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Yemeni people walk near to Bab el-Yemen in the old part of San'a, Yemen, on Jan. 5, 2010. (AP)

Yemeni people walk near to Bab el-Yemen in the old part of San'a, Yemen, on Jan. 5, 2010. (AP)

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Yemen is the Arab world’s poorest country. It’s got two civil wars, a corrupt government, a major water shortage, guns all over, a surplus of Islamic militants — and it’s running out of oil.

And, oh yes, it’s a favorite retreat for Al Qaeda.

The Christmas Day would-be bomber says he got his training there. American missiles are falling there. And U.S. Special Forces are on the ground.

Is this the next American war zone? Is there a better way? This hour, On Point: an up-close look at what’s going on in Yemen.


Joining us from Princeton, N.J., is Gregory Johnsen. A Yemen expert and Ph.D. scholar at Princeton University, he has travelled and researched extensively in Yemen, has advised the U.S. and British governments on that country, and has contributed to such publications as the Christian Science Monitor and West Point’s CTC Sentinel.

Joining us from Dubai is Riad Kahwaji, founder and general manager of the Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis, a think tank with clients that include governments in the region, the U.S. military and defense industry, as well as international oil firms and banks. He is also the Middle East Bureau Chief for Defense News and was Middle East Correspondent for Jane’s Defense Weekly from 1999 to 2001.

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  • Steve Fernandez

    With respect to the question of whether Yemen becomes another US war zone, it should be noted that President Obama’s approval of support for bombings in Yemen, make it clear that the US is already engaging in war there (Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/19/world/middleeast/19yemen.html).

    My question however, gets to the unquestioned acceptance of the distorted notion of dual nature of humanity. Why is is that that the lives of US (and western European) citizens are considered sacred, while the lives of others are not. When US forces (whether in collaboration with others or not) kill innocent civilians, as in the US supported killing of 23 children and 17 women in Abyan, Yemen (source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jyZ4yhVqAu5yqaNFXVY9748IMsNwD9CL8KF80), this is taken as collateral damage or some other euphemism. Yet, when an individual kills CIA agents engaged in war in Afghanistan, that individual is referred to as a terrorist?

  • nd studholme

    Please refrain from the use of the word WAR to describe the Police Actions that are engaged by our troops. Yemen, like Afghanistan, will legally be a Police Action, not a WAR. The difference is critical, and any investigative journalist should attempt to be accurate in the use of such terms. The “use of military force” is ALL that has been authorized by Congress. Calling the resulting engagement a war does not make it a war, and doing so is journalistically irresponsible.
    It is understandable why politicians would like to call police actions wars, because a police action is short on criteria defining victory, and far too open ended to be politically acceptable. Just call the action a WAR, and the question is begged: it will end when we are “victorious”. Besides, at nation at WAR is far more tolerant of power wielded by the executive than when the commander and chief is bent on playing cops and robbers. Imagine the state of affairs if all those “enemy combatants” are really just “criminals”. Better we elevate the criminals to the lofty status of soldiers than to admit the TRUTH: the acts of 9/11 were as criminal as they were horrendous, and NOT an act of WAR.
    Still think that we are at WAR and that YEMEN is next? If so, who signs the treaty ending it and what are the terms? Once signed, what international laws make it enforceable? Call it a police action, because that is the truth.

  • Expanded Consciousness

    Yemen is a pro-American government and is actively trying to root out terrorist enclaves within its state. How can we go to war with Yemen? Are we going to go to war with Canada?

  • Michael


    Cause it’s good media and propaganda. Because reporters during the Vitenam war gave a human face and showed us what death looked like people protested and fought it.

    So, the government made it harder to see the above since it tends to make war alot harder to do and humanizes some of our enemies.

    1st, dehumanize all enemies and civilians in such area.
    2nd, Claim everybody is on your side anyone whoses not is a terrorist.
    3rd Control the media by embedding all reporters with the military, using rating groups to which reporters give good spin reporting and which do not.
    4. Prevent any pictures showing any abuse of civilians what so ever.
    5. Claim all the people killed are terrorist or just cause it war.
    6. Scare the public, make them afraid, make them hate the enemy and the country. and lastly
    7. Claim good vs evil.

    The Yemen thing has been going on far longer than a few weeks, yet journalist are finally covering it now.

