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Veteran GOP Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania discusses his conversion to the Democratic Party at the White House with President Barack Obama, left, in Washington, Wednesday, April 29, 2009. Specter, who left the Republican Party, his party of nearly 30 years, was welcomed by Obama, while Specter vowed that he'll be an asset as Obama tries to get his ambitious agenda through Congress. (AP)

Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania discusses his conversion to the Democratic Party at the White House with President Barack Obama in Washington on April 29, 2009. (AP)

The Republican Party lost Arlen Specter to the Democrats last week. Over the weekend, they lost Jack Kemp, a vocal proponent of a “big tent” GOP, to cancer.

It’s been a “bad to worse” patch for the Republican Party. First they face a Democratic president who 81 percent of Americans say they like. Then they face an America where only 21 percent say they’re Republicans.

The permanent GOP majority envisioned by Karl Rove has given way, in crisis, to a Washington wholly dominated by Democrats, and critics calling the GOP “The Party of No” (somewhere between “a doomsday cult and Scientology,” writes New York Times columnist Frank Rich).

This hour, On Point: we’ll ask where is the big tent for the GOP now, and does the Republican base want to raise it again?

Republicans, what do you think? Even if you’re no fan of Specter, are you worried about the GOP’s dwindling ranks? Do you want a broader party or a purer one? What happened to the “permanent majority?” Tell us what you think — here on this page, on Twitter, and on Facebook.

Guests:

Christine Todd Whitman, former Republican governor of New Jersey, former head of the Environmental Protection Agency, co-founder and co-chair of the Republican Leadership Council.

David Keating, executive director of the Club for Growth.

Matthew Continetti, associate editor at The Weekly Standard.

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Last week, after Arlen Specter announced his defection to the Democrats, The New York Times framed the internal GOP debate in terms of a purer vs. a broader party.

The Los Angeles Times pointed to Olympia Snowe and Rush Limbaugh as examples of two very different reactions to Specter’s defection.

Over at The Wall Street Journal, conservative columnist Peggy Noonan wrote that the GOP would collapse if it didn’t maintain a big-tent attitude, while Bill Kristol, in The Washington Post, called Specter’s switch “good news for Republicans.”

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  • Mike

    debate? did they realize calling obama a socalist, and tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts,or scaremongering and hidden racism against blacks, and Mexicans is not working.

    I wounder if this will be actual debate and understanding, or repeating rush l, foxes news, beak, hanity talking points and if they realize there not getting more people on board or will it be just spin, lies and the normal bs most spew.

  • Alex

    The Repulican party was organized in 1850s as an all-Northern progressive party to counter Southern conservative Democrats and inept Whigs. Their first President was a progressive lawyer from Illinois. The South immediately ceseded from the Union when he was elected. Look what the Republican party has become now. They depend on their vote largely on former slave states, not a single rep or a senator from NE, and when a progressive lawyer from Illinois was elected again, some of them are threatening to cecede. I think they have outlived their usefulness. Did a lot of damage on the way out. Maybe a new Whig party is in order?

  • Ibrahima Bah

    if the GOP is branding itself as the tax cut party why didn’t the GOP support the president’s recovery plan, which included a lot of tax cut for the average american.
    why are they opposing everything that makes sense to the average citizen?
    why are they only for short term fixes instead thinking about the long term?
    all the mess that we are in today are created by the GOP: the War in Iraq, the collapse of the economy etc…

  • Mark

    The Republicans were once known as the part of the individual, but honestly they’ve just become corporate shills scamming votes by declaring themselves pro-life, pro-God, pro-anything that doesn’t require effort or commitment.

    They excoriated the people who tried to warn of this recession, and now try to pass themselves off as the party of fiscal responsibility. They’ve become a joke.

    Sad to see that happen to what was once a very good thing.

  • Bill

    There has been a great hypocrisy espoused that the radio hosts haven’t called them on. Lately the Republican leadership has claimed that they are the party of individual freedom. Yet they want to tell you when you can be pregnant, who you can love, what deity you can follow, and when you can die. Why hasn’t anybody questioned this statement of theirs?

  • Joe B.

