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Cleaning up oil washed ashore at Pensacola Beach, Florida., June 23, 2010. (AP)

Cleaning up oil washed ashore at Pensacola Beach, Florida, June 23, 2010. (AP)

A deal on financial regulation.  No deal on extending unemployment benefits, and thousands of out-of-work Americans affected.

General McChrystal is out, General Petraeus is in.  Now what for U.S. policy in Afghanistan?  Big decisions for the Commander-in-Chief.

More bad news on home sales.  The U.S. survives to play again at the World Cup.  And at Wimbledon, it was a never-ending tennis match for the record books.

This Hour, On Point: Our weekly news roundtable goes behind the headlines.
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Guests:

Tom Gjelten, correspondent for NPR.

Betsy Stark, former business correspondent for ABC News.

Jack Beatty, On Point news analyst.

 
  • Matt

    Could the panel comment on a recent NBC/Wall Street Journal poll that found Sarah Palin has majority of those surveyed view an endorsement from Palin in a campaign as a clear negative.

    Also of note: Palin’s favorable/unfavorable rating is upside down at 29% to 43%.

    Have we, the public and media, made too much of the tea party movement?

    Thanks Tom and Jack, I sincerely cherish you.

  • informed American

    51% of voters disapprove of Obama’s performance as president. (Rasmussen)

  • Matt

    Rasmussen is a right-leaning pollster and the bias manifests itself in their poll results. SurveyUSA and Pew are much more accurate.

    My only point is that the tea-party may get much more attention than deserved, a small person casting a long shadow.

  • Brett

    “…a recent NBC/Wall Street Journal poll…found…[that a] majority of those surveyed view an endorsement from [Sarah] Palin…as a clear negative [in a political campaign]. -Matt

    Well, mostly. It depends whom Palin is endorsing and from what state they are campaigning. Nikki Haley in South Carolina got a boost in popularity from a Palin endorsement. Those South Carolinians eat up that Palin/Tea Party rhetoric!

  • Brett

    “51% of voters disapprove of Obama’s performance as president.” -informed American

    i.A -This must mean that 49% of voters are socialists!

  • jeffe

    I wonder how the Republicans will fare in the fall now that they stopped extensions on unemployment benefits.

  • CHRIS M

    Apparently, their goal is to crush the middle class and totally trash the economy, so people will get mad at the Dems and vote for them. Do they think people don’t pay attention to their actions in this mess? Oh wait, most people are more interested in “American Idol” or “Real Housewives”(is that totally mis-named or what??) than what is going on under their noses. Never mind. :D

  • jeffe

    Seems like the new financial bill just passed is more about loopholes than rules and reform. There seems to be little in it to control how wall street does business.
    Special interest has prevailed yet again.

    Where is the financial transactions tax?

  • http://politywonk.livejournal.com Elizabeth

    That South Carolina result really needs more examination. If lots of Republicans crossed over to vote for Alvin Green in that primary, how did that affect Nikki Haley’s competition? Was the DeMint machine behind both outcomes, or did it manipulate the Senate race with a willingness to let the gubernatorial one go where it would? DeMint clearly didn’t want to have to run against a legitimate Democrat candidate, so how does that affect the Tea Party interpretations?

  • JP

    Rasmussen? One might as well quote a Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh poll.

  • Robby

    I hope that the unemployed take note of who is denying them benefits. Perhaps some of these “republicans” should become unemployed.

  • JP

    Rasmussen exists only to rile up the right into thinking their positions are actually popular in America.

    The non-partisan polls show that the right’s views are steadily decreasing in popularity, and conservatives and their postions consistently have the approval of less than a third of America… typically in the 20-29% range.

    The Tea-bagger Party, representing some 10-14% of America, is relevant only because the media loves to depict America as more conflicted than it actually is.

  • CHRIS M

    Gee, don’t you know the unemployed are just lazy entitled slobs who could find a job if they REALLY wanted to, you know, working as gardeners, or laborers for the rich for minimum wage. Who cares if that is not enough to support their families, any job is better than no job right??? Dead-beats that they are.

