the convoluted situtation in that part of the world. I understand that things are not cut and dry, still I know when I see oppression.

  • joan

    watch the video : “ROAD TO JENIN” BY PIERRE REHOV you can google it .

    So tell me why are the Christians all over the muslim world persecuted and exterminated? because of israel also?

  • Ellen Dibble, Northampton, MA

    Mohamed, maybe you haven’t been preached at by Christian fire-breathing preachers. They could definitely be preaching jihad. “Mission” (meaning being “sent”) can be seen as both inward, tending toward becoming a holier individual, and outward, working to make the world better.
    If “lesser” jihad involves a physical struggle against an enemy, and I were in a mosque hearing that, I’d think of certain people who make my life very difficult, certain parts of the culture that seem all mis-aligned. I’m not sure I’d say the struggle there is more “physical.” I can wrestle with “myself” without OTHERS noticing, but it is pretty physical. My nerves. My skin. My eyes. When I wrestle (bringing to bear my faith) with the world, it is not necessarily mano-a-mano (hand to hand), partly because I would mostly lose. If I want to get my way, I do better by persuasion (and that is not only more effective; it is also more likely legal).

  • Les from Vermont

    What about Palastinians forced to pass through check points in there own land? Women giving birth in the street because there are not let to pass and get to a hospital? Racheal Cory? Do you not think that this is wrong? Why do you capitalize Christian and not Muslim?

  • Mohamed

    Ellen,

    Your internal struggle to control your temper and not lash out in a physical way in the face of infuriating situations (corporate greed, vitriolic hate speech, etc.), is a prime example of the Greater Jihad. I hope God rewards you for it fully :)

    Lesser Jihad applies to specific situations of holy war in which you are engaged in physical battle against your oppressor or invader. There are very strict criteria that must be met in order for the Lesser Jihad to be valid and, therefore, rewarded by God. Otherwise, He will punish those who engage in it.

    So, unfortunately, if someone says something that upsets you, punching them in the face might feel good but will win you no points with God. You will, in fact, be failing in the Greater Jihad.

    Logic, kindness, and persuasion are the ways to go. Stay strong!

  • joan

    We go through worse checkpoints at airports.what kind of news do you read Palestinian?

  • Mike

    Checkpoints at airports are worse than Israeli checkpoints?

    Joan, you are either lying or have been lied to. Which is it?

  • Erin

    I have a friend that teaches high school math in Iowa and at their teachers meetings, administrators discuss students as “customers”! Outrageous!

  • Kevin

    Joan,

    You’re kidding right? Even right-wing Zionists don’t make that claim!!

  • Jim in Omaha

    Yes, we need a vehicle to show mid-east Muslims that we Americans mean them no harm. I suggest, for a start, that the families of George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Paul Bremer and Condoleezza Rice all move to someplace like Baghdad or Sana’a, Yemen, and live among the population that is the constituency of these radical preachers. Or perhaps Glen Beck could use his bully pulpit to recruit huge numbers of Christian Americans to do the same. FOX could make it into the best reality show ever. This would make it obvious to these violent radicals that we really mean no harm to them and just want to live in peace.

  • alex
  • alex

    That you are a conservative or a liberal , I think you would not agree to this:

    http://www.seraphicpress.com/

  • Roy Merritt

    al-Alawki is nothing more than a nuisance to the United States. The greatest threat to American democracy does not come from this individual or any of the other jihadist on the world stage. The United States has the most powerful military in the world and any potential adversary knows they could never defeat the U.S. militarily. I suspect however that our enemies and any potential enemies realize that the greatest threat to our nation is a home grown movement dedicated to the utter destruction of this nation and a point of view determined to transform this nation into what they’ve always wanted, a ruthless nation whose foreign and domestic policy is whatever a shallow group of oligarchs decide. The republican party and their rich masters hate this nation with a vehemence far more destructive than any crazed religious fanatics could ever muster. Unless the real patriots in this country open their eyes and begin to drive these monsters from our midst we will discover that we were blind to the fact that many of our most dangerous enemies were residing within our own borders. The Tea Party fools don’t realize these people are taking advantage of their blatant ignorance and using them as the point man in their endeavors. The oligarchs realize just how stupid these tea party types are and know well they can use their own brand of fanaticism in their politics. Many of these people are as consumed by Christianity as the jihadist are consumed by Islam. The comparison ends there. The oligarchs with their wealth can finance any effort by our home grown fanatics and I’m sure will one day turn to terrorism when they feel it is essential to do so.
    All they need is to rile up any number of Timothy McVeighs that are running around. And believe you me I’ve known people in this country whom I suspect would have no compunction to doing such deeds as McVeigh did. They daily consume the outright treason of people such as Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck whose duty is to instill them with hatred for their fellow citizens and most specifically the president of the United States. These traitors have no problem with perpetuating this kind of strife and division and why not the oligarchs pay them very well for such treason.

    Roy Merritt
    Wilmington, North Carolina

  • John
  • DAVID

    I was dismayed that Tom was the only one speaking with common sense. It is biased to have all guests so close on one side. Just the moderator presenting a questioning position is not enough. I have been a long time listener to NPR but the bias concerns me. Why was there not a representative by someone who thought the US was doing the right thing?
    THE FACT THAT NO ONE CHALLANGED THE REP FROM cair IS TROUBLESOME. THIS ORGANIZATION IS THE LARGEST SPEAKING FOR AMERICAN MUSLIMS BUT IT IS NOT THE MOST HONEST. a LITTLE RESEARCH CAN SHOW YOU THAT IT IS A DUBIOUS ORGANIZATION. THERE ARE MANY(NOT ALL) USING A ONE/TWO PUNCH. fIRST VIOLENT jIHAD AND NEXT LAWFUL JIHAD AND THEIR MOTIVE IS TO INTRODUCE SHIRIA LAW AND OTHER ‘SEPERATE BUT EQUAL’ CHANGES IN USA.
    NOT TO QUESTION THIS IS TO BE A DUP.i DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER TO ALL THE QUESTIONS BROUGHT UP BUT IT IS OBVIOUS THAT ALL MAJOR SIDES ARE NOT REPRESENTED ON THIS SHOW OR MOST ON NPR.
    THE COMMENTS BY ABOVE LISTENERS LEAD ME TO THINK THAT MOST OF THE LISTENERS ARE ANTI ESTABLISHMENT AND BLAME THE USA EVERY TIME. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS BUT WHY SHOULD AN ADVOCACY STATION GET ANY PUBLIC MONEY?

  • http://www.bookofzo.blogspot.com Joshua Hendrickson, Talent OR

    Where’s Millard Fillmore? I thought he’d be drawn to this discussion like a fridge to a magnet.

    This is his cup of tea, after all: a discussion of Islam which really does illustrate its dangers!

    America is hardly a blameless victim as far as terrorism goes, but criminals are criminals, and ought to be hunted down.

    I recently wrote a research paper on the Park 51 controversy; it got published in my college’s newspaper. I think I’ll post it on my blog, if anyone wants to read it. I’ll let the forum know when it’s up.