    The GOP needs to return to being the party of fiscal responsibility; cutting taxes, securing our borders, promoting economic growth, and defending “traditional values” (pro-life, marriage equals one man and one woman). Only then will America sweep the GOP back into power and toss out the tax and spend, welfare state, pro-gay rights, anti-second amendment, over-regulation, pro-abortion failed platform of the Democratic party.

  • Melanie Dexter

    In the rockumentary This is Spinal Tap, the interviewer asked their manager whether the fact that the band had gone from playing big arenas to much smaller spaces meant the band’s popularity had dwindled. The manager vehemently insisted that their appeal had just become more selective. Today’s GOP in a nutshell.

  • Bruce Alvarez

    If the Republicans call the Democrats “tax and spend liberals”, the Republicans should be calling themselves “borrow and spend conservatives”. As a percent of GDP the debt went from 33% to 66% under Reagan and Bush 1, Under Clinton it came down to 57%, Bush 2 pushed it up to 68%.

    As a moderate independent voter, I’d rather have a government that collects the money it spends than one that borrows it all, starts wars for invalid reasons and alienates us from almost every other country in the world.

  • http://wbur.org Fred, Newton, MA

    I grew up in Western NY in the late ’60s where suburban Republicans represented honest government in contrast to the corrupt Democratic city machine. My family runs a small apartment rental business now in the Boston area and we find the extreme anti-small-property-owner positions of some Democratic politicians to be bizarre and offensive. But could we vote for a Republican when they dismiss our other concerns about personal liberty of self, or are knee-jerk supporters of government control in all areas but business? Hardly.

  • Sarah E.

    I called in and lost the call, but my point was regarding Gov. Whitman’s comment about the conservative base feeling that you were not a good Republican if you did not espouse all their core values and beliefs. I feel that you are not even looked on as a good PERSON by these conservative Republicans if you do not agree with them on every single issue. I was raised in a conservative Baptist household by a single mother who really did her best to instill her beliefs in me. I know that she did it out of love, but I feel that she now looks at me and questions my integrity because I am now a Democrat and an Episcopalian.

  • Jennifer

    Over the past couple of years it seem that the republican party has become a party of discrimination and fringe opinions. I find it difficult to listen to any of their “talking points” without finding myself feeling very defensive and put off. If they hope to include more people I think they need to soften the rhetoric in much of what they say. They ought to take the cue from Obama, who I find, makes comments in a thoughtful way and refrains from making statements that could alienate people not only with what he is saying but also the manner in which he says it.

  • scott

    Judge Richard Posner helped construct the “economic man” thesis, an underpinning of the Republican party’s market friendly/government unfriendly platform which has carried it forty years – this month he has written a book coming down solidly on the side of this crisis being a market failure, and if anything a failure of government stepping up and acting “big”. The foundation of the party’s recovery since reagan seems to be in complete breakdown, not a displeasure with one man as with Nixon. Perhaps David Brooks is underestimating the three term drought, perhaps we’re looking at a fifty year stretch as with FDR onward?

  • Debbie Reches

    Blaming the Republican leadership is too easy and convenient.

    Why should Arlen Specter be guaranteed to run on the Republican ticket without being challenged? Was it the leadership that determined that Specter would lose the primary?

    Moderate Republicans have been making peace with the intolerant, no holds barred, take no prisoners faction of their party for a long time. They stood by as this same faction went off the deep end when Clinton was President. They’ve tolerated the anti-immigrant, anti-environment, anti-government attitudes of people like Rush Limbaugh for too long.

    Unfortunately, it has taken the election of a very popular (for now) Democartic President, who can’t be brought down with endless accusations about adultery and perjury to force moderates to confront the ideologues of their own party.

  • http://nixonthehand.com Ulrich

    Why is there this need to have a two party system? Why not four or five or six. It seems like the republican party is more or less splitting in two for ideological reasons. There are the same divisions in the democratic party, and it would be good for the country if the democratic party split in to two or three parts as well.