    How about we talk about how job recruiters are bypassing people who are unemployed like they have the plague. Because you KNOW its their fault they lost their jobs, couldn’t possibly be the fail policies of the recent past, right. :(

  • Matt

    Any mention of the Al Gore story? Any mainstream media want to report on that? Don’t disappoint me NPR, that’s why I listen everyday

  • JohnP

    I can’t believe the democrats refused to pay for the unemployment benefits and because of it put a lot of people off of the government gravy

  • JohnP

    I wish our legislators would have read the 2000 page financial bill before voting on it.

    One thing is for sure. This bill if it was in effect 5 years ago wouldn’t have prevented the recent financial crash and it will not prevent the next one either.

    Another example of blind legislation.

    DODD: ‘No one will know until this is actually in place how it works’…

  • CHRIS M

    I can’t believe the democrats refused to pay for the unemployment benefits and because of it put a lot of people off of the government gravy

    Posted by JohnP

    see you have your “talking points” working early this morning – anything to deflect what the Rebups are actually doing – I guess cutting 130 of 180m from the bill wasn’t enough slash & burn for them – instead let’s leave the people who lives their policies ruined high & dry. That will teach them!!!

  • JohnP

    Matt,

    There is no Al Gore story just like there are not thousands of climate scientists that believe the Sun is the primary driving force behind natural global warming & global cooling.

  • Nathan Jones

    Please tell the listenership what the banks have already done or have planned to blunt the effects of the financial regulation reform. The politicans, the pundits, and their allies in the media always brag about how wonderful new financial reforms will be, but never seem to inform the public about what new procedures and fees the banks have planned for the consumers. The banks have already eliminated free checking accounts where I reside. I do not believe that the banks will remain idle and just accept the new reforms.

  • John

    Thanks to Jack for pointing out that it was the Republicans who killed the bill, not as Jane said, that the Democrats were giving up on the bill.

    Please rotate the guest hosts more (especially on topics concerning politics, the economy, foreign policy, etc).

  • JohnP

    Unemployment benefits don’t create jobs!

    If anything they prevent jobs from being created.

    Why work when you have unlimited unemployment benefits. Look to Europe to see how their generous unemployment benefits treat the economy.

    If we still counted unemployment using the same metrics we used in the 80′s the unemployment rate would be about 20%+/-1

  • JohnP

    The Republicans only held up the bill because the Dems refused to pay for it.

    No more blank checks!

  • Marc

    Do the republicans get any credit at all for thinking long term of the national debt? Given the poll numbers on this issue (compared to jobs), it’s hard to see this as an election winner. It’s especially hard when the media can have such a field day showing the sad stories of all the people out of work who’s benefits are disappearing. I think very little of both sides of Congress, but this does appear to take some courage.

  • JohnP

    How does Obama define success in Afghanistan? Iraq? If he has no definition of success he should not fight a war he doesn’t know how to win. Bring our boys home!

  • CHRIS M

    Please JohnP tell us exactly where jobs can be created. Out of thin air perhaps? We no longer make anything in this country – big business sent everything overseas. I didn’t see any of the “Big People” lose their jobs when they crashed the economy, just the expendable “Small People”.

  • Matt

    Eighty-five percent of the debt came under Republican presidents. Reagan doubled the debt and Bush II more than doubled it. Republicans didn’t complain then. The only reason they complain now is that the Ds are in control. True, both sides should spend less, but this is an emergency. I’m an ambitious engineer w/ a Master degree, but I’ve been off for 15 months and have applied to 324 jobs. I NEED the unemployment insurance to be turned back on. It doesn’t keep me from working ($269 / week? Give me a break!); it keeps me from losing my house.

  • Steve T

    @Chris M: very astute sarcasm. ;)

    Just hold on to your seats, this is just the start!

    Nothing has been done for the American People, but a lot has been done to Americans.

    Let vote for a stimulus package for other country’s
    Answer: Yea

    Unemployment for those who paid with their jobs and livelihoods, through no fault of there own, for Banks who are now wallowing in our money.
    Answer: NAY

    Lets’ spend more money on war, or I know! lets start sending the unemployed to fight the war. That’s a win win situation.