  • Dee

    Here we go again! The Obama Administration becomes more like a Bush third term every day. Another misguided youth with no future who botches an airliner incident is enough to send the mighty US military to war with another nation in the Middle East? Clearly Obama is no longer the Commander-in-Chief. The Pentagon, the for-profit Military-Industrial Complex, and a handful of generals (and their apologist Senators) are now calling the shots and pulling the strings. Harry Truman fired his general who wanted to expand a war; Obama kowtows to his generals (some of whom seem to have presidential ambitions of their own). All War All the Time is not the change I voted for and I certainly won’t be voting for it again in 2012. Yemen may be a potential failed state, but these United States are not far behind if we stay on this path.

  • Michael

    Come on Onpoint, Fox news as your sources and quotes.

    So I’m waiting for the show claiming iran is tied to Al Qaeda, If we go to war with Yemen, Are we going to go to Sudan next?

  • http://www.iamdark.com Jeanette Michelle

    The only way that this type of terroist attempt attacks to cease is if the government, our president stops any travel from these terroist countries. All travel to Cuba was stopped, why can’t we do the same with these other countries until we can resolve the issue? The president should put a law in affect for 5 to 10 years that no one can come from those countries into the United States of America for 5 to 10 years; that will include Yemen, Ethiopia, Somalia, Afghanistan and etc.

  • http://www.iamdark.com Jeanette Michelle

    We really don’t need to go to war with anyone. Stop travel to these countries. Make it so that no one can come into America from these Al Queda countries and no one from America goes there. It’s as simple as that. No one wants to do this. It would make more since than going over there and fighting our way to prove a point or stop their terroist acts. You can’t stop a terroist, but you can stop the act. How? Keep them wherre they are. If they can’t come to America they can’t bomb us. America has the tendency to let any and everyone come in to this country and that’s the problem.

  • Michael

    I heard the number of the gitmo folks who were released and is fighting, missing, or imprison is far less as to the majority as your guess claims.

    Contrary to recent assertions that one in seven, or 14 percent, of the former prisoners had “returned to the battlefield,” our analysis of Pentagon reports, news stories and other public records indicates that the number who were confirmed or suspected to be involved in anti-U.S. violence is closer to one in 25, or 4 percent.


  • http://www.iamdark.com Jeanette Michelle

    Even if Yemen is falling apart, that is not America’s problem. I keep listening to the callers speaking in terms of how destitute this country Yemen is becoming. That does not have anything to do with America. Let their country – their government handle the situation. It is not America’s responsibility! America needs to learn to take care of America first!

  • Michael Isfar

    With corrupt, veteran Democrats fleeing elected office, this is Obama’s trial balloon effort to establish himself as tough on terrorism. After the Christmas failure of intelligence and security teams of his administration, he’s desperate to show he cares about American defense. Too little, too late and too fake.

  • Michael


    Saudi Arabia where there tons or terrorist, extremist,repressive government, undemocratic.

    I guess as long as the terrorist or repressive government is cowtowing to our side it’s find.

    The Saudi’s did start blaming Yeman problems on Iran

    :Anytime there is a Shia rebellion in the Arab world, Iran gets excoriated. Bahrain and Saudi Arabia have blamed Iran for fomenting Shia unrest in their country, and now Yemen is following the same footsteps. A leading Yemeni religious leader has accused Iran of inciting violence in the north of the country, where a predominantly Shia group, known as the Houthi fighters, is waging a war against the government. Al-Jazeera reported that Sheikh Abdul Majid al-Zandani, the head of Yemen’s Imam University, told supporters that Iran was trying to promote the Shia ideology in the country by backing the Houthi fighters.”


  • Michael

    A 50,000 dollar bomb to bomb a hut, great use of our resources.

    as opposed to a underwear bomber maybe a couple thousand dollars to plan that will cost use billions and scanners.

    waste of resources.

  • usaya

    In response to some of the ludicrous comments here on stopping travel from these countries, I would like to point you all to this very well-written article in Dawn, a well-known English-language Pakistani newspaper. The writer clearly highlights the dichotomy between Americans trusting the Pakistani military and its people to fight the US’s war against different factions of Taliban and al-Qaeda while at the same time not entrusting individuals from these countries to visit the US. What kind of disproportionate message is the administration sending here? Additional security will serve no substantial purpose to make Americans safer if these very actions perpetuate the notion that American backlash can always make things better. In doing so, these security measures bolster al-Qaeda’s cowardly claims of anti-Americanism throughout large parts of South Asia and the Middle East, where vulnerability to al-Qaeda-like factions is more due to the crumbling socio-political infrastructure than due to genuine interest in the ideologies behind al-Qaeda’s message.