  • http://info.med.yale.edu/obgyn/kliman/ Harvey Kliman

    The GOP sold their soul when they lured the anti-abortionists into their tent. So many of their base only demand one thing from the GOP: kill abortion rights. With that myopic focus the GOP ignored ALL the other social issues that Christie so correctly noted needs to be dealt with in a healthy two party society.

  • Eleanor O’Sullivan

    Is it time for more than two political parties? Would a more collaborative coalition government better represent the U.S. voters? Mr. Keating mentioned some common ground his group had with an environmental group – perhaps political parties should form around a few select issues rather than crowd in under two political umbrellas.

  • http://campaing4liberty.com John

    I am African American and I voted democrat all of my life until last year. Then I voted for Ron Paul. I did NOT vote for John McCain or Barack Obama. What was the difference? Both supported the bailout which was opposed by 90% of Americans. Neither gave a clear timetable for a pullout from Iraq. Both supported warrantless wiretapping. That’s the problem the republicans face. To much agreement with democrats on all of the worst ideas. And repubicans have been out in front in these godawful wars that have nothing to do with making Americans safe. Democrats have supported these wars too. (Obama now putting off the pullout from Iraq and increasing troops to Afghanistan). I’m glad Alen Spectre is gone. The the GOP has a lot more cleanup to do. If John McCain had come out against the bailout he’d be president now.

  • Jim – Boston, MA

    Why do we need a Big Tent? What’s wrong with several smaller tents – with 3 or 4 parties? Is it possible that this could be the time for republicans (and democrats for that matter) to break into a multi-party system. That might cause parties to really identify what they stand for AND cause them to create coalitions to really get things done.

  • Solvei Blue

    Excuse me, but when are you going to bring up the Southern Strategy?

    Fiscal responsibility is all well and good. If the Republican party were simply focused on fiscal responsibility, I might vote for them from time to time. But the Republican party has also, during the past 30-40 years, made a career of appealing to white Southerners who have a problem with racial equality. As long as Republicans allow stone racists like Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter to speak for them, they will not get my vote.

  • Rory

    I do not understand how the Republicans can brand themselves as the party of fiscal resposibilty.

    Where was the fiscal responsibility when they were is control 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005?

    Without the war budget, they were promising that there would be a balanced budget in 2012. Come on, did anyone buy this.

  • Solvei Blue

    This has been a terribly disappointing discussion. You should have gotten a conservative who WOULD address these so-called “social values” issues, instead of going on and on about how they don’t matter. They clearly DO matter, and to pretend that fiscal policy is the only thread in this tapestry that matters is disingenuous.

  • Solvei Blue

    No, Michael Steele does NOT show that everybody is welcome in the GOP. What he DOES show is that Republicans have fundamentally misunderstood the point of affirmative action. The point is to encourage QUALIFIED minorities to rise to positions of leadership. Michael Steele, like Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal, and Michelle Bachman, demonstrate so little competence in their jobs that one can only conclude that the Republican party values them only as tokens.

  • J Lapham

    I agree with some of the other commenters – I don’t have nearly as much of an issue with Republican views on size of government, fiscal responsibility, etc. The major issue to me is the legislated morality. The Repulican party, as much as the current commentators are skipping over it, has a huge issue with their association with right wing fundamental morality.

  • mr.independant

    It is amazing that some republicans still use Fannie and Freddie as the reason for the economic downfall.
    This argument is absurd and wrong. The damage was done and would have been done without Fannie and Freddie.
    David Keating is just spouting forth rhetoric. He has no new ideas and the part is bankrupt. To think that all they have to do is say GW Bush is the past is not enough.

    Lets not forget Jack Abramoff, Norquist and Reed who helped to ruin the republicans. Tom DeLay was another corrupt influence and a driving force in the republican party for years. You can’t count out these caustic players.

    The democrat’s are worse in my view, witness the failure to pass a fair bankrupt law. The banks won.

    The problem is what is the definition small government.
    Is it a government that does nothing, as in the debacle of Katrina? Norquist’s model of government is where this idea is coming from.

    Limited government and strong defense are a conflict of interest, you can’t have a limited government fiscally and have a huge military. Family values? What family values they don’t support families if they did they would be behind some kind of health care reform.

  • Dem Student

    What a great show, I really enjoyed it.
    Especially the comments from people across the country.