  • Dave Lashua

    In reply to why work when you have unlimited unemployment benefits , because unemployment is less than half of what you were paid at your last position! I’ve been out of work for over 10 months and would gladly take a position that paid less than my last job. I’ve been out searching on a daily basis and send out at least 30-50 resumes a week to companies all across the country.
    Just wait till the benefits stop and see how many more homes go into foreclosure and how many more homes will go underwater because of the additional glut that will present.
    Maybe its time to have the people who are unemployed or underemployed march on Washington and see if the republicans want to hear from 10 to 20 percent of the population in the US.

  • JP

    Yes JohnP,

    Why would anyone work when unemployment pays 25% of what they WERE earning as productive members of society?

    They’d much rather live on the government dole, living at less than half the poverty level… that way they’ll be sure to eventually lose their homes, they won’t have to enjoy cable TV or ever going to the movies or out to eat, their children will never have to go to college, and they can buy all their clothes at Goodwill.

    … it’s so much more appealing than actually working for a decent wage.

  • jeff

    why does Salazar get a free pass on misleading conclusions of the peer review in order to justify the moratorium on drilling? also why does he get a free pass on fixing the regulatory arm of MMS now BOE when he walkedinto the Interior Secratary’s job with a speech about ‘a new sheriff in town’ 15 months ago?

  • AJNorth

    Is McChrystal Obama’s MacArthur? There are obvious similarities, but even greater differences. Bottom line: McChrystal embarrassed himself (with the assistance of subordinates), committing professional suicide. This buck stops with him.

    The ONLY germane question is what part of Afghanistan being the “graveyard of empires” do our “leaders” not comprehend?

  • ken smith

    Salazar lied in the recent court proceeding when he claimed that a number of experts had recommended a moratorium. The judge criticized the government for deliberately lying in its brief. The ends justify the means for Salazar. The fact is that Congress and MMS failed to closely monitor BP. For years they all knew that BP was a mess. BP had hundreds of violations compared to the other oil companies drilling in the Gulf. Congress knew that MMS was a pit. They practiced deliberate ignorance. It is a sickness of the elite in this country. They do not want the people to know the facts, and instead combine with their apologists and allies to confuse and to lie to the public. It is cynical and deceitful to enact laws and then brag to the people that they are protected and then secretly exempt people and companies from the law’s requirements. It happens all the time. The media remains silent. Fortunately some of the people are no longer going to accept the BS and lies any longer from the politicians and their apologists.

  • http://n/a benjamin page

    Jane, before one of the breaks, asked guests about the Democrats (sic) abandoning the extension of unemployment benefits. All guests in one way or another indicated that it was Republican opposition (plus 1 Demnocrat)that gave the Dempcrats no alternative. Then after the break Jane returned to pick up one more guest comment on what she AGAIN referred to as the Democrats’ abandonment of the extension. WHY? The first time may have been permissable, but to repeat it after all of her guests had contradicted it?? Did she for some reason decide to stick to pre-written text (unworthy of a host of her calibre); do the opinions of her guests count for little in what she wanted to say on that topic? a political bias?? I hope not, but what is one to think. McChrystal is out because of ill-chosen wording in ill-chosen places. A parallel?

  • John

    I think she sticks to her script. She rarely asks thoughtful follow-up questions and often shows that she lacks a depth of understanding. She hops from one guest to another rather than engage them responding to what the previous speaker has just said.

  • Brett

    The moratorium would affect 33 exploratory offshore drilling rigs in all of US waters–that’s 33 of the exploratory offshore rigs only, in ALL of US waters. It would not affect any offshore rigs in production. I might add that these 33 exploratory rigs are for deep water drilling only. To put some perspective on the 33 rigs, there are over 3800 deep water production rigs in the Gulf of Mexico alone.That’s 33 compared to several thousand; these are rigs searching for oil compared to rigs producing oil; these are rigs drilling using the same methodology as the one involved in the Gulf disaster; these are rigs with the same lack of response plans as the one that caused the disaster in the Gulf.