  • http://www.greetsiel-feriendomizil.de reiner

    Great Information. Thanks

  • Michael

    economic resources hahahahaha, yea right its far easier to explain to the U.S. public that we are at war and have to kill all terrorist, of course creating more terrorist in the process and further destroying the country, and wasting resources that could be helping people at home.

    Great Plan, make the people over there poorer, and more destitute that will make us safer. :P

  • Michael

    I’m curious if Black Water or any other Private security Firm is working in Yemen?

    Can you ask your guest that?

  • EIO Boston

    The way to change events is a much longer harder process. The ruling class in most countriesshould be encouraged by government policy to promote open and honest government that will satisfy the aspirations of their people. We can start with transparency international and refuse to have these leaders stash away billions of dollars in cash and property in off-shore banks and create destitute situations that alqaida can submerge itself in. Proting good governance may be the most effective tool agains terror, because these governments will use their own resources to better the situation of their citizens.

  • lee

    That clip of the cleric, saying don’t trust your neighbors, sound eerily close to the “christian” right.

  • Loay

    Since 1492 the west has inflicted genocide, slavery etc on the rest of the planet with impunity since the rest of the world lacked the technological capability to fight back. Now they are gaining the ability to strike back, which is why most of the terrorists are educated as engineers and doctors, not religious simpletons. The root of the problem lies in our behavior such as the killing of 750,000 Iraqi women and children in the 1990’s via sanctions, overthrowing of a democratically elected government and support for a 30 year dictator in Iran, etc, etc.

    From Latin America to the Middle east to Asia. To quote Malcolm X, the chickens are coming home to roast and we will reap a bitter harvest until we revise our attitude toward the non western people of the planet. The roots of our problem in Yemen lie in our support for the conservative government of Northern Yemen in their successful execution of the civil war against the much more progressive South Yemen government. The roots include our attack on the Somali government plunging that poor country back into anarchy. And overall our support for the genocide being perpetrated by Israel in Palestine. Support for Zionism an ideology the rest of the world has again and again declared racist, colonialist.

  • Todd

    Yemen or bust! Let’s see, I guess we’re down to sending the Jr. ROTC and Boy Scouts overseas to conquer the world now, huh? No wait, I’ve got it: We can recruit the Iraqis and Afghanis to go wage war on Yemen! That way, we can slowly, but surely, eliminate the populations of all 3 countries. Problem solved!

  • millard-fillmore

    Dear Loay,

    It’s not as if Islam is free of blame and hasn’t done its share of plundering and killing in the past, and it continues to treat non-Muslim minorities unjustly to this day. (You seem quite knowledgeable, so I don’t think posting links is necessary, but let me know if you do require some information – I’ll be happy to.)

    So, going by your “chickens coming home to roost” theory, are America’s actions in Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Islam’s chickens coming home to roost? If it’s the theory of karma you believe in (a concept from Hinduism), then shouldn’t that karma work for all humans – “western” as well as “non-western” people? Or, are “western” people specifically targeted by the karma god, while it turns a blind eye towards those “non-westerns”, who, based on their religion, stone women to death?

    BTW, how do you define “non-western” people?

    You seem to be speaking for the common humanity of all people, yet drawing a “us vs. them” distinction when convenient (western vs. non-western). If all “western” people today need to bear the historical burden since 1492 for certain acts of colonialism (a ridiculous proposition), then why not apply the same standard to Muslims of today for Islam’s atrocities of the past and let non-Muslims extract their pound of flesh?

    Also, please tell me, how is American foreign policies or “western people since 1492″ responsible for Shia-Sunni violence, or persecution of Ahmaddiyas by Shia-Sunni, or mistreatment and killing of non-Muslims by Muslims?

  • millard-fillmore


    You wrote: “Since 1492 the west has inflicted genocide, slavery etc on the rest of the planet with impunity “

    And to nit-pick a bit, wasn’t slavery justified by all three Semitic/Abrahamic religions, and adherents of all three religions practiced it? Why single out “west”?

  • http://www.filipinoboston.blogspot.com akilez

    The Philippine Immigration Department barred 334 foreigners from entering the Philippines just last month before the failed terrorist attack.