    If The Republicans are to comeback they need to stop being an exclusive party, people feel alienated from them.

    That is why Obama is so widely liked on a personal level. Because he makes EVERYONE feel like they have a place at the table.

  • Jeremy

    As an Independent, there is absolutely no way that I can support the Republican Party in its current form. It has been high jacked but the Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian Mujahedeen who is trying to force their ideological beliefs on the rest of us. The scariest part of the Bush administration and the current makeup of the Republican Party is that they don’t care about my and every Americans 1st Amendment Right. And it turns out that the entire constitution is irrelevant to them other then the 2nd Amendment or the right to bear arms.

  • Lynne

    The Republican party has much to offer but one hurdle is getting neutral coverage from the press and universities. The negative assumptions that are flung at those who admit to not being a Democrat are astounding. A disservice is done to all when one point of view is villified. My high school son admits to being a Republican but has had to make the stand against much mockery and denigration. I have spoken to many individuals who have siad they would never admit to being a Republican or discuss the less than politically correct view point because they feared for their social status. I find that an astounding statement in a world that claims to be open to all ideas.

  • John

    Michael Steele is far more competent than Barack “I’m lost without my teleprompter” Obama. He sliced Arlen Spectre apart on NPR the other day with the skill of a brain surgeon. But Michael Steele isn’t the only intelligent black man that knows Obama is selling this country down the tubes. Look up Tavis Smiley’s recent interview with leading black intellectual Cornel West. Cornel, who campaigned FOR Barack, laid out how Barack is a “neoliberal” who is controlled by Wallstreet and is taking money from the middle class and giving to the uberrich. The banker bailout of AIG didn’t help the average person who voted for Barack, but most are still too “wowed” by the fact that he’s the “first black president” to understand what’s going on.

  • John

    Also the damage done to the economy WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE WITHOUT FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC! Too many people are too superficial in their analysis. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac CREATED the housing derivatives market by A) getting into it when it was illegal for other companies to do so and B) creating the faulty loan instruments that other companies used to such predatory effects. Sure the scope of the problem grew beyond Fannie and Freddie, but they CREATED the problem. Also bad Fannie and Freddie debt was resold many times over. Five trillion in bad housing debt became 80 trillion in bad dervatives. Its hilarious how liberals want to regulate everything except the institutions they (FDR and LBJ) created.

  • http://nopartylines-nospin86.blogspot.com/ Monica

    Honestly, as a republican, I’m very concerned for our future. Not only has our nation embarked on a war on terror but our politicians have been fighting their own war of Democrats versus Republicans as well. This partisan war has accomplished nothing but embarrassment, childish name calling, and a lack of productivity for both sides of the political spectrum; thus leaving the democrats with their chests sufficiently pumped with liberal egoism and the republicans scrambling for a comeback much less a candidate that can stand a chance against the everpopular Barack Obama.

    I’m sick and tired of this non-stop finger pointing and childishness that runs rampant in Washington and every other political arena. When will we all realize that this accomplishes absolutely nothing and that there are bigger fish to fry?

    The Democrats need to do their jobs and stop making references to the previous administration as well as the “clean-up” they’ve inherited! What do you want, an award for taking on such a job? We know you think we’re the party who ruined everything! We know you think we’re bigots and Bible thumper radicals! Get over yourselves and do your job! The Republicans need to stop holding conferences just to point fingers and start setting up a blueprint for reconstruction of what was once a grand ole party. New strategies and new tactics are in order. Let’s stop stating the obvious and get on the revolution road!

  • mr.independant

    John Fannie and Freddie did not create the housing derivatives market. Where do you get this stuff from.
    They bought them, yes, they made the same mistakes that Citi and Bank of America made. This is why republicans and some conservatives are such a turn off.
    They constantly yell at people who disagree with them.

    For the record, a good deal of the current problem is on the backs of the Clinton economic people, Robert Rubin and Larry Summers, and Geithner.

    link

  • Solvei Blue

    If taking Arlen Specter apart counts as competence in the Republican party these days, then it’s no wonder they’re in trouble.