    I’ve heard conservative pundits and politicians make statements that anywhere from tens of thousands of jobs to hundreds of thousands of jobs will be lost as a result of the moratorium. I think not; maybe thousands of jobs, at most, temporarily.

    The judge from Louisiana who blocked the six-month moratorium, Judge Martin Feldman, has financial holdings in several companies related to oil production. He had stock in Transocean and Haliburton but sold those last year, otherwise he would have been recused from presiding…but still.

    It is important to note that Judge Feldman presided over another case involving Louisiana residents who sued a president of the New Orleans Home Builders Association. The president used money he had assessed against the residents, after hurricane Katrina, for personal purposes instead of improving their subdivision, as he had promised. Judge Feldman dismissed the lawsuit.

  • William

    It is good to see the Democrates shut down another extension of unemployment payments. There is nothing they can cut from the budget pay for it and President Obama instructed them to utilize “pay-go”.

  • S. R. Snook

    Dear Mr. Ashbrook:

    I thought you might be interested in the following musings. You may contact me by telephone at (805) 483-5146, although it is most likely a FAX machine will answer. However, I am more likely to be near the phone and able to answer if you should call after about 10 pm. If you do so and get the FAX, please try again in about five minutes, and again five minutes later. [You may have caught me answering a call of nature, who, when she calls, does not like to be put on hold.]

    I have written a couple of tax proposals, such as a tax at a 100% rate on the expenditures for lobbying (See “Three New Taxes”, below.), and also a 100% tax on “speculative gains,” which are often called “capital gains,” on the basis that the owner does nothing to increase the value of an asset, but simply holds it and benefits from it while societal pressures cause its price to increase, so it is society which should have the benefits of any and all such profits. However, there would be two exceptions: When a property, such as newly developed real estate, or an initial issue, such as that to a venture capitalist, of a stock, which has not yet been available for purchase by the general public, is sold [for the very first time] by its original owner(s). These exceptions would encourage investment in new construction projects, and venture capital financing of new businesses. Of course, it would also have the interesting side effect of making inflation quite undesirable!

    Above is one of three elements of a tax code I came with, which I fitted [in regular size type] on the “back of a postcard,” the entire code, not just the return to be filed, as is so often the ultimate form promised by legislators. I shall expound upon this later if you would be interested.

    Back in 1979[! ], I wrote and had printed a petition to tie the salaries of legislators and top government officials, including President and judges, to inflation—INVERSELY, so a 5% increase in the cost of living would result in a reduction of 5% in salaries of the highest paid government officials and elected persons. And it would be cumulative! And better than term limits!

    THREE NEW TAXES

    I would like to propose three new taxes, the revenues of which would fund “public” campaign financing:

    1. I believe there should be a tax of at least 100% on compensated lobbying expenditures.

    Compensated lobbying would include any expenditure made by one party to induce or encourage a second party to advance the agenda, in the widest possible interpretation of the words, of the first party with any government agency or employee. It would include, for example, hiring a bus to transport people to a rally or demonstration, or refreshments provided to people invited to a meeting to “discuss” some governmental function, which could reasonably be expected to result in some of the attendees intervening on behalf of the party providing the refreshments, and the costs of hiring the meeting hall, etc. It would include the costs of printing up and mailing “petitions” or letters to be forwarded to government, or suggesting one should write such a letter, and any costs associated with obtaining signatures for such petitions or letters. It would include the costs associated with phone banks and other efforts to induce others to advance the cause of the first party. Advertising, such as “Harold and Louise,” or more direct messages, would be so taxed as well. (We might even be able to tax the pronouncements of the Rush Limbaughs, and Glenn Becks. [Not likely.])

