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President George W. Bush with Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, left, SEC Chairman Chris Cox, right, and Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson as he delivers a statement on the economy Friday, Sept. 19, 2008, in the Rose Garden of the White House. Photo by Joyce N. Boghosian

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, left, SEC Chairman Chris Cox, right, and Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson join President George W. Bush in the Rose Garden on Sept. 19, 2008. (Photo: Joyce N. Boghosian)

Save yourself, Americans have been told for years now. Save for your own retirement. Save for your kids’ college. Save for a rainy day.

And then, last week — market panic, and a riptide of fear that those savings, such as they are, could all go away.

By week’s end, there was hope in the air. Bailout talk and some sharp up days on Wall Street and around the world. But a generation of “on your own” Americans have now looked into the abyss and wondered — many in stark fear — what on earth to do with their money.

This hour, On Point: Financial planners give financial advice on surviving the storm.

You can join the conversation. Have you dared to peek at your portfolio? How’s it look? Are you buying? Selling? Taking a deep breath? What’s your question for the experts?

Guests:

Joining us from Newton, Mass., is Alicia Munnell. She is a professor at Boston College’s Carroll School of Management and director of the Center for Retirement Research. She was a member of the President’s Council of Economic Advisors from 1995-1997 and was assistant secretary of the treasury for economic policy from 1993-1995. Prior to that, she spent 20 years at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston.

Joining us from Denver, Colo., is Susie Johnston. She’s a certified financial planner and registered investment advisor and owns Cherry Hills Investment Advisors, an independent firm.

Joining us from Washington is Robert Frick, senior editor for Kiplinger’s Personal Finance. He leads the magazine’s Rewards section and writes about investments.

More links:

“10 ways to protect your money now” — MSN Money and The Wall Street Journal offer a list of things you can do now, from “Check that your bank accounts are federally insured,” to “Don’t panic.”

“How to Cope With the Financial Crisis” — tips from Kiplinger’s on protecting your portfolio and safeguarding your accounts.

“Is It Safe To Get Back Into Stocks?” — CNBC on the outlook for stocks after a tumultuous week, and more uncertainty ahead.

 
  • Laurie

    I hope your guests will touch on the impact the current crisis will have on the real estate market, both immediately and over the next few years.

  • JP

    NOBODY is talking about the fact that the people fixing this fin. crisis are the same people who arew to blame….”Commissa” Paulson comes from Goldman Sachs…and he’s helping out his old banking buddy’s while the rest of us suffer….not enough people in the USA know enough about about the financial system here…some can’t even balance tyheir own checkbooks….so, the Treasury can have their way along with the ruling elite!!!!

  • http://heidithorsen.com Heidi

    Does anyone else think the media is doing a disservice to the public by repeating the mantra, “don’t sell, stay invested for the long-term”? I did that after the 2000 downturn and it took 6 years for the DJIA to recover those losses. This time around, I bucked the conventional wisdom and turned my portfolio to cash at the start of the volatility last fall. I’ve been making around 3% interest while most of my friends have suffered double-digit declines. I’ll wait until the next bull market before investing again.

    Or does the media believe that most Americans are too dumb and complacent to pay attention to the markets at all, and so they really are better off taking their losses and waiting for the recovery while staying invested than to risk keeping their money in cash for the rest of their lives since they’ll “forget” to reinvest when the market turns around?

    I just don’t understand why the media insists that it’s a good idea to sit back and lose money.

  • Brian

    The media needs to remember that more than 50% of the country does not own stocks, money-markets or mutual funds. The “economy” is often used by the media in a way that focuses on the lives of the wealthy and near wealthy and ignores the experiences and lives of the poor.

    The media also often uses the “market” in a way that implies neutrality and democracy. The market is not neutral and is not democratic.

    The deregulation of the financial sector that is known as the “casino economy” because of the explosion in derivatives and financial speculation has caused this crisis but more importantly it has widened the gap between rich and poor and encouraged predatory lending and other unethical and criminal behaviors.

    However, it would be wrong to simply just find individuals to blame. Individual criminality should be held accountable, but it is the system that is truly corrupt and immoral.

    Unproductive investments and the casino economy is not healthy for any society and should not be allowed for the lives of struggling people are harmed.