    334 foreigners without proper papers or suspicions of being a terrorist. All were sent back to their countries. When you land on NAIA all passengers are subjuct to have their picture taken and process. If you are a terrorist or listed on the black list. Philippine immigration will arrest those people before they even leave the airport and they FINE airlines who never check the passengers visas, passports and round triop ticket had a chance to take a plane to Manila.

    But in United States you never hear this kind of news on tv, newspaapers or internet news.

    TSA indeed

  • http://www.lit.org/author/fritzwilliam F. William Bracy

    Listen to your first two callers and the majority of the commenters here. 9-1-1 unscrewed our heads and we simply cannot get them screwed on straight again. It really is as though the bureaucrats in charge of our political fortunes (and misfortunes) have lost all ability to reason.

    But that’s okay. Lessons learned hard are lessons learned best, so I say go for it. Let’s attack and keep on attacking until it becomes absolutely clear to everyone, not just the war hawks, that the policy of last man standing only works in video games. Meanwhile, what we don’t accomplish through war as a population control measure, nature will accomplish for us through human-assisted global climate change.

    Let’s all lift a glass to ignorance, war, suffering and death.

  • Alex

    “The only way that this type of terroist attempt attacks to cease is if the government, our president stops any travel from these terroist countries. All travel to Cuba was stopped, why can’t we do the same with these other countries until we can resolve the issue?”

    Finally someone said it. I mean, I am from Belarus and I often witness how hard it is to get a visiting visa from the former USSR. My wife, then girlfriend, would not be able to get a visa to visit me here even if her life depended on it. The reasoning was: “what if she stayed and became a public charge or god forbid start working illegally.” At the same time, this country has two wide open borders and I have not heard of any travel restrictions for Middle East countries. Where is the logic in that?

  • Charlotte

    Don’t forget that the Bin Laden patriarch hailed from Yemen. Quite apart from theocratic intolerancc, true believers, etc., you’re dealing with a traditional culture in which blood relationships mean everything. As one coworker from Swafford County,Tennessee, explained a local conflict decades ago, “It’s a matter of kindage.” I never found the word “kindage” in any dictionary, but it does explain why Al Qaeda and the Taliban are quietly but relentlessly marrying into Afgani families while we’re dithering about trying to buy off warlords.

  • Janet

    obama, like bush are grasping for straws. It’s time to isolate ourselves from this part of the world and not allow any of their citizens into our country. Let them go to Europe.

  • Brett

    al-Qaeda is the new “Red Menace” for the world. Especially in the US, where you have the Joe Liebermans of the political voices stoking the preemptive action fires and using imminent-danger, scare language. Military troop solutions to this al-Qaeda problem haven’t worked so far, and there is a mountain of evidence [emphasis on mountain] that the actions taken by the US have helped anti-American sentiment and facilitated indoctrination and recruitment for terrorist groups.

    We seem to be playing out the same scenarios in the same manner, with the same solutions…Isn’t that the definition of insanity?

    As far as restricting air travel, within this context, presumably, the measure would be to stop terrorists. We’d have to stop all air travel all over the world! It doesn’t take much thought to see terrorist organizations cropping up everywhere; they already are! Terrorists are flying into the US from everywhere. And, if we stopped travel from other places, we would have to stop travel TO other places; because, you know, US citizens can be recruited for terrorism, too!

  • Brett

    “‘If you are a terrorist or listed on the black list. Philippine immigration will arrest those people before they even leave the airport…’” -akilez

    True, but that’s because those terrorists are always wearing their T-shirts that say, “I became a terrorist and all I got was this lousy T-shirt!”

  • http://www.filipinoboston.blogspot.com AKILEZ

    Brett I don’t get the joke. Philippine Immigration had been doing that since 1995. when Pope John Paul 2 was in the Philippines and there was a terrorist attempt to kill him by “who else Bin Laden”.

    I guess you didn’t know about the plot. Further more the Philippine Government warned the US government in 2000 that there was a plan to fly planes thru Buildings in the United States cities but so sad but the US Government NEVER LISTEN TO A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.

    By the way in 1995 a lot Foreign Muslims in Manila were
    detained for 2 days in Jail when the Pope was there.


    after the 9/11 attack the first country that supported USA against the war in terrorism was your little brown brothers the Filipinos.

    Remember USA sent marines to Basilan island to help the Philippine marines and Filipino Navy SEALS to hunt down the terrorist but there was no war but killed the leader of the Abu Sayyaf Group and then US marines left the Basilan.