  • Ellen Dibble, Northampton, MA

    I am more troubled by the ignorance of Islam in America than the splintering of radical militants. Why? Because the violent radicals are the business of the CIA, the FBI, the police. This is especially so it such radicalism is “supposed to” be exercised in lone-wolf fashion. On the other hand, the rootedness of Islam in America is our business, since I am rooted in the same soil. So I went to a local bookstore run by the brother of a publisher who publishes widely on the subject: Interlink publishers. And bought the following: “Mecca and Main Street, Muslim Life in America After 9/11″ by Geneive Abdo; “The Arab Americans: A History,” by Gregory Orfalea; “Grape Leaves: A Century of Arab-American Poetry,” edited by Gregory Orfalea and Sharif Elmusa; “Short Arabic Plays: An Anthology,” edited by Salma Khadra Jayyusi, in translation by al-’ani, born in 1927 in Baghdad; Azzam, born in Beirut 1950, Bakri, born 1952 in Acre, Diyab, Egyptian born in 1932; al-Fagih, born 1942 in Libya; Farag, born 1929 in Alexandria; al-hakim, born 1899 in Egyp; Hamdan, born 1944, Druze born in Syria; Ikhlasi, born 1935, Syrian; and seventeen more authors (17). Oh, last but not least, “Food for our Grandmothers: Writings by Arab-American and Arab-Canadian Feminists,” edited by Joanna Kadi, South End Press, Boston, 1994, poems, artwork, essays, and of course recipes. As I sat reading and drinking coffee in their nook, the owner came in looking like Santa Claus, and offered me a helping of baklava he had just received on special order from “the largest Arab community in the United States.” “Michigan?” Yes. It is melt-in-your-mouth dates layered with mica-like pastry. I told him the publications were lacking this, that, and the other; please order it up.

  • Bush’s fault

    Let’s toast a couple million a la Harry Truman to prove that indeed we are the great satan and wait for a response. If they show some resolve, toast a few million more…sooner or later they will get the message.

  • http://tombstone001.blogspot.com MOHAMMED N. RAZAVI, DALEVILLE, AL

    Ms. Dibble, I said that most money for ANTI American propaganda is oil money, that it comes from the middle east (so much was also confirmed by Wikileaks). And yes the United States IS a supporter of illegitimate regimes in the middle east, again you can confirm this from any number of sources, we are the ones keeping the Saudi monarchy and the Egyptian cleptocracy of
    Husni Mubbarack in power, ( NPR has been doing reports on the Egyptian faux elections and earlier did a report on the power of the military industrial complex of Egypt).
    As to your later questions why don’t Sunni’ make a common cause with Israel, for one the Israelis would never ever do that and give up Palestine, that would be against their own religion to give up the land the “God gave them” read the Bible and secondly the Muslim rulers will not make peace with Israel because the threat of the on going conflict helps them stay in power by oppressing the population (sounds like home now doesn’t it) and also they buy weapons from us to defend against Israel. I know it is not at all that simple but any way I tried. Check out my blog sometimes when you are bored.
    http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/09/beyond-stupid-god-and-immortal-man.html ( about religion, mostly Islam, and mankind)

    http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2008/01/greast-farce.html ( about the farce of Arab Israeli peace)

  • Ellen Dibble, Northampton, MA

    The international weapons-makers need the business generated by so much hostilities; we make money by supplying arms to both sides, not only in Af-pak but in the Middle East?
    As to do we support dictatorships (still), I am afraid this must be true in spite of whatever billions we spend per year or per day, whatever it is, to establish islands of democracy in Iraq or near Kabul.
    We are supplying the ideology (or supporting the avatars of the ideologies) on both sides, the autocracies and the fledging democracies. And we are supplying the weaponry on both sides.
    There is a lot I’ve been hearing lately about how the military industrial complex and the bankers are the ones who will bring peace, prosperity, and stability to the world, thereby earning their extraordinary share of power and wealth. Gordon Brown, for one, has been all over the air waves, with that message. And apparently Richard Holbrooke thought American might could be what it was for the world in the last century, liberating, redeeming. Apparently this went against the grain in Washington. The military, not the diplomats, are supposed to set the course and take the lead. And his forceful diplomacy had to be backed up with a more administrative cohesion than could be achieved vis-a-vis Af-pak. But he was an American diplomat with a powerful vision and huge determination, and American centrality may have lost its last best advocate.
    So thanks for your thoughts, and the link to your site.

  • joshua

    first of all–the Portland bomber was fostered, nurtured, and financed by the FBI. This young, intelligent man could have been just another activist dissenting against the terrorism of the US government. But in order to foster fear in the American people, in order to continue a need for a complete farce of a war, they set this man up. He had no connections and no motivation or capital to accomplish even a 4th of July firecracker, but the FBI paid his rent, pushed him and pushed him and pushed him, paid him to do nothing–he would have looked for a job–and the FBI acquired the materials for a bomb and built the bomb–not the boy. Who are terrorists? The FBI. THE US gov.