  • Katy

    Help-

    what about those of us facing college tuitions right now?

    We have saved carefully all of these years, but cashing out now seems dumb–our savings are just not worth as much as they were, but tuition is due!

    Katy

  • Stacy

    I’m really tired of the answer to economic troubles for the masses of us who aren’t in the top income bracket being “Just work longer, don’t retire.” I’m increasingly frustrated at the expanding gulf between the wealthy and everyone else, especially when their wealth is borne on the backs of the rest of us.

  • Erin

    How much savings is necessary? How much should I have squirreled away? Is there a formula your guests could offer?

  • Andra English

    My husband is a retired Army Colonel, I have a son active duty Lt. Col. I have 2 military widow friends with deceased husbands who did NOT buy into the Survivor Benefit Plan – and they have been really hurting financially. To those debating this plan – DO IT! Also – the DOD is trying to “buy out” retirement plans of those about to retire – I’m not sure of the details, but if soldiers accept these buyouts they are losing long-term benefits “big time”. My son is having to counsel against it..

  • Lurker

    The talking heads keep saying that this is the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. They are right and it will get worse (it’s only been a year so far).

    What are some safe investments?

    Live on less.
    Pay off your debts.
    Take care of your health.
    T-bills if the US government doesn’t bail out everyone.
    Gold if they do.
    Avoid the stock market until the things calm down.

  • Jeanne

    Does your guest really think we believe that we can trust in the stock market? I opted out of 401K 3 years ago because I did not trust the stock market. Why? Because I was paying attention and saw this coming. Instead, I put all my resources in to eliminating as much debt as I could and worked toward paying off my mortgage. It is a good thing I did as I was laid off due to the economic fall out as a result of the fiscal irresponsibility of the bankers and government. The unemployment in my area is over 6% in my area and continues to grow. I was out of work for a year and not only do I find myself in a different “career” just to get work, but even at that, it is not sufficient. Inflation, rising fuel costs, rising property tax and rising hazard insurance. All of this has depleted my savings, but I have not missed one payment. I did not purchase more house than I can afford, but as a result of the greed and corruption on wall street and in government for the benefit of the elite …. our middle class income (70k) per year is just enough to get, never mind save!!! How can we prepare for retirement when our salaries continue to decrease and the cost of living continues to increase?

  • L Linden

    I think the essential question to ask here, of any proposed solution, is will it help create more real equity – will it help create more real wealth – and thus move toward paying off current debts and eventually improving the lots of the debtor nation? The current proposed solution is attempting to solve a debt crisis by creating more debt – the casino “solution”… and who wins at the casino?

  • frank

    If you want to retire and save money at the same time, move out of the country to someplace like Costa Rica, Mexico, and particularly Panama. You’ll have all the golf courses, television shows, supermarkets, medical care and expatriot communities you can wish for. And the cost of living is half of what it would be in the retirement communities in Florida, Arizona or anywhere else.
    And in Panama, the dollar is the currency; there are no hurricanes and loads of Panamanians speak English.
    And the government is stable.
    Did I mention the weather, the biodiversity, and the beauty?

  • Stan Johnson

    Call-in- Listener “Mark” purports to be “well-informed” but his comments illustrate not only his ignorance but also the ignorance of today’s panelists.

    Mark voiced a desire to use funds in a Traditional IRA
    to invest according to more liberal guidelines of ROTH IRA’s, etc.

    A properly informed advisor should be able to tell Mark that he can convert his “Traditional IRA” accounts to Roth IRAs at virtually any time subject to the condation that his income must be less than $100,000 in the year of his conversion. Of course, the Roth IRA-converter must pay income taxes on the amount of the converted account but the the IRA money earned a tax deduction at the time of deposit and the IRA funds have never been subjected to income taxation. The income tax “piper” must eventually be paid. Better, to pay the tax earlier that wait until the IRA funds grow even more when they will be subject to greater taxation.

  • M@gnolia

    Jeanne and Heidi sound like smart cookies–wish I’d had their foresight. But what is astonishing to me is how extraordinarily UNHELPFUL the guests’ comments are. It’s the mantra of Save. Diversify. Leave your money where it is. But the economy has been weak for years. People who aren’t unemployed are underemployed, stuck in contract work, not getting enough hours to get benefits. Saving isn’t the issue. Making enough to pay the mortgage and keep food on the table is the issue.