    About the only thing that would not be so taxed would be the cost of a stamp for a personal letter to a governmental representative, agency, or employee, or the cost of a personal call or telegram addressing some direct concern of the sender. In other words, the individual actually approaching the employee, agency, or representative, would not be taxed on his expenditures, rather only the expenditures aimed at getting him to do so to advance the agenda of another person or entity, even if the individual shares the concerns of the party spending the money. Taxed expenditures would also include attorneys’ fees unless they arose directly as a result of the drafting and/or negotiation of an actual contract, but not excepting the jockeying for a contract, or arose in an action in a court, or a situation which could reasonably be expected to lead to an action in a court; this provision is to be very narrowly interpreted and very strictly enforced! So let the Supreme Court allow corporations, unions, and wealthy individuals to “speak” as much as they want, [I really think that organizations in no way approach human status, so they are not entitled to any of the rights guaranteed individuals, or any privileges or powers which are not specifically granted under the legislation which creates the corporation or organization. Congress could simply redefine the concept of incorporation and so restrict organizations in the new authorizing language.], but tax them heavily should they choose to spend their monies in such fashion. This tax would apply equally to individuals as well as organizations, so it is non-discriminatory.

    The entity making the expenditure would be responsible for paying the tax, as a purchaser is responsible for paying a sales tax, but, if the spender fails to pay the tax, it will be levied upon the person or entity doing the lobbying. This would mean that a lobbyist would be working for nothing if his client failed to pay the tax. The tax would be collected by the recipient of the monies at the time of the expenditure, again just like a sales tax.

    This tax would at least double the costs of hiring lobbyists and should also include lobbying expenditures by state and local governments, since they are competing for a portion of the general funds paid by all Federal taxpayers. Thus it may actually lead to a decrease in Federal government spending. And if it doesn’t significantly reduce the influence of lobbyists, it can always be raised, perhaps to 500 to 1000%, although lobbyists wouldn’t much like it. But the man in the street would absolutely love it!

    2. The second tax would be assessed at the same 100% rate and would apply to broadcast political advertisements of less than 300 seconds duration. The 300 second figure would just about insure that a candidate or interest group would actually say something which might help a citizen decide how to vote, rather than the negative sound bites which we have heard so often over the last few years. People would still be allowed to air negative ads, but 300 seconds of negativity would be extremely hard to sustain. Besides encouraging substantial communication in political advertising, this tax might also decrease the number of political ads in any election, something the normal voter would indeed cheer!

    3. The third new tax would also levy at a rate of 100% the expenditures or contributions of any individual, including unions and corporations, which exceeded the current limit on individual political contributions now set by Congress, whether the expenditure or contribution was intended to advance or impede any candidate or any issue to be voted upon in any legislative body or during any election of officials, from the first instance of a candidate declaring for any office, or the issue being introduced in some legislative body, including a committee working in conjunction with the legislative body or for the executive branch.

    And I have laid out another inflation-related proposal: That Cost-Of-Living-Adjustments for social security and government pensions be equitable, such that one calculates the total expected cost of a percentage COLA, as is done presently, reduces it by some reasonable percentage [say 20%] and then splits the remainder equally among all the recipients, so that each person receives exactly the same amount in dollars as the next fellow. Those at the top end of the scale would receive a lesser percentage, but they have less need of it, while those at the bottom, who could really use it, would receive a greater percentage. But it would be hard for the top-enders to complain very loudly, since everyone would receive exactly the same dollar increase!

  • Bob Jones

    If the Congress wishes to enact new legislation, then Congress should provide the money to pay for the program that the legislation creates. Pretty simple concept.

  • John

    Pretty simplistic concept.

  • Brett

    Dearest all you Karl Rove wannabe propagandists here today,

    H.R. 4213 [which would have extended expiring deadlines for existing unemployment benefits and COBRA health care subsidies until November 30, 2010; other provisions in the bill would have extended tax breaks and credits, and they would have increased taxes on hedge fund managers and venture capitalists; there were also provisions to extend the current rate of Medicare payments to doctors] went back to the Senate for cloture yesterday (From opencongress.org):

    Republicans voting Aye: 0
    Democrats voting Aye: 55
    Republicans voting Nay: 40
    Democrats voting Nay: 1
    Independents voting Yea: 2
    Independents voting Nay: 0
    57-Ayes; 41-Nays

    One Republican and one Democrat each did not vote. Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska was the one “nay” vote from the Democrats. Sanders of Vermont and Old Joe Lieberman were the “aye” voting Independents. And, as you can see, not one Republican voted for this bill…not one.