  • Arnold

    The Democrats view of the role of government in the economy can be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.

  • Alan M. Klein

    This is not a new issue. In 1952 the major obstacle to Gen. Eisenhower becoming President was the Taft Republicans’ opposition to his nomination.

    kczutra

  • Rachel

    The Republican party does indeed seem to be in disarray, but really, other than tossing a few meatless bones to the left in the first 100 days, what has Obama done that McCain would not have…bailouts?…war policy?…stimulus announcements?…healthcare promises?…

  • Alex

    “The Democrats need to do their jobs and stop making references to the previous administration as well as the “clean-up” they’ve inherited!”

    Boy, that’s a good one. I remember listening to O’Reily and Severin right around the 2004 elections. Guess what they were screaming and yelling about? It was “Clinton this and Clinton that and Hillary is a traitor” etc., etc.

  • Don

    I vote Republican. Sometimes, like the last Presidential election with my teeth gritted and my nose held. There are many platforms the Republican party stresses that I don’t agree with. But there is one that I hold important and can not compromise on, the issue of life and the protection of it for example. The Democratic party has an opposing view and therefore I cannot support it.

  • Fred W. Bracy

    Keep it up, Republicans. You do wonders in our favor with your sputtering, stuttering and stammering now that you can hear the coffin nails being driven in. Thanks to you, the party of misanthropic greed, the American Century is over. Furthermore, there will be no re-peat, three-peat or any other kind of peat. Why? Because you threw the game. You gave it up to the Chinese, the Indians and yes, the Brazilians as well. You’ve turned it into a game of “no confidence,” and now the rookies will finally be given their chance. Like Carlton Fisk you grew old, you Reaganites and even less talented Bush-ites. Go ahead and enjoy your retirement even with the certain knowledge that you’ve stolen mine.

    One listener called in a pretty good play; the dollar will not be the leading world currency for very much longer, nor will the U.S. ever again be the leading world producer of durable goods like automobiles and appliances. When a team fails to produces wins over losses, the coach gets fired, and you Republicans should have been fired long, long ago.

  • Fred W. Bracy

    So you’re a Republican, are you Monica? What? … were you were born with a big red birthmark in the shape of an *elephant* or maybe an “R” somewhere on your anatomy? … not too embarrassing to show off in public, one would hope. I’d guess also that you’re not real big on “labels” for people–am I right? You know, like “Jesus Freak” and the like. Hey, I’d bet the “J-S”-ers weren’t born with strange markings. Not with letters anyway. That would be too, too weird, right? Maybe in the shape of the Virgin Mary–that is, if you really stretchd your imagination. But certainly not big red “J-S”s any more than yours would be in the shape of an “R.” Okay, so having said all that, did you ever consider a tattoo?

  • Mike

    Michael Steele is a joke and has been shown time and time again that he does not know what he is talking about. be it cnn,foxes, or npr if u have not heard him on npr. I loss count on how many times he flip-floped in 5mins on alren S and his party views.

    Steele like palin was a cheap attept to appeal to women and minorites yet u never hear them speak out against rush l. or foxes when racist comments are spewed.

    steele does not relate to anything black and the stuff he says is often commical and sad. Steele has been shown as a token and will not stand on his own but repeat what he is told, nor stand up to the far right of his party. I would put Juan W in with steele.

  • deepears in Providence

    I haven’t had the chance to listen to the show, I will later– from the looks of the comments it seems a good one, no? I have been a born and bred Democrat, I’m such a left wing radical that I see eye to eye with a lot of people on the right. We are all one people on this fragile planet of ours. I just would like to echo what Monica stated a few comments ago; she said it right on point!