    But look at the contrast. While the middle class plugs along, following the rules–we can’t move or touch our own money even while we watch ourselves losing ground every day– the boys on Wall Street wrote new rules for themselves every day. There better be something in this bailout for the middle class cuz right now it just looks like the repeal of Glass-Stegall ushered in a party–and now they’re sticking US with the bill.

  • Peter Nelson

    I’ve been making around 3% interest while most of my friends have suffered double-digit declines

    Which really means you’ve been losing money. On August 29th the Commerce Department reported that inflation over the last 12 months was 4.5%.
    On top of that you’re taxed on the nominal gain, not on the inflation-adjusted gain, which means that after taxes your losses are even greater.

    The media needs to remember that more than 50% of the country does not own stocks, money-markets or mutual funds. The “economy” is often used by the media in a way that focuses on the lives of the wealthy and near wealthy and ignores the experiences and lives of the poor.

    “The economy” means the economy – it’s not just a signifier for stocks and bonds. The current crisis in the financial marksts is making it very hard for businesses to finance their operations and plenty of ordinary people with no investments stand to lose their jobs if it’s not fixed.

  • Erin O’Donnell

    I really appreciate the discussion that is happening nationally and on this show regarding how to weather this storm. When I think about the comparisons to the Great Depression, I have to wonder if this level of discourse in such a publicly accessible way, which was not available to the everyday Joe then, has had an effect on the current situation that has helped to prevent history from repeating itself (not to oversimplfy). I suppose an argument can be made for a positive or a negative reaction to such widespread information, but I feel it has to be more of a positive one. I know this is off topic, but I just wanted to express appreciation and share a thought. It doesn’t need to be posted.

  • Pearl

    The big investment banks and Wall Street really should have known better and it is so unfair for the tax payers to bail out their irresponsible lending and borrowing. I have known at least 3 girls who graduated from top universities were recruited by these big investment banks to be hedge fund managers even though their degree were not related business or economic. One of them majors in political science, one majors in biology and one majors in psychology. Fresh out of college, these 22-year old kids were offered an annual salary of 250K to start. If the entry level jobs at those investment banks earn 250K, I wonder how much the higher level people were earning? The government should put in the condition that the high paying executives should use part of their salary to help this bail out, too, since they were the one who made all these irresponsible trades and they were the ones who benefited by the big bonuses in previous years.

    All these bail out will add to the US deficit, meaning more burden for the future generations. Can U.S. government really afford it with two wars going on with Afghanistan and Iraq?

  • Howard

    Follow the buck. The financial advisors who claim to have your interests at heart are earning healthy fees from your investments. They’re not in it “with” you; they are making a percentage whether you win or lose. Of course they want you to “stay in there.” My advice: fire youre advisor and open a discount brokerage account and buy index funds once this mess clears up… or, if you’re gutsy, take advantage of the low prices and buy index funds and ETFs now.

  • Peter Nelson

    The big investment banks and Wall Street really should have known better and it is so unfair for the tax payers to bail out their irresponsible lending and borrowing.

    . . . (deletia). . .

    All these bail out will add to the US deficit, meaning more burden for the future generations. Can U.S. government really afford it with two wars going on with Afghanistan and Iraq?

    Of course we cannot afford it!! Although we must not lose sight of the fact that an equal contributor to this problem was the millions of irresponsible home buyers who insisted on taking out insane mortages and otherwise behaving with just as much recklessness and irresponsibility as the investment bankers. The investment bankers were playing with more money, but this is balanced by the far greater number of reckless peons.

    As someone who has spent his entire life preaching and practicing fiscal conservatism I am livid that my fellow citizens, the government, and the investment industry have all behaved in ways that are morally and fiscally indefensible. Luckily my house is nearly paid-off and I have a fat rainy-day fund and other resources that should allow me to ride this out with a roof over my head and food in my belly. But my golden years will be considerably less golden thanks to our felklow citizens at various points on the socioeconomic scale.