    The cons and pubs said they would have voted for the bill if it were paid for by existing stimulus funds (though, haven’t we heard them say before they would vote for a bill if this were added or that were covered, blah, blah, blah, then voted “nay” anyway?), but there is no indication from any congressional pub that this would have changed the voting outcome. You cons and pubs want to say the defeat was the Democrats fault, that they “refused to pay for the unemployment benefits.” This is such twisted propaganda; it is like saying that the pubs who voted for the Medicare prescription drug plan in 2003 refused to pay for prescriptions for seniors.

    Which Republicans suggested specific spending cuts to cover the bill? Which Democrats said they would refuse to pay for the bill if a reasonable cut were suggested?

  • Bob Johnston

    GALLUP: Conservatives outnumber liberals 2-1…

    November 2010 is but 5 months away.

  • Meg Wire

    I just heard Barney Frank finally admit on NPR that the cause of the sub prime home mortgage crisis was lending money to people who could not pay the money back. Tom Ashbrook argued for months that that was not the cause of the home mortgage crisis. The Community Reinvestment Act was a bust. Pressure was put on banks by Janet Reno, Barack Obama, and others to force banks to loan money to people who were unqualified financially for the loans.

  • Brett

    In the Gallup Polls, from 1993-2002, of the people polled, 40% identified as moderate, 38% as conservative, and 19% as liberal. In the recent 2010 poll, roughly 35% identify as moderate, 42% as conservative, and 20% as liberal.

    If this reflects anything it’s that the percentage of people with moderate views is shrinking, and the people who were moderate in their views are becoming more ultra conservative, with people who hold liberal views virtually staying the same but with a very slight increase. This fits in with the changing Republican party’s “big tent” inclusiveness that is shrinking, becoming more exclusionary. More moderate Republicans are being alienated from the GOP, leaving many supporters of conservatism in a position of being disenfranchised.

    The recent Gallup polls reflect a changing Republican party. 72% of Republicans polled identify themselves as conservative (since 2002 this has increased by 10 percentage points), 24% identify themselves as moderate Republicans (as opposed to 31% back in 2002), while 3% identify themselves as liberal Republicans (down from 6% on 2000).

    Independents: 44% considered themselves moderate in 2000; now, only 41%. In 2000, 29% considered themselves conservative; now, 36%. In 2000, 21% considered themselves liberal; now, 19%. Among independents, it appears the moderate faction of people who call themselves independent voters has shrunk, as well.

    We have a shrinking middle class; we also have a louder voice among neo-conservative factions, e.g., Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Palin, the Tea Party, etc.

  • NH Republican

    Rasmussen is a “right-wing poll”? Was it that in 2008, too? In the 2008 Election only two polls got it exactly right regarding the Presidential Election. Pew had it right with Obama winning 52 to 46. The other poll? Rasmussen!! So much for that nonsense.

  • Bush’s fault

    Accurate observation, Brett…as I’ve said, the tea party is a gateway for those previously excluded from politics by the “elite”.

    Anyhoo…not a good day for the un-underemployed. If you’re unemployed at 40, forget it…your career has stalled and you need to reinvent yourself for a new career path, probably at less money. It happened to me in the mid 80′s and I survived…actually, life got better. And contrary to Peter from yesterday, you might try a bit of prayer…like chicken soup for a cold, it couldn’t hoit.

    Take care

  • Brett

    “That South Carolina result really needs more examination. If lots of Republicans crossed over to vote for Alvin Green in that primary, how did that affect Nikki Haley’s competition?” -Elizabeth from 9:20am

    As was stated on the show today, the Palin rubber stamp of approval may help certain neo-conservatives in Red states in primaries and run-offs, but it may be a detriment in general elections. Haley faces a tough race for governor in SC. Her Democratic opponent in the general election will be Vincent Sheheen. The Chamber of Commerce has endorsed Sheheen. Many political fixtures in SC politics have endorsed Sheheen. Haley’s soundbite/stumping approach to politics may make her popular, but she will have to play ball with more than style.