    Now, this fool on the radio here is doing the same thing–trying to stir fear about Muslims and pacifists and creating an atmosphere in America that fears all dissenters–all dissenters. he does this by creating the myth that it is now all individuals you should fear. That anyone, your neighbor, could be plotting your demise.

    but we do nothing about all the people dying for lack of health care–hundreds of thousands–that’s terror–brought to you by the democrats and Republicans and the fascist monopolies that dominate your life–and treat you as cattle–TSA. TSA TSA TSA–ooh ohh–i said a bad word. Ooh–wikileaks-ooh ooh i said another bad word. Im so bad. Tape my mouth shut. Better yet–put me on a black list so i can never find a job. That’s terror!

  • Matt

    I don’t remember anyone on the panel mentioning that al Awlaki attended a meeting at the Pentagon not too long ago (FoxNews). I guess our guys in military intelligence wanted to personally tell him to “knock it off”?

  • Slipstream

    This al-Alwaki guy is a hate-monger, no question about it. I don’t like any of the things I heard him saying. When people are angry and miserable, they are prone to being influenced by this kind of stuff. I don’t like him one bit. But what is the right way to deal with someone like this?

    And just for the record – not that I am a huge supporter of conservative Israelis – but the Zionist guerrillas were not the first terrorists. There had been bombings and the like before that. Think back to the death of Archduke Franz Ferdinand for one example.

  • millard_fillmore

    Joshua,

    Have been busy with other stuff and haven’t had time to spend here. I just happened to check the website today.

    I really don’t have anything new to add here. Reading the comments, it’s the usual litany of how it’s all America’s fault, and the unsurprising taboo of not criticizing the religion that is so central to the acts of terrorists – as if those two are mutually exclusive.

    After all, when was the last time a Tibetan Buddhist blew himself up along with some Chinese soldiers as an act of defiance and to protest the injustice of occupation of Tibet? Every time one takes off his shoes and goes through the silly theater at an airport, one must curse the religion of peace – and know very well how dangerous it is to admit that publicly. The pussyfooting comments here validate it.

  • millard_fillmore

    “Jihad means “struggle”, and there are two forms of Jihad (greater and lesser).

    Greater Jihad is the struggle within yourself. Like the struggle to become a better person, to quit smoking, or to be more faithful.

    LESSER, and I really want to stress “lesser”, jihad is the physical struggle against an enemy.”
    ____

    Interesting that so many Muslims, by their actions, indulge a lot more in the “lesser” jihad rather than in the “greater” jihad. And so many terrorist outfits in Pakistan and the Middle East name themselves after Mohammad or Islam, with no criticism from Muslims themselves. I guess one mustn’t cause fitna by being critical of fellow-Muslims indulging in jihad.

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In this May 15, 2014, file photo, Senate Veterans Affairs Committee Chairman Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., speaks on Capitol Hill in Washington, during a committee hearing to examine the state of Veterans Affairs health care. (AP)

Will he run for president? We’ll ask Vermont’s Independent U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders.

 
Jul 21, 2014
Toys and flowers are placed on the charred fuselage at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 near the village of Hrabove, eastern Ukraine, Sunday, July 20, 2014. (AP)

The United States and Russia after the downed plane. We’ll unpack the politics and latest news. Plus: the latest from Gaza.

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Our Week In The Web: July 11, 2014
Friday, Jul 11, 2014

As we prepare for a week of rebroadcasts, we reflect on Facebook posts, misplaced comments and the magic of @ mentions. Internet, ASSEMBLE!

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Two Former Senators, One Fix For US Democracy?
Thursday, Jul 10, 2014

Former US Senators Tom Daschle and Olympia Snowe joined us today with a few fixes for American political inaction.

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Future Radio Interns Of America: On Point Wants YOU!
Thursday, Jul 10, 2014

On Point needs interns for the fall. Could YOU be one of them?

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