    To tell you frankly TERRORIST ARE SMART PEOPLE they will never wear a t shirt that says “I became a terrorist and all I got was this lousy T-shirt!”

    And again I will have my last laugh.

  • Twitter this…

    World War III has already begun…the civilized world is under attack by a fundamentalist religious hate group of civilians. The safety of all Muslims is compromised by this extremist enemy. Our best weapons in this global struggle are death and destruction. Every tyrannical movement has its price. Witness history.

  • Michael

    8 afgan child executed, by U.S. troops, first response they deny it happening, second response they were shooting at the troops, third response that they werent shooting but some maybe terrorist Forth response the people there who lose their kids are lying.

    Coming to a theater near you (Yemen)


    imagine if it was 8 European, American children, yet we expect the families and tribe leaders not to want revenge.

  • Bradley

    Yemen: Al Qaeda, -now in the first month of 2010
    America: IRA, -for ladder half of the century

    Just because a terror group is in any country, does not call for an invasion of that country! If that was the case, Ireland and/or England should have been allowed to invade America to simply stop the IRA in America, and all the money they find here, and is sent back to the North of Ireland. My parents came over from Ireland and England in the 1970s, and went to pubs at the beginning, to find a familiar feeling after moving across the ocean, and were shocked for the collection tins passed around the bars and pubs here in the NYC area.
    The views towards Yemem from a POV similar to that on Fox news, is nothing but war mongering and ignorance.

  • cory

    The damage done to us by Al-Qaeda:

    1. Getting us to destroy ourselves economically. Hundreds of Billions on wars, more on dubious security measures. All while many Americans are broke and sick and our infrastructure is crumbling.

    2. The poisoning of our political discourse

    3. The reduction of our liberties and freedoms as the cry for safety grows ever louder.

    4. Reduction of our standing in the world as we lob missiles and drones into more and more countries.

    It will be interesting in the future to look back at this time and see if we might not actually be “losing” the war on terror right now.

  • Brett

    Figures you wouldn’t get the joke :-); the point being how and under what conditions do Philippine immigration officers detain “terrorists”? Do they profile based on ethnicity? Do they trample on the rights of each traveler to the point of questionable practices? Of the percentages of people detained, which are subjected to plain old bullying and harassment? Etc. Your comment (the one I made a joke on) implies that terrorists are obvious to spot, as if they wear their credentials on their shirts. Do you get that? Sometimes absurdity can be met with absurd humor.

    In any intelligent discussion, one would want to analyze what reasonable balances should be maintained in securing airline travel. Any measure to ensure safety should be discussed in terms of degree, something missing in your ad hominem comment.

    As far as your follow-up comment…so, because the Philippine government stopped an assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II that was funded by Operation Bojinka (al-Qaeda funded) in 1995–which, by the way was alerted to police, and prompted action by them, because the would-be assassin inadvertently started a chemical fire–we then should look to the Philippine government as a model for security measures? Perhaps they get some things right, sure, but the US has also stopped some terrorist attacks, as well, and that is hardly a reason to hold us up as security geniuses. Is it? Do you really think that putting all foreign Muslims in jail during times of heightened security is a good solution? Is that an action to hold up with pride?

    Akilez, you support your positions based on very emotional and reactive arguments.

    To your second claim, which is a bit murkier in that the reality is not quite as clear-cut as you directly claim. In 1995, Philippine police did arrest and torture Abdul Hakim Murad who told them of plans to plant bombs on US airliners (which actually prompted the 9-11 planners to get a lot smarter in preparing for their attacks, and, by many accounts, may have greatly helped ensure their success). Between that time and the moment of 9-11, MANY countries and intelligence sources warned the US of some imminent attack of the kind carried out on 9-11. Because the US ignored those warnings does not make or bolster an argument that we should follow the model of Philippine airport security. Which, by all accounts, X-rays the crap out of people; and, as stringent as their security checks are (most of which are followed in the US), there have still been incidents of Philippine planes being bombed.

    You would not be able to provide any evidence that the US disregarded some warning by the Philippine government simply because the Philippines are a third world country.

    The Philippines are host to a number of dangerous terrorist groups, so it is understandable that they have stringent security.

    It is great that you have a healthy sense of national pride in your home country, Akilez, but you continually use a sentiment that somehow Filipino ways will show the rest of the world how to conduct itself, and that you will have some kind of last laugh when other countries fail and your home country succeeds, and that everybody will be sorry they didn’t listen…It seems a myopic view to me, at best.

  • Efua

    The beginning of Taliban, Al Quaeda and other groups appear to have been in the formation of the mujahadeen in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets when they occupied that country,

    The radicalization of these groups seems to have grown out of opposition to western military and economic presence in these lands; opposition to western secular values; anger at local governments etc.

    We have singled out 14 countries today for special screening. What about Indonesia, China, Russia, Mali, Senegal, Kenya, Morocco, Egypt, Chad, England, France, Germany, etc. All of these countries have young Moslem populations that could potentially be radicalized by Al Quaeda. Are we going to go after all these countries?

    How long are we going to continue dropping bombs until we realize that is not the solution?


  • Efua


    Your comment: “with corrupt, veteran Democrats fleeing elected office, this is Obama’s trial balloon effort …… Too little, too late and too fake.”

    As far as I know, Obama did not hire these CIA and FBI operatives who failed to connect the dots. Career people stay on from administration to administration. I assume most of them were left over from the Bush era and before.


    Correction who read Brett Comment the Philippines don’t HOST terrorist. The Philippine Government don’t feed and house baby killers. Brett did a great Internet research on Pope Paul 2 assasination attempt in Manila in 1995 etc etc. I know because I was there some people again are claiming to KNOW EVERYTHING WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD and Airport security. Again no one not even x-ray machine can stop a terrorist. period

    One good Information about Terror plot or Terror attacks. LEARN TO SPEAK AND WRITE ARAB OR FARSI and check those Web Site the host those languages. you don’t have to be an FBI,CIA or the Philippines to know about terror attacks. A found out this info from 60 minutes that interviewed an Arab-American boy from New Jersey He said: The Arab people knew the WTC will be gone on 9/11 because they posted it on and Arab web site”

    believe it or not.

  • Brett

    If we can build up support enough for military involvement to the point of having ground troops in Yemen, we can have three wars going on!!! If we can just send in a bunch of drones, however, then we can reduce the loss of human life…well, at least OUR human lives, anyway. Considering the drones are so good about hitting their targets right on a pinhead, so to speak, we could attach those body-scanning machines to the drones and drop them on individual terrorists! Now that be poetic, that would be kickin’ it old school, like my Italian great uncle would have done! (Man, I wish Yemen had robot soldiers and we had slightly more powerful robot soldiers, then there wouldn’t be ANY loss of life before we win!) We may not win the hearts of the Yemeni people, but we will damn sure win their minds, I tell you what! (That so-called “pro-American” government they have isn’t working to make them more cozy to our ideas anyway.)

    And, if the whole thing really is about oil, then, hey, Yemen is oil rich! We clearly have the technological edge to whip up on them, so we can just hammer them until we take over their oil! With drones, we could take over the entire Middle East, and we’d better do that while we are still ahead of the technological curve! Now, I know, we have to be careful. We can’t seem like we’re going after oil–that would bring too much world outrage against us. We have to keep up with the stamping out of the scourge that is terrorism bit and the liberating of the peoples routine, that seems to have fooled most of the people most of the time so far! Oh, there’ll be some sentiments criticizing our tactics and questioning our motives…the little people will say that, the suckers. Also, most will figure out at some point that we shouldn’t be sending troops to Yemen, but we’ll be entrenched by then! Besides, how else is the military industrial complex gonna keep taking care of itself?

    When I was a kid, my father told me to become a military contractor! But, did I listen?!?!

  • Brett

    Other people than you know about the assassination plot on the Pope in 1995. Also, there are terrorist organizations in the Philippines. They live and plot from that country; I didn’t say they are have the Philippine government’s blessing, but they are there.

  • http://www.filipinoboston.blogspot.com akilez

    There is only one group of terrorist in the Philippines it is the Abu Sayyaf Group. This cell does not have the capability of flying planes inside buildings but they concentrate their terror plot in Mindanao, Basilan or Manila. ASG Filipino Muslims who fought the Russian in Afghanistan are now back in Mindanao after the Afgan-Russian war.

    The Moro Islamic Liberation Front in Mindanao is helping the Philippine government capture kidnappers and terrorist in southern Philippines. The Moro group are not terrorist. They are fighting for justice for the massacered muslims in Corregidor.

    I met a Yemenis Ambassador in a Boston restaurant. he was a nice person and gave his business card to me and I still have it. He thought ALL Filipinos are Muslim but he didn’t know that it’s the only Roman Catholic country in Asia.