    The Alvin Greene phenomenon was very weird (only in SC!) but if there were some Republican shenanigans behind it, it’s hard to say what the game was.(The Alvin Greene phenomenon may have served to give Haley more momentum.) If anything, I think the Republicans think they have a real player in Haley, and they may; I never underestimate how readily voters can be swayed by a pretty face or the new flavor of the month, as it were.

    I don’t see the average SC voter as being a great voting strategist or anything. I saw clips of voters saying they saw Greene’s name on the primary ballot and didn’t like any of the others; and, although they didn’t know who he is, they voted for him. I saw one clip where a woman said she liked Al Greene’s (the soul singer) music and spirituality, so she voted for the candidate with his namesake!

    I just wonder if people will actually buy style over substance to the extent Haley offers. Of course, we are talking about South Carolina, after all…

  • Brett

    “…the tea party is a gateway for those previously excluded from politics by the “elite”.” -Bush’s fault

    This may be true, but is populism anything new? And, are the political figures who engage in populist rhetoric to pander to people who feel disenfranchised really providing people with anything of substance? Or, is this just a way for political figures of marginal potential to develop good governing abilities to step into the arena and gain power? Also, do the media outlets that offer sensationalized and overtly biased “news” slants serve to inform or distort and obfuscate?

  • JP

    “…the tea party is a gateway for those previously excluded from politics by the “elite”.” -Bush’s fault

    That’s moronic.

    These are EXACTLY the people who voted for Cheney/Bush, and for the “Repugnican Devolution”… hardly excluded from politics.

    They’re all old and white, and they’ve been participating in politics regularly since they voted for Ron Reagan.

  • Dave Eger

    So did Obama fire him, or did McChrystal resign first? I think that makes a difference.

  • david

    Over the years it has been sad to see Onpoint slide further and further to the left. By doing so it has become the haven for the far left and the anti-conservatist.
    I can remember the Russian leader Premiere Nikita Khrushchev of the former Communist Soviet Socialist Republic say: “We will destroy you from within!”
    America is reaching a crossroad in history. Will she take the right road or end up as just another nation that looks, talks and acts like the rest?????
    There are groups present in our country in growing numbers, that want America as we know it gone.
    Their presence at protest rallies is alarming.
    We are becoming a fractured nation of competing interests.
    Freedom was gained by the sacrifice and blood of millions of Americans, that freedom is being sold by people who want nothing but money and POWER!!!!!!

  • http://www.beccar.wordpress.com EugeniaRenskoff

    Hello, I will not feel that justice has been done until I get my money back. Because of mortgage fraud, predatory lending and foreclosure, i have suffered greatly and am still in finacial pain. No reform can cure that. Eugenia Renskoff

  • Alex

    “Hello, I will not feel that justice has been done until I get my money back. Because of mortgage fraud, predatory lending and foreclosure, i have suffered greatly and am still in finacial pain. No reform can cure that.”

    Did somebody hold a gun to your head and told you that either your signature or your brains will be on that mortgage?

  • Brett

    Alex,
    While I don’t know any specifics about the events that prompted the foreclosure on Eugenia’s home, I have noticed that she periodically comments here at On Point’s forum and has also intimated a current situation which includes extended homelessness and genuine prolonged despair. The website to which she has provided a link contains some of her writing; the entries indicate such a dire situation. I am sincerely sorry for her predicament and hope she can somehow pull herself out of whatever it has been that caused her spiral downward.

    I probably wouldn’t have phrased my comment to her the way you have, particularly because I have some sense of her current predicament. I also simply do not know what lead to her situation…judge not lest ye be judged, that sort of thing.

    Anyway, however, I will say I am in complete agreement with the overall general opinion you’ve expressed in your comment.

    Perhaps the unscrupulous lenders were the main culprits contributing to the collapse of the housing market, but it was, is and always will be the home buyer’s responsibility to attend to his/her own finances; this includes having at least some basic knowledge of the responsibilities of home ownership. The buyer needs to understand the basics of, say, fixed-rate mortgages vs. adjustable-rate mortgages. Having some basic understanding of one’s own budgetary needs toward affordable housing would be crucial, as well, i.e., how much can one afford to pay for a mortgage each month based on one’s income. Considerations for one’s job stability should also be a factor in considering purchasing a home. Other costs of home ownership should also be considered, e.g., insurance, utilities, maintenance costs, etc.

    I believe it is also important for a home buyer to have some knowledge of how to sell a home and when one should consider selling one’s home. Keeping an eye on the market over, say, a decade, including housing market trends and the general trends in the economy (and how those can not be extricated from each other) is very important to understand for one to truly accept the responsibility of home ownership.

    All too often during the housing bubble, lenders told home buyers they were qualified for a mortgage and not to worry about affordability. But, for the home buyer to not have questioned any of the process and to not have had the basic common sense to know that , for example, making fifteen dollars an hour is not a safe and secure income for a mortgage on a $200,000 house (especially knowing one needs to eat, pay utilities and provide for one’s transportation on top of paying a mortgage), was, simply, irresponsible!

  • greg

    Great post brett,

    “Freedom was gained by the sacrifice and blood of millions of Americans, that freedom is being sold by people who want nothing but money and POWER!!!!!!”

    Thank you Mr. Reagan

  • greg

    Week in the news

    “UN chief Ban Ki-moon has said the plan to demolish Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem to make way for a tourist park is illegal and unhelpful.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10400282.stm

    Knocking down Palestinian homes to make way for a Israeli tourist park how low can you go.

  • Newt Gingrich

    @ “un”informed American

    Don’t know the poll you’re looking at, but:

    Obama:
    Gallup 46/46
    Rasmussen Reports 49/50
    Newsweek 48/46
    NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 45/48
    Pew Research 48/43
    CBS News/NY Times 47/43
    CNN/OpinionResearch 50/48
    Fox 50/47

    Palin (Co-leader of Republcian party with Rush Limbaugh)
    NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll 41/55
    Pew Research/Nat’l Journal Congressional Poll 40/51
    CBS News/New York Times Poll. 30/45
    CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll 39/55
    Washington Post Poll. 37/55
    Quinnipiac University Poll 33/51
    AP-GfK Poll 42/51

  • david

    Them darn old teaparty members rioted in the streets of Toronto at the summit this weekend. Bad bunch of terrorists they are as depicted by the left!
    Liberalism always fails in the end.

  • Francis Marion

    ‘RECOVERY SUMMER’ CONTINUES…
    Consumer Confidence Plummets in June…
    European stocks plunge on growth worries…
    Dow down to 9900

    Hope and change
    Hope and change
    Hope and change
    Hope and change
    (keep repeating until unconscious)

    Did you catch the tea party protestors in Toronto at the G8 and at the G20?

    Liberalism always fails. Always.

  • jimmy smithson

    Asked if she’s a ‘legal progressive,’ Kagan says: Huh?…

    Hey progressives, Kagan doesn’t even recognize you.

  • S. R. Snook

    To Bob Jones & John:

    Bob, I would like to better understand your comment: What particular laws would have provoked your observation?

    To both of you: Yes, my proposals are extremely simple, and perhaps even simplistic. I would appreciate your specific criticisms regarding each proposal, or your suggested improvements. Also, I would really like to see some extended discussion of my submission: Good or Terrible? Common sense or pipe dream? ETC.

  • Larry Lentz

    ‘DAILY KOS’ ADMITS PUBLISHING FRAUDULENT POLLS…

    Plans Suit Against Firm…

    Fraud, lies, dishonesty, and corruption. Just another day for libs and dems at the office.

  • Rog Gault

    DEBT SOARS TO HIGHEST LEVEL SINCE WWII…

    PRIVATE SECTOR SEES WEAKER JUNE JOBS…

    Sputtering…

    Dow Loses 10% in Q2…

    Fed Officials Express Caution on Outlook, Avoid Talk of Further Stimulus…

  • S. R. Snook

    Jeffe:

    I came across your “Where is the financial transactions tax?” just today. You might like my post of 25 June. Please let me know if it would meet your requirements.

    Plus, I would really like to see some discussion of my proposals. Honest!

    SRS

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