  • Peter Nelson

    My advice: fire youre advisor and open a discount brokerage account and buy index funds once this mess clears up… or, if you’re gutsy, take advantage of the low prices and buy index funds and ETFs now.

    You don’t need a brokerage account to buy index funds.

    And anyway, if we are heading into the economic cosmic toilet that it looks like, your index funds will lose half their value in the next year or two.

    TIPS and Series I Savings Bonds may be your best bet – their after-inflation yield is close to zero (literally zero for Series I) but your principle is probably safe.

    The most critical question is which way inflation will go. Plausible arguments can be made for either very-low to deflation, OR very high inflation. I have a large retirement portfolio of stocks, bonds and Treasuries and other assets. I’ve roughly divided it into half that will do well in a high-inflation scenario and half that will do well in a low-inflation/deflation scenario. I will probably lose half my wealth but I don’t know which half.

  • Jim

    How does this idea sound to beat inflation and negative returns on my 401k? Why don’t I take out a personal loan, which my plan charges $50, and I pay off my 5.25% car loan? Didn’t I just earn over 5% on that $10k? It sounds too simple. Am I thinking straight?

  • Howard

    The big investment banks and Wall Street ARE the government. They ARE the regulators. Where did Henry Paulson make his money? Where did Robert Rubin make his money? Wall Street. Do you really expect Charles Rangle and Ted Stevens to give a &*(! about your investments? The corruption is huge. These are truly criminals who create regulations and laws designed specifically to fatten their wallets. They steal so much that they ultimately get lazy and sometimes they get caught. Now, Congress and the Administration posture reform during a tight election – creating a “new deal” over A WEEKEND. Where were they while this was building steam? It’s infuriating. Where Franklin Roosevelt when you need him?

  • Peter Nelson

    How does this idea sound to beat inflation and negative returns on my 401k? Why don’t I take out a personal loan, which my plan charges $50, and I pay off my 5.25% car loan? Didn’t I just earn over 5% on that $10k?

    It depends on what the inflation rate is over the period you’re paying back the loan you made from your 401(k).

    Suppose for the sake of discussion the inflation rate is 10% and you pay back the 401(k) loan in a lump sum at the end of one year. In that case that bolus of money would be worth 10% less so you certainly wouldn’t have beat inflation with it. It also suggests you would have missed an opportunity to pay back your loan in cheaper dollars.

    So, again, I thing the devil is in the details – you need to do the math for your particular circumstances and expectations.

  • Peter Nelson

    These are truly criminals who create regulations and laws designed specifically to fatten their wallets.

    That’s pure hyperbole. The laws in question are all made in public – where were you when they were being made? Lifting of Glass-Steagall provided many benefits – I can use my ATM card all over the country; I can have companion investment accounts to my checking accounts, draw checks on my brokerage accounts, etc. I find the convenience and flexibility of the post-G.S. age to be preferable to the old days by far. Furthermore, it was the liberals and progressives who wanted to make homeownership accessible to the masses by lowering mortgage standards, so it’s not just rich fat cats; it’s do-gooders.

    Where were they while this was building steam? It’s infuriating. Where Franklin Roosevelt when you need him?

    As I asked above, where were YOU when it was building steam? FDR didn’t exist in a vacuum – he had the support of a large, progressive labor movement. This situation is not the result of rich fat cats taking all the power; it’s a result of your fellow citizens not only abdicating all the power by failing to take any interest in politics or fiscal policy, but also of materially contributing to the problem by running up reckless amounts of debt in their own lives and tolerating it in their government.

  • Roswell

    Tom, This was a very weak panel. Their insights were elementary. The second hour is getting drab. You need to put some punch in the second half of your show. Today, 9/23, your second hour guest, the philosopher, was all over the place. Again, a weak show. Why not just invite Jack in once a week, give him a full hour and we would all benefit from such a format. Or, give Jack the last 15 minutes of each day and let him put daily events in some kind of order. Your show is the best in the business. Roswell

  • david r. feigin

    Tom-
    Advice such as: “work longer, save” is not the type of insightful information I expect to hear on your program.
    Your listeners deserve more sophisticated speakers.

  • Alex

    What is happening with the municipal bond funds? Mine has been going down since the beginning of the year. I thought my money would be safe there…

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