  • http://N/A Matt

    Name calling and finger pointing have reigned for long enough. Let’s get back to facts and fundamental beliefs and refrain from emotion and perception. Emotion and perception is what drove this latest election. Republicans abandonded their base and became tax and spend specialists just as democrats have been for years. Its disgusting and factual. Democrats love to accuse conservatives as fear mongers, war mongers, and the like. This is nothing more than the inability to clearly state fundamental beliefs that they hold. This is because they don’t know what they are. What they do believe is that everything conservative, religious, republican, or from the bush administration has caused their current troubles. I applaud the hard leftists that call it what it is. They want entitlements, big government, no religion(at least christians that is). They say it with pride. The rest of you haters I encourage to go find your fundamental ground because as it stands you don’t have one. These are the same people who were in love with George Bush shortly after the Iraq War, but won’t admit it today, you know who you are. The same group that, mark my words, will descend on Barrack Obama without remorse when his time comes. I don’t blame Obama for running as a moderate and hiding his true beliefs, I blame all those followers that proclaimed their king as a martyr a few months after hearing his name for the very first time. You got caught up in the hype just as you will in a year or two.

  • Lonny King

    I wonder if the republicans don’t wish they would have protected endangered species a little better now that they are one.

  • Brian in North Carolina

    The racist remarks by Solvei Blue and character assassination of Monica by Fred W. Bracy is what is expected from ignorant children. Grow up people or go to your rooms and let the adult human beings have a civil debate.

    not bad for a southern white conservative…hunh Solvei ?

  • http://n/a ernest

    The RNC should go as the dinosaurs. No messages, no vision; all they do is obstruction as to health care, the environment and big tax cut for the rich… hoping it will trickle down…
    Gong Ho war mongers, unlimited spending for Iraq, no concern for national issues.
    The American people is no dummy and

  • Mitch H

    No matter what people say about the Obama administration, he is at least doing something. The Republicans are advocating nothing at all which surely is a recipe for disaster.

    Mitch

  • millard-fillmore

    “Boy, that’s a good one. I remember listening to O’Reily and Severin right around the 2004 elections. Guess what they were screaming and yelling about? It was “Clinton this and Clinton that and Hillary is a traitor” etc., etc.”

    Alex, are you suggesting that the Democrats should imitate the behavior of, and follow what O’Reilly and Severin did? You must be familiar with tu quoque.

  • Monica

    Brian in North Carolina and Matt. Thank you for your kinda and articulate words. I’m young, a recent graduate, and am passionate about politics. Call me naive but I care about my country and its future. I think that should be a universal and respectable desire.

    Mr. Bracy, I don’t understand your objections to this concept. No, I wasn’t born with a scarlett R on my anatomy. I just don’t understand your chiding sarcasm and this is exactly what I ask be removed from politics. What have you accomplished with your words? Do you feel better about shooting me down?

  • Monica

    Alex, my point was, both parties have their faults. You make a good point. Both sides are guilty. I’m sorry I didn’t make that clearer in my original post. I’m just trying to avoid competition! I was trying to point out that both sides have done things they shouldn’t have. Both are guilty.

  • Alex

    “Alex, are you suggesting that the Democrats should imitate the behavior of, and follow what O’Reilly and Severin did? You must be familiar with tu quoque.”

    I don’t know if I am suggesting anything. Just saying that certain amount of bashing of predecessors is ok. But if you do that then don’t complain about the other side when the table is turned. Just like with filibusters. Man, I did get enough of Frist whining on TV how bad that was and how American people were expecting up and down votes and about the nuclear option, etc. And now just a few years later they are afraid that Dems will get a filibuster-proof majority. Why? Filibusters are bad, remebmer? Just saying…

  • Matt

    Ernest,

    Thanks for proving my point for the billionth time. You regurgitated exactly the same thing the Obama Campaign did, and to their credit it worked actually. Non-specific generalizations about no vision, change, and blame. You bought it hook, line, and sinker. The age old attack of trickle down economics. Its tired and I thought past its time but this last election proved it still actually works. The Republicans spent too much money, yes, I get it and I’m disgusted with it. The fact that liberals actually point it out as a negative though is laughable. They did it to but times three. Now they are gonna do it until the so called Rich get ticked off. The notion of entitlements is absurd. The fact that anything, regardless of what it is is being “not affordable” to some should have no bearing on government intervention. Where does it end? Don’t skip over the meaning of that question and cast it aside as “slippery slope nonsense”. The slippery slope is exactly why California, The Fed Govt, the car manufacturers, and banks are where they are today. It was the inability to say “NO” in the first place. No I can’t afford that house actually, no we can’t give the auto workers another raise, no we can’t add this social program, no we can’t lend to you because you don’t qualify, no, no, no. No should have been said, but our leaders on both sides of the isle decided to pretend the inevitable wasn’t going to happen. Now here we are. We just went through a massive shift towards socialism, yes socialism by definition, and instead of calling a spade a spade, we’re gonna play partisan politics and blame the previous administration on anything that doesn’t sound good. It happens all day, every day, to the point that most Americans don’t even analyze it anymore, they just assume it is true. How do we solve it? Well you all decided to vote Big Government, we’ll see how it plays out, but I think history has shown us we know already where that will be.