    Terrorism has been with us since 1993 when the first attempt to blow up WTC and the Waco incident which started the US Home grown terrorism. Remember Timothy Mcveigh

    I think the OIL Scenario is old school. North Africa is really the HUB of Terror camps.

  • Brett

    The Moro Islamic Liberation Front; the Moro National Liberation Front; Abu Sayyaf; the Rajah Sulaiman Movement; Jemaah Islamiyah…those are only four active terrorist organizations in the Philippines…that’s not much and, as you say, some don’t even fly planes inside buildings! There were bombings from these groups in 2000; just several more in 2002-2003; and only one bombing of a ferry in 2004 (that doesn’t really count because people can swim, right? Unlike airplane attacks). There were bombings in 2006; there were bombings in 2007 (well, not really bombings, more like 14 killings, 11 of which were beheadings, but the Marines who died were probably corrupt, right? And, hey, none in 2008, that’s something! There were bombings in 2009, but not a single one in 2010, so far!!!

  • millard-fillmore

    “Terrorism has been with us since 1993 when the first attempt to blow up WTC and the Waco incident which started the US Home grown terrorism. Remember Timothy Mcveigh”

    Yes, akilez, there was Timothy McVeigh. And don’t forget the Unabomber. But, I don’t see any parity or equivalence between the terrorist acts of TWO people in the past, and the recurring and continuing terrorist attacks in different countries around the globe, with Islam being the common thread.

  • Frank the Underemployed Professional

    It’s a shame that the former Gitmo detainees were ever brought to Gitmo in the first place. They all should have been tortured and squeezed for information in the Middle East and then drowned in vats of pigs blood, with their skulls being saved for a real 9/11 memorial***. Had we done that we would be unable to plan attacks against us.

    I can only imagine how heartily they must be laughing at our retarded government and society now for letting them live as long as they did in captivity and for then letting them go.

    ***My idea for a real 9/11 memorial is to collect the skulls of all the Islamacists we kill and pile them up in front of a lighted sign that reads, “Anybody else want some?”

  • Brett

    Frank the Underemployed Professional,
    Whoa! Maybe switch to decaf for awhile and cut back on the red meat, there, dude! Wouldn’t that action stir up quite a bit more anti-American sentiment…just sayin’

  • Brett

    “‘The Philippine Immigration Department barred 334 foreigners from entering the Philippines just last month…334 foreigners without proper papers or suspicions of being a terrorist. All were sent back to their countries.’” -akilez, Jan.6 @12:28pm EST

    Are you saying that 334 suspected terrorists landed in the Philippines last month? Wow, 334 in one month? They were then “‘sent back to their countries’”? How did the Philippine government do that? When the planes landed there, the 334 were kept on the plane? Then they were flown back to another country? Were they kept at the airport? Given a paddle boat? Marched out of the country on foot? Please tell us how that works; because, since that is something we won’t hear from the Internet, tv, or newspaper, we won’t hear about it anywhere else!

    I hope you’re not saying that anyone who seems suspicious landing in the Philippines is immediately put in prison? I’m trying to understand this scenario…If they are possible terrorists, wouldn’t they have tried to blow the planes up before they arrived in the Philippines?

    “‘But in United States you never hear this kind of news on tv, newspaapers or internet news.’”

    Are Philippine officials keeping that information from the world? Shouldn’t other countries get worried over 334 returning suspected terrorists in one month from the Philippines? Wouldn’t it be irresponsible to send 334 suspected terrorists back out into the world without making the information known to any other intelligence gathering organization? If it’s not information made public anywhere, how do you know about it? Are you saying you have such valuable information that impacts the safety of so many, and you didn’t share it with US authorities?

  • mr.independent

    It is interesting how the neocons and the likes of Joe Lieberman are advocating invading Yemen.
    From my understanding there are about 200 or maybe 300 Al Qaeda in that country with a population of over 23 million.

    I hate bust Joe Lieberman’s fantasy, but we are not the Roman Empire. Even though I think G.W. Bush was the worse president since Caligula.

  • Brett

    mr.independent–we can all agree that Joe “the bummer” Lieberman is about as useful as a botched root canal! :-)

  • millard-fillmore

    “It is interesting how the neocons and the likes of Joe Lieberman are advocating invading Yemen.”

    Yeah, and he even advocated attacking Iraq right after 9/11 and wrote a letter to the then President Bush. Imagine what he’d have done if he had become the Veep. ;)

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