  • Mike

    some of the promoters of the far-right often hatefilled expressions just got in trouble.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103819122

    Michael Savage is ban from the UK,because of his inciting and hateful preaching to commit violent acts. along with his speech on droping a nuke bomb on the arab world.

    along with Jay Severin and his hateful views on mexicans.

    i think there a difference in freedom of speech and inciting hate as most from the far-right radio host do.

    the link below is about freedom of speech and worth reading
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7127423.stm

    http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1169247

  • Mike

    some of the promoters of the far-right often hatefilled expressions just got in trouble.

    Michael Savage is ban from the UK,because of his inciting and hateful preaching to commit violent acts. along with his speech on droping a nuke bomb on the arab world.

    he was on talk of the nation today if u like to here

    along with Jay Severin supsended because of his hateful views on mexicans.

    i think there a difference in freedom of speech and inciting hate as most from the far-right radio host do.

    the link below is about freedom of speech and worth reading

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7127423.stm

  • millard-fillmore

    “But if you do that then don’t complain about the other side when the table is turned.”

    Alex, but the Democrats do their complaining too, when they’re not in power. So, as far as I can tell, there’s not a dime of a difference between Republicans and Democrats, and both are corrupt and hypocritical. Why anyone would think that being a Democrat or a Republican gives him/her a higher moral ground (or that one is better than the other), is beyond me and certainly not backed by objective facts on ground.

  • Alex

    millard-fillmore – no argument there. It is just I immigrated to this country in 1996 and did not become interested in politics until the 2000 elections. Before that I did not even know which party Clinton belonged to. So my education in the US politics coincided with 8 years of almost complete one party rule, and that party was the GOP. I have to say I was decidedly not impressed and started voting for the Democrats. That’s all. I am not saying they are better. My jury is still out.

  • justanother

    To Joe B —-

    Anyone in the right mind would know PRO-CHOICE is NOT PRO-ABORTION.

    Republican, stop your empty rhetoric such as PRO-LIFE until you can figure what to do with the LIFES of after birth, and the LIFES of giving birth.

    You have wasted so much money and energy on framing and labeling your opponents. Your empty rhetoric only left you a reputation of “talking heads”, now you are falling a trap that you set out by yourself! Backfire.

    Time to really do something good “long term” and “sustainable” for this country, not just today, this year or next 4 years before election, maybe you should spend more money and energy working on your sympathy and compassion department.

  • Brian in North Carolina

    Politics is a game of give and take. I think most U.S. citizens are genarally moderate with some conservative and/or liberal values mixed in…

    Maybe the FAR right and Far left could come to some “Trade” agreements such as….

    1. Gay/Lesbian Marriage – Let it be allowed and respected in every state of the union, with all the bells and whistles that come with marital bliss…(The TRADE…) Don’t call it Marriage…call it a partnership or whatever.

    2. Abortion – Allowable in all states, but with no federal funding except in cases of incest/rape, or endangerment of life to the mother who has no medical coverage. There’s plenty of private organizations to provide funds for the unwanted pregnancies not involving incest/rape. Also a doctor cannot be forced to provide this service without any ramifications. (The TRADE…)Make it a civil rights violation for any person or organization to picket, block, harass, hand out anti-abortion/pro-life material, drive vehicles with anti-abortion/ pro life messages and/or pictures (you know the kind I’m talking about), etc. within 440 yards of a abortion provider, clinic, or their private residence.

    Well that’s a start…Any other moderate’s have any “TRades” they can think of